I've watched a lot of college football over the years and never seen anything that approaches the non football adulation Tebow receives from the media. Here's a religious statement for you. Thank God it's over.quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
Any QB that starts for one of the top programs in the country for 4 years will get over exposed. The same is true for McCoy at Texas. Personally, I never get tired of hearing even the same good stories about good kids like Tebow and McCoy. Did I cheer against McCoy last night against my Husker, yeah...a little. But these two kids are high quality kids that will do just as well with some adversity thrown their way. Maybe they are NFL QBs, probably not. IMO, these are two quality individuals that are having a positive impact on their teammates, fans and society. Hard to knock that.
When Tebow puts on the helmet he's a football player not a missionary. There are plenty of people who feel he's pushing religion with his scripture messages. Personally I find religion to be personal. I don't need the media giving the scripture lesson Tebow has on his eye black.quote:If honoring God with his eye black is some sort of gimmick...what is it? Bringing attention to God's glory and goodness?
quote:Originally posted by puma1:
It is incomprehendable to me that anyoe would have ill feelings toward a kid like Tebow. Tales of the good deeds of a fine young man never get old to me.If honoring God with his eye black is some sort of gimmick...what is it? Bringing attention to God's glory and goodness? What a horrible thing that is. He spends his off season taking care of 3rd world children instead of robbing convenience stores and clubbing. Oh No! It may get old to some, but it continues to be encouraging to me. There is always room in our world for goodness.
We won't hear about Harper every week until he makes the majors, assuming he makes it. College football is another animal. It's four years of media exposure before turning pro. Often what makes a successful college football player doesn't translate into a successful NFL player.quote:Maybe they're also part of the "Bryce Harper" won't make it crowd.
to kind of take the tread back to where it started, the BCS came out just a little while ago.
Alabama vs Texas for National Title
agree or disagree
Boise State vs TCU
Why are these two facing each other, does the BCS fear a big name school might get knock-off by these guys?
Alabama vs Texas for National Title
agree or disagree
Boise State vs TCU
Why are these two facing each other, does the BCS fear a big name school might get knock-off by these guys?
I can only speak for myself and I ask you all where does it say I wish ill or hate Tebow--
TPM
I am tired of you dictating to people, in this case yours truly, what they can say and cannot say on this site---it continues to amaze me that you can say what you want but others cannot--are we not expressing opinions here--in some circles it is called debate
And yes !!! I standby my view of Tebows parents facial look---I did not see hurt--I saw disappointment and to me that means the loss of monies in terms of his draft spot--I hear now, and this is from pro football experts not me, that he may not be drafted until the 3rd round or maybe later.
Natural
Nice to see a good adversary return--always enjoy debating you and the Texas attitude
TPM
I am tired of you dictating to people, in this case yours truly, what they can say and cannot say on this site---it continues to amaze me that you can say what you want but others cannot--are we not expressing opinions here--in some circles it is called debate
And yes !!! I standby my view of Tebows parents facial look---I did not see hurt--I saw disappointment and to me that means the loss of monies in terms of his draft spot--I hear now, and this is from pro football experts not me, that he may not be drafted until the 3rd round or maybe later.
Natural
Nice to see a good adversary return--always enjoy debating you and the Texas attitude
too old
Gotta like Bama over the Horns
as for Boise State and TCU I think that is a great matchup of two undefeated teams
I also like Cincy's chances against the Gators
Gotta like Bama over the Horns
as for Boise State and TCU I think that is a great matchup of two undefeated teams
I also like Cincy's chances against the Gators
I don't understand why TCU is pitted against #6 Boise State rather than #3 Cinci or #5 Florida. A disappointing match-up, especially since TCU played Boise State last year in a bowl game (and beat them).
quote:Originally posted by Infield08:
I don't understand why TCU is pitted against #6 Boise State rather than #3 Cinci or #5 Florida. A disappointing match-up, especially since TCU played Boise State last year in a bowl game (and beat them).
It's just the BCS way of throwing a bone to the "little guy" without risking another loss for the "big boys". They already resent that non auto qualifying schools get to participate.
The BCS doesn't select the match ups....the bowls select their own teams in their "draft" sequence.
Sugar picked Florida
Fiesta picked TCU
Orange picked Iowa
Sugar picked Cincy
Fiesta took BSU
Rose Bowl had their two teams because of the Pac 10/Big 10 tie ins. And, the Orange bowl had their tie in with Georgia Tech.
Sugar picked Florida
Fiesta picked TCU
Orange picked Iowa
Sugar picked Cincy
Fiesta took BSU
Rose Bowl had their two teams because of the Pac 10/Big 10 tie ins. And, the Orange bowl had their tie in with Georgia Tech.
I'm anxiously awaiting the 'bama game of course. However, that sugar bowl will be one great matchup!! I can't wait.... and I don't even claim to be a football fan!! 
I think those are some pretty good matchups but it's still a load of garbage. TCU and BSU should not be playing each other. Both are bigging to play bigger teams in nonconference games but the big dogs won't play them.
College football is nothing but a monopoly and it's going to take something drastic to make a change. The powers that be keep telling TCU, BSU and the rest of the smaller conferences to play tougher nonconference games to be considered for National Championship but nobody will play them. So right now I would estimate 2/3 of every college football team is eliminated from contention for a National Championship. It's not that way in other sports. The worst team in the worst conference in basketball and baseball have a chance to win the NC. Granted it's unlikely but the chance is still there. BSU who has proven they can play and deserve a chance starts the season off already out of contention. So why play the season?
I think it was ESPN the Magazine I read where the guy in charge of the BCS will not even entertain the idea of playoff because the way the set up now is so many teams get to end their season on a high note with a bowl win. He basically made it sound like the "everybody gets a trophy" mentality. He even brought up how it would be impossible to have one due to final exam schedules. If that's the case then does DIAA, DII, DIII not give finals or that academics are not important to them? They have a more limited budget for traveling, tutors and anything else needed to make playoffs work. I'm going to try and find a link to the article.
I don't care who wins between 'Bama and Texas because they haven't earned the NC because there are 6 deserving teams (BSU, TCU, Cincy, Texas, 'Bama, Florida) to play for the NC but 3 had no chance at the start of the season. Plus why not give someone like Pitt a chance in a tournament? If it wasn't for a tournament Freshno St would not have been NC in baseball a couple of years ago. Every team had a chance to beat Fresno St but they failed. To me that says they earned their title - unlike how they do it in CFB.
College football is nothing but a monopoly and it's going to take something drastic to make a change. The powers that be keep telling TCU, BSU and the rest of the smaller conferences to play tougher nonconference games to be considered for National Championship but nobody will play them. So right now I would estimate 2/3 of every college football team is eliminated from contention for a National Championship. It's not that way in other sports. The worst team in the worst conference in basketball and baseball have a chance to win the NC. Granted it's unlikely but the chance is still there. BSU who has proven they can play and deserve a chance starts the season off already out of contention. So why play the season?
I think it was ESPN the Magazine I read where the guy in charge of the BCS will not even entertain the idea of playoff because the way the set up now is so many teams get to end their season on a high note with a bowl win. He basically made it sound like the "everybody gets a trophy" mentality. He even brought up how it would be impossible to have one due to final exam schedules. If that's the case then does DIAA, DII, DIII not give finals or that academics are not important to them? They have a more limited budget for traveling, tutors and anything else needed to make playoffs work. I'm going to try and find a link to the article.
I don't care who wins between 'Bama and Texas because they haven't earned the NC because there are 6 deserving teams (BSU, TCU, Cincy, Texas, 'Bama, Florida) to play for the NC but 3 had no chance at the start of the season. Plus why not give someone like Pitt a chance in a tournament? If it wasn't for a tournament Freshno St would not have been NC in baseball a couple of years ago. Every team had a chance to beat Fresno St but they failed. To me that says they earned their title - unlike how they do it in CFB.
quote:Originally posted by coach2709:
College football is nothing but a monopoly and it's going to take something drastic to make a change.
You're exactly right. It's all about the money. And money will be the only drastic thing that will make it change. In baseball, there's over a month between the end of the regular season and the end of the CWS. In football, there's about a month between the end of the regular season and when the BCS game takes place. They could easily get a 16 team playoff done if they wanted to...they just don't want to and it does screw the Boise's and TCU's of the world. They are just playing nice and taking the hush money.
The money used to be shared across the board. Then D1 shoved the D1-AA schools out of the way. Then the BCS schools shoved the rest of the D1 schools out of the way. It's about a handful of conferences hording the tv money. When Notre Dame worked their own deal with NBC, the rest of college football should have shut them out of the BCS bowl process. However, lately Notre Dame has done a good job of shutting themselves out on the field. Karma?
Natural
READ THIS NAtURAL !!!!111
This is where you are off base---good leaders off the field do not necessarily make good leaders on the field and vice versa
READ THIS NAtURAL !!!!111
This is where you are off base---good leaders off the field do not necessarily make good leaders on the field and vice versa
You're a joke.
All of our sons will eventually play their final college games, or like Tebow some other big game near the end of their careers. Some will end in joy, others in disappointment. When we watch those final games what will we be thinking? Most of us will probably feel some degree of sadness, especially if the games end in disappointment for our kids. This is the natural emotion we would expect from most, if not all, parents in such a situation.
BUT TRHit's looks at Tebow's parents' disappointment and ASSUMES that it can ONLY be about money. He assumes their disappointment is motivated by greed. WHY? Does he know them? I doubt it. Is he just suspicious of them? Jealous of them? Was he thinking about money when his kids played their final games? I honestly do not know. BUT, he doesn't know what Tebow's parents were thinking either. His assigning other motives to their disappointment says more about him than it does them.
I REALLY hate to agree with TPM. But she's right on this one.
BUT TRHit's looks at Tebow's parents' disappointment and ASSUMES that it can ONLY be about money. He assumes their disappointment is motivated by greed. WHY? Does he know them? I doubt it. Is he just suspicious of them? Jealous of them? Was he thinking about money when his kids played their final games? I honestly do not know. BUT, he doesn't know what Tebow's parents were thinking either. His assigning other motives to their disappointment says more about him than it does them.
I REALLY hate to agree with TPM. But she's right on this one.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
I can only speak for myself and I ask you all where does it say I wish ill or hate Tebow--
TPM
I am tired of you dictating to people, in this case yours truly, what they can say and cannot say on this site---it continues to amaze me that you can say what you want but others cannot--are we not expressing opinions here--in some circles it is called debate
And yes !!! I standby my view of Tebows parents facial look---I did not see hurt--I saw disappointment and to me that means the loss of monies in terms of his draft spot--I hear now, and this is from pro football experts not me, that he may not be drafted until the 3rd round or maybe later.
Natural
Nice to see a good adversary return--always enjoy debating you and the Texas attitude
MTH
You use the word ASSUME a lot when posting about me--- I find that interesting when you assume a lot about me
Here are some facts about me--
Money did not enter into my sons baseball--in fact I put the word out prior to the draft that he was going to college--HE NEEDED GO TO COLLEGE--do not draft him
I am not jealous of anyone or anything--I am who I am and happy with my lot in life--perhaps more so than many of you---and that is not an assumption--just a statement
And again I say we are entitled to our opinions on this site, despite what TPM thinks--her opinions and thoughts are not the only ones that count---I am not here to make friends nor enemies but simply to offer my experience and thoughts
Great judgement on me on your part---you are so freaking wrong --it is sad
Well enuff of this nonsense---more important i get the onions, celery, tomatoes and taters into the crock pot with the stew meat
See you all later
You use the word ASSUME a lot when posting about me--- I find that interesting when you assume a lot about me
Here are some facts about me--
Money did not enter into my sons baseball--in fact I put the word out prior to the draft that he was going to college--HE NEEDED GO TO COLLEGE--do not draft him
I am not jealous of anyone or anything--I am who I am and happy with my lot in life--perhaps more so than many of you---and that is not an assumption--just a statement
And again I say we are entitled to our opinions on this site, despite what TPM thinks--her opinions and thoughts are not the only ones that count---I am not here to make friends nor enemies but simply to offer my experience and thoughts
Great judgement on me on your part---you are so freaking wrong --it is sad
Well enuff of this nonsense---more important i get the onions, celery, tomatoes and taters into the crock pot with the stew meat
See you all later
Fight... Fight... Fight... For IOWA!
If QB doesn't get hurt we might be in the Big Game!
Then again without all that good luck earlier, the Hawkeyes might not even be bowl eligible! Let alone a BCS team.
Miami... Get ready for an invasion of farmers! I hope this Orange Bowl works out better than the last time we were there.
If QB doesn't get hurt we might be in the Big Game!
Then again without all that good luck earlier, the Hawkeyes might not even be bowl eligible! Let alone a BCS team.
Miami... Get ready for an invasion of farmers! I hope this Orange Bowl works out better than the last time we were there.