Why don't we hear?

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Could you explain why you think the ump should be punished?

Yes I agree the initial call was probably right. But the player was ejected IMMEDIATELY. And then the umpire and he met and bumped. He and the player are BOTH at fault for that. And then he goes on about the player making contact.

In the second one, there was no need for him to come AROUND the catcher and stick his finger in the catcher's face. If a player or coach were to do that, it would be an ejection and likely a fine. And contact was made in the second video as well.

The calls themselves may have been correct. But the umpire's behavior after the calls warrant correction as well.

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Originally posted by Bulldog 19:
We hear about players and managers getting suspended or fined. Why don't we hear about the umpires getting in trouble?

1. All ejections are evaluated.
2. Umpires do get fined.
3. MLB traditionally does not make umpire discipline public to avoid the appearance that any particular team, manager or player had the ability to influence umpiring. however, from time to time the publicity is unavoidable. Umpires have been suspended during the regular season, fined, lost post season opportunities and "asked" to retire/resign for behavioral and performance issues.

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Originally posted by Bulldog 19:

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Could you explain why you think the ump should be punished?

Yes I agree the initial call was probably right. But the player was ejected IMMEDIATELY.

And he absolutely deserved to be instantly gone.

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In the second one, there was no need for him to come AROUND the catcher and stick his finger in the catcher's face. If a player or coach were to do that, it would be an ejection and likely a fine. And contact was made in the second video as well.

The calls themselves may have been correct. But the umpire's behavior after the calls warrant correction as well.

In the second one, I agree the ump acted unprofessionally. However, we don't know what was said to him by: a) the catcher (who started the whole thing by visibly and obviously protesting the call of a pitch), or b) the dugout.

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In the second one, I agree the ump acted unprofessionally. However, we don't know what was said to him by: a) the catcher (who started the whole thing by visibly and obviously protesting the call of a pitch), or b) the dugout.

And had he not come in front of the catcher, we'd never know that anything was going on. You and I both know the catcher is not supposed to face the umpire. The same should be said about the umpire.

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Originally posted by Bulldog 19:

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In the second one, I agree the ump acted unprofessionally. However, we don't know what was said to him by: a) the catcher (who started the whole thing by visibly and obviously protesting the call of a pitch), or b) the dugout.

And had he not come in front of the catcher, we'd never know that anything was going on. You and I both know the catcher is not supposed to face the umpire. The same should be said about the umpire.

Umpires are trained not to "get in the catcher's face" with one exception...when all else has failed to get his attention and the alternative is an ejection. Getting in his grill and laying out the facts of life is normally the catcher's last chance to stay in the game.

The timing for that is in the umpires judgment.

Alfonso Marquez is not only the punk of all umpires, he has a history for blowing calls. I've seen him many times showing up players and managers, it's nothing new from him. They had him as the third base ump during a 1 game playoff for the AL central, Twins vs. White Sox, and he blew two big calls in that game that were not that difficult. Then he went on to mock players reactions to his calls by imitating the players.

He is a 100% classless jerk who's not very good at his job on top of it.

These are great videos. In the second one, when Mills comes out to talk to Marquez, you can hear every word.

Who's doing the play by play? It sounds like Dick Enberg.

I always thought Fox or ESPN should switch things up in the booth and bring retired umpires in for comments from their perspective. Are they allowed to do this?

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Originally posted by Vicarious Dad:
I always thought Fox or ESPN should switch things up in the booth and bring retired umpires in for comments from their perspective. Are they allowed to do this?

Already been done before.




Ron Luciano


Briefly after his retirement in 1980, he was a sports commentator with NBC. But Luciano became best known as the author of five books: The Umpire Strikes Back, Strike Two, The Fall of the Roman Umpire, Remembrance of Swings Past and Baseball Lite. His material was considered as clever and witty as his titles and the books did pretty well. The books contained mostly stories and jokes about his umpiring days.

Yeah, I forgot about him. Now I know why they don't do it.