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I have a few questions about the WWBA and BCS from some of those who have been thru this already. 

2019 plays for a good summer team. The team ranges from P5 to Juco to fringe college talent.  When they've been down to Georgia/Fort Meyers in the past they finish around or over .500. Sometimes make the playoffs, sometimes they don't, overall an above average team. 2019 will be the #1 on this team and the coach asks which game(s) he wants to throw. So the questions 

1). Is it better to throw at Lake Point in prime hours against a random team or at one of the off site high school fields against a highly ranked team. 

2). Do college coaches/MLB scouts know who the top teams are? I'm not talking about the typical power programs but do they know who the 17th ranked team is and do they take that into consideration when watching a pitcher? Results could be different when facing a top opponent vs a middle of the pack team.  

3). I see some teams throw their guys for 2/3 innings at a time and they get an extra outing or two as opposed to one complete game. Is this the new method? Kid can throw 2 innings on Mon and come back fresh Thurs whereas the complete game pitcher would probably have velo down in the later innings. 

Obviously you want the best competition when you step on the mound but when playoffs and winnable games come into the picture I understand wanting to plan accordingly. Thanks in advance 

 

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I haven't been there since 2014, so others with more recent experience can correct me if necessary.
A1. First, most pitching coaches trust what they see, regardless of the competition or the results. All things equal, you want to face the best competition because he will either perform well, or show coaches how he handles adversity. Both are important. Also, ideally your son will have coaches scheduled to see him before the tournament. That should be his focus. The percentages are against you if you're just hoping that some random school "discovers" you at LP. I know it happens, but it's a long shot. You will probably have better luck getting coaches to come watch by pitching at LP since coaches are trying to maximize the number of kids they can see. They would rather jump from field to field at LP than drive all over north Atlanta.
A2. See A1. They aren't really interested in results. They're looking at velo, command, athleticism, competitiveness, demeanor, etc.
A3. I think that depends on the program/team and how they're built, and their objectives. Some teams are there to compete and have fun more so than recruiting. They might let a kid go a complete game because he's pitching well, and their pen isn't great, and they have a chance to win. Other teams are there for recruiting. A kid might pitch twice because that gives more coaches a chance to see him. Most coaches don't need more than 1-3 innings to make an evaluation.
Good luck, and help him get started contacting coaches.

A1.  Start praying now that your team faces a great team at LP.  That is the surefire way to get good scouts.

A2.  i think you are better being seen at LP randomly.  If a team is REALLY interested in your child they will go wherever but they better be REALLY interested to drive 2 hours at 8 in the morning.  They are not looking at wins and losses but velo, mechanics, and command.  Again, a great pitching coach is looking for what can he do with your kid.  I'm guessing if he is 2019 and has not committed he is not the kid throwing 95 so he needs to let coaches know in plenty of time where and when he will pitching.  When I have had a choice with my sons, it has been LP against anybody or somewhere real close to LP against great talent. 

Waiting or holding back pitchers for LP sounds like a good plan but it all depends on the timing/schedule of your games. As others have already said it also depends your pool and the competition.  The boys wanting to be seen should be communicating the schools prior to showing up. The weather can become a factor so I would tell the boys to make sure any changes are communicated the college coaches. My sons team was scheduled to play at LP on the weds afternoon before the playoffs started that night. They were not a great team and the chances of them making any kind of playoff was slim to none. My son who was a 2 way player was told that he was going to get the ball for the last game at LP . They only got one game at LP that year. He was very excited to get the chance to get the ball that day. He did get the ball in relief for a few innings earlier in the week.

Back to Weds....The crap hit the fan that Weds afternoon... The storms came in and the delays caused what would have been a mid afternoon game into a early evening game. I thought that it would be okay because that is when the playoffs were going to start and there would probably be a lot coaches hanging around for that to start. After hrs of delays the team they were scheduled to play decided to not hang. They packed it up and went home. NO GAME! When my son found out he didn't say word and walked out to car for the drive home. My wife said it was a couple hours of complete silence from him.

In the end things turned out just fine for my son. I think he would say he had a great experience overall looking back it. I just look at it as one part of many things that happen in the recruiting process. i would never make it out to be all and end all.  Have fun! 

 

 

 

PABaseball posted:

I have a few questions about the WWBA and BCS from some of those who have been thru this already. 

2019 plays for a good summer team. The team ranges from P5 to Juco to fringe college talent.  When they've been down to Georgia/Fort Meyers in the past they finish around or over .500. Sometimes make the playoffs, sometimes they don't, overall an above average team. 2019 will be the #1 on this team and the coach asks which game(s) he wants to throw. So the questions 

1). Is it better to throw at Lake Point in prime hours against a random team or at one of the off site high school fields against a highly ranked team. 

2). Do college coaches/MLB scouts know who the top teams are? I'm not talking about the typical power programs but do they know who the 17th ranked team is and do they take that into consideration when watching a pitcher? Results could be different when facing a top opponent vs a middle of the pack team.  

3). I see some teams throw their guys for 2/3 innings at a time and they get an extra outing or two as opposed to one complete game. Is this the new method? Kid can throw 2 innings on Mon and come back fresh Thurs whereas the complete game pitcher would probably have velo down in the later innings. 

Obviously you want the best competition when you step on the mound but when playoffs and winnable games come into the picture I understand wanting to plan accordingly. Thanks in advance 

 

Definitely pitch at LP presumably at a reasonable hour against a really good team. Was at LP last year and had three games there and each game had multiple scouts. Son 2020 pitches there against top national team and there were at least 10 big time programs there 5 of which reached out after the game to coach. Also in attendance was one of the major national travel programs also scouting....and this summer he'll be playing on that programs national team. Alternatively, At the other 4 games out in the burbs only one scout we could see looking at specific kid. Pitch at lake point as early and often as possible ! Good luck ! 

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