Who should call it ???

As long as he's been that way all year, then he's right on.
This is BU's call all the way.
He won't make a call unless, he has one to make.

Now, you say "BU was behind the pitchers mound". Do you mean that's where he started or where he was when he made the call?

Umpires call what they see, if he indeed was behind the mound, then he may simply have missed it because of the distance/angle. Regardless, he saw what he saw and made "his" call.

You had your view and saw what you saw, could anyone convince you to change your mind?

Exactly.

Had you gone to BU, perhaps he could have been convinced that he may have overlooked something.

Something like; "sir, here's what I saw, I could clearly see the runners foot several inches from the base when the play was over. Would you mind asking your partner, because I'm sure he had the same view I did". Or something similarly civil.

And what if you hear; "yes I saw the foot off the bag, but because of lack of control by
F5 on the bobble, the runner got his foot in, and is safe. But thank you for asking, play on".
Okay, his answer in short is "nope, I had that all the way".
Play on, it's over.

Or, and don't count on it, unless your plea is a good one. Say he goes for help. He'd go to his partner explain what he saw, perhaps your opinion, and ask "is there anything I didn't see there"?

HP say's, "I saw the whole play, except I could not see R2's foot, so, no, I don't have anything to add". It's over, play on.

Never "Time, Blue, (while flailing towards PU) can I get some help on that ridiculas call"? P.s. I am not insinuating anything here about anyone, just comparison only.

After time out has been granted, always go to the umpire that made the call, simply state your case and accept the response.

The PU stated, "that's his call", did you enquire of the BU?

I agree, it's the BU's call all the way. The only way the PU is going to have anything is if the ball came loose and the BU didn't see it. Even if he has a different look, he is going to stay out of it. It is no different than a slide play at the plate. That would be the PU's call and the BU would nothing to say about it. It isn't arrogance or a desire to not get it right, it's simply the way it has to be. If umpires allowed you to shop calls, nothing would ever get done.

Base ump was directly behind the pitcher and yes I would say a bad angle. My coach did approach BU (civil) and then went to PU. At alot of my games this year the plate ump took third so I guess that is why I ask who's call it is.

Would I be right thinking that some umps just agree on this before the game?

I have yet to see an ump on appeal even say he saw a play. I didn't see it, thats his call. They never try to get together and talk it over to see if they did get it right.

Hey, Thats Baseball....

I see this play as similar to a play at first when the BU asks the HP "did he have the bag?"
In this situation I do have a problem with the BU for not HUSTLING on the play ...in my opinion you have to hustle on every play and be in the best proper position possible.

Although there are times when the PU will rotate to 3rd, this situation is not one of them. Any time there is an R2, BU should be in the C - on a line from the plate tangent to the mound (3rd base side), and half-way between the rubber and 2nd base.

With no R3, when F1 is committed to pitch, BU should peek over his right shoulder to see if R2 is stealing. If the runner is going, BU should bust it toward the middle of the 3rd to home baseline to get an angle on the play (running toward 3rd will just give you a good look at a$$es and elbows).

From your description, it sounds like BU was out of position to begin with, and did not move to improve after the steal attempt. Bad/lazy umpiring.

The manager has every right to ask BU what he saw on the play, and to ask him to get help from the PU. He has NO right to go to the PU, and PU should not entertain any discussion at all.

As noted above...this is the BU call on this play.....it does sound from your description that he was out of position.....

By rule no umpire can over rule another.....especially on a judgment call....we can however provide information to the calling umpire IF requested......If after hearing that information the calling umpire decides differently, then he can overturn his own call......

You can not appeal judgment calls....Your coach should know this........He can, as Dash states, go to the base umpire and ask that he get help from the plate umpire........