Who to Report Pitching Abuse???

If this was my kid---I would definitely take control of the situation . No one would abuse my kids arm and end his career without even a thought. What would you do if you walked by a parent beating their child on the street? would you not step in and defuse the situation? And so if a stranger is abusing your kid or another person's kid would you not protect that child if you could? There are coaches out there that could care less about anything but winning---at all cost. If we don't protect our children who will? That kind of coach has no place on the baseball field!

How does the normal fan know sitting in the stands what pitches are thrown ?--which was a slider ?--which was a curve ?--Are you keeping pitch counts ?


and who are you going to report this too? Are you implying the police and/or child abuse authorities?


Better yet where are the poarents in all of this?

Downandout--You have a lot of convoluted info here

that is an extremely excessive workload on a young arm. but you probably won't get very far with your complaint.

having a former mlb pitcher for a father-in-law as well as having a son go through an elbow injury and 18 months of rehab, our family is educated regarding pitch counts, breaking balls, days of rest, off day programs, etc. our hs coaches old philosophy was that you had to break arms down in order to rebuild them. he wasn't trying to hurt anybody, he just thought that's what you did.

i also contacted the head of baseball at the ihsaa to inquire about instituting stricter pitch limits and was told that there has never been a need for limits. i've watched kid after kid in our state end up having shoulder or elbow surgery at the end of the season. and if a school honored the pitch limits, he could still have a kid throw curve after curve and be within the limits.

on a side note, there have been lawsuits filed against coaches and schools, two important ones were dismissed because they said the coach wasn't negligent because he didn't know any better. it will likely take someone winning their lawsuit for the rules to change.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
How does the normal fan know sitting in the stands what pitches are thrown ?--which was a slider ?--which was a curve ?--Are you keeping pitch counts ?

agree tr....for instance, my sons main pitch is a one seam fastball that looks like a slider....it puts no additional stress on his arm, but moves like a breaking ball.

It sounds like there's a problem here even if we assume that some mistakes are being made in figuring out which pitches are actually being thrown. If a parent thinks that there is a real risk to his son's arm then he needs to say something to the coach, with the understanding that it may mean his son is removed from the rotation or he needs to pull his son off the team if he's that certain it is going to cause arm damage.

L8 breaking,
Have you taken stop action video to see if he's throwing a true cutter or if he's throwing a slider with that grip? How do you know?

There seems to be way too much specific data being shared with downandout for this to be considered a completly factual scenario. Not that there are not coaches that "abuse" HS arms, but, IMO, for a fan/parent to sit in the crowd and gather this consise data strikes me as a touch of fiction and someone looking for an outcry from members on this board.

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Originally posted by rz1:
There seems to be way too much specific data being shared with downandout for this to be considered a completly factual scenario. Not that there are not coaches that "abuse" HS arms, but, IMO, for a fan/parent to sit in the crowd and gather this consise data strikes me as a touch of fiction and someone looking for an outcry from members on this board.

I thought it. You said it. Imagine, not pitching to a team's strength!

It's obvious that this parent has a concern and is looking for advice on how to handle the situation. TRhits approach is not helpful. Next question should be has downandout discussed the concern with his son and has he confirmed his concerns with other parents. What is the other parents input on the matter? Does not serve any purpose to assume that downandout doesn't know his tuchos from a potato.

If a parent expresses a concern here he shouldn't be attacked for it.
JMO

BBkaze

Sorry you feel that way---how do you ascertain that my approach is not helpful?

This is kind of the same problem I'm having. I'm trying to figure out what to do if I speak with a coach about my concerns I'm afraid he wont play but if I dont his arm could be perm. injured. My son is a freshman and was trowing a curveball the way he was taught by another coach. His H.S. coaches want him to throw it diffrent. When he pitched it their way last night his arm is killing him under his bicept where its never hurt bebore. Maybe it could be he just hasnt used that muscle much? I dont know much about it. Is there any approach to take with the coach and not offend him?