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have a hard time believing someone could last 6 years without throwing strikes, no matter how hard they threw


Ok maybe I need to clarify better. When I mean no strikes, I mean not consistent with strikes. Not being able to get the big strikes to control the game. Now the next question, if you spend 500k on a kid how long do you let him play? IMO, I drop 500k he can go years before I quit on him or maybe see if I can transform him into relief or a closer.

I agree with the above posts. This pitcher will half to learn to pitch. His veloicty may have gotten him the signing bonus but he will have to develop. 96-97 wont help him without a 2nd pitch to mix speeds. Any .150 major leaguer can hit a fastball if thats all he is seeing :P
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Maddux hasn't touched 90 in a game in 5 years (but in his bullpens he will hit 92-93) and he says he doesn't need to hit 93 in a game. The key is change of speeds.



That guy is just a master of the game. He is very precise and he moves the strike zone. lol We hated him here in Houston. Just made Stros look silly.
So here's the big question. Which would you rather have/be? The guy who throws 95+ but struggles with accuracy and can't develop another pitch or two, or the guy who throws 85-maybe 90 but has 4-5 pitches he can throw whenever, wherever? I guess it's the difference between potential, and ability at that time.

note: both pitchers have the same build and any other "x-factor"
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So here's the big question. Which would you rather have/be? The guy who throws 95+ but struggles with accuracy and can't develop another pitch or two, or the guy who throws 85-maybe 90 but has 4-5 pitches he can throw whenever, wherever? I guess it's the difference between potential, and ability at that time.

note: both pitchers have the same build and any other "x-factor"


I'm not a scout (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express in CA) but the first pitcher is going to get every opportunity to succeed and will be a top 5 round draft pick. The second pitcher may or may not even get drafted. BTW, my son is in the second pitcher category. Wink
FrankF-
I'd sadly have to agree with you. Will there ever be a day when results matter more than potential? I'm not saying the 6ft 6in 94mph pitcher who can throw it in the ocean shouldn't get looked at---he should, but a proven winner with solid stuff should get a chance. I definately fall into the second category (I don't even throw that hard), and all I'm asking for is a chance. We (non-overdominating pitchers) need to prove it if/when we get the chance.
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So here's the big question. Which would you rather have/be? The guy who throws 95+ but struggles with accuracy and can't develop another pitch or two, or the guy who throws 85-maybe 90 but has 4-5 pitches he can throw whenever, wherever? I guess it's the difference between potential, and ability at that time.

note: both pitchers have the same build and any other "x-factor"


I would rather be the 6'5" guy that throws 93, throws strikes, has a good change and nice breaking ball.

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