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Originally posted by dawg-man:
I would turn to the official scorer and say " no run scored ". I am sure I would have to explain to the coach why but its pretty simple to explain if he did not touch the plate.


No. A missed base is a missed base...first, second, third or home. It becomes an appeal play. The run is scored unless properly appealed.
Just for the sake of arguing, would we not be giving a run to the offense whenwe know the player did not score. I thought it was our job to make sure we get things right and if we know he did not touch the plate then why say score that run and then when the defense appeals we take it off and will surely have an argument after you do that. I can see your point but I see mine as well. You guys have been doing this longer than I and I love looking and learning from you.
The runner is considered to have "acquired" the base when he passes it, whether or not he touches it. It is up to the defense to notice and properly appeal the baserunning error.

The same principle applies when the batter hits a ground ball and beats the throw to 1st but misses the base. The proper mechanic is to call him safe, because he IS safe unless and until the miss is appealed. Any other mechanic (including doing nothing) tips off the defense that the base was missed.
quote:
Originally posted by dawg-man:
Just for the sake of arguing, would we not be giving a run to the offense whenwe know the player did not score. I thought it was our job to make sure we get things right and if we know he did not touch the plate then why say score that run and then when the defense appeals we take it off and will surely have an argument after you do that. I can see your point but I see mine as well. You guys have been doing this longer than I and I love looking and learning from you.


It is far better to have an arguement with a coach who does not know the rules, than to have a protest filed by the offensive coach who does know the rules...

Do not assist the defense...it is their responsibilty to know the base was touched....if not they can appeal...here is where Dash nails it...

"The proper mechanic is to call him safe, because he IS safe unless and until the miss is appealed. Any other mechanic (including doing nothing) tips off the defense that the base was missed."
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Originally posted by dawg-man:
I thought it was our job to make sure we get things right...


It is. And what is right is to recognize that a missed base sets up an appeal situation. That is the tradition AND the rule.

Your version of what is right would ignore the rule book, a dangerous habit to get in.

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