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Hi All,

Long time lurker, first post.

My 13 year old son has been doing long toss and a little pitching since the conclusion of the season. He has been working on his change up and 2 seam fastball in particular.

In the past he has gotten very little movement on the two seam. Anyway, he has been experimenting with it and has found something that seems to work. He takes his middle finger and knuckles it on top of the ball and then throws it with his normal two seam motion. The ball looks like a nice juicy fastball as it comes in, then as it hits the plate, the ball drops. The speed is slightly slower than his 4 seam fastball and the break is fairly sharp. It is a repeatable pitch for him.

He does throw a knuckle curve, but, the movement on that is less sharp, and the speed is significantly less.

He says he uses the same two seam arm mechanics. I can't watch the mechanics and catch the ball at the same time, so I don't know for sure if he is changing what he does with his arm.

Question: What is this? A two seam? A variation on the knuckle curve? Most importantly, is this safe for him to throw? He wants to use it in fall ball when he gets up on a batter.

Thanks for your help.
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Sounds like a kid’s version of a splitter. From the sounds of it should be a safe pitch to throw. (as opposed to a splitter) He should mess around with moving his fingers on each side of the ball and see what kind of movement he can induce with his regular 2 seemer.

Get a kid to catch him so you can watch more closly. Also easier on the shins Smile
Thanks.

His regular two seam doesn't move much side to side. If he does get it to move it also tends to drop. When he puts the middle knuckle up the drop is more pronounced and does so on a more consistent basis.

It would make sense that it is similar to a splitter... he has big hands and some long fingers.

At least this pitch is better than the bunny pitch he invented at age 10... You know, make a bunny with index and middle finger up in the air and try and throw the pitch. The coach promised to sit him on the bench if he threw it in a game. Smile

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