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Very interesting numbers, calculator, and the best making a real game throw. This is the exception, every one wants to make the standard. This was quite a throw at a "clutch" time.

Larry Granillo

In case you had forgotten, Yadier Molina is an absolutely fantastic defensive catcher. As a reminder, please watch this video of Molina gunning down Dee Gordon on a stolen base attempt with maybe the best throw to second you have ever seen.

Did you watch it? Have you picked up your jaw yet? Good.

Dee Gordon is one of the fastest men in baseball and he got himself a good jump against Edward Mujica. He had no chance, though, as Molina caught the ball, stood up and fired a strike to Skip Schumaker in less time than it took for me to pour a glass of orange juice this morning.

In case you were wondering how fast Molina had to throw that ball in order to nail the speedy Gordon, I did the math asked some smart guys to do the math for me. Watching the video, I timed the throw from Molina-to-Schumaker at roughly 1.2 seconds. Over 127 feet (the distance from home to second base), that's an average speed of 72 mph. Thrown balls slow down while traveling through the air, though, so the average speed doesn't tell us how fast the ball actually was traveling out of Molina's hand.

According to the all-knowing Mike Fast (along with a little help from this very nifty Trajectory Calculator from Alan Nathan), the ball must have left Molina's hand with an initial velocity of 83 mph (and arrived at Schumaker's glove traveling 63 mph) in order to travel that distance so quickly.

That may not sound that impressive to those of us used to hearing about 95 mph fastballs, but Molina is a catcher crouching behind home plate, not a pitcher on an elevated mound who gets to go through his full wind-up. Molina had to catch the ball, grip the ball, stand up, change his body position, and throw a perfect strike to a blind target all with the pressure of a moving Gordon on the bases (and while wearing pads and a mask). A nearly-instantaneous, no-wind-up 83 mph throw is terrific.

So, yes, Yadier Molina is fantastic. Please remember this."

http://www.baseballprospectus.....php?articleid=18349


It averaged 72 mph glove to glove, and that means it had a time of ... 1.2 seconds. That is whole other universe from what Matheny was talking about above. There is a reason. It's likely that Matheny is using pop time as literally the moment the ball pops! into Molina's glove to when it pops! into the middle infielder's glove. What Granillo clocked is release-to-pop. The time it took Molina to uncoil from his crouch to make the throw is subtracted from Granillo's measurement because that would tell us nothing, of course, about the velocity of Molina's throw. The bet here is that Molina -- 1.2 seconds from hand or 1.7 seconds from pop to pop -- made the fastest throw last night of any catcher in the majors yet this year.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports...c1-0019bb30f31a.html


Video of throw here...

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play....id=24751585&c_id=mlb
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The second part to this story is the Pitchers.

"If the opponents know that a guy who is slow to home is coming into a game that's going to be their game plan. Guys are going to be looking for that opportunity to steal a base. With Yadi, you can shut it down a lot, but you still have to give him that opportunity.

"They're not stealing on Yadi," McClellan concluded. "If they're stealing, they're stealing on the pitcher."

In other words, a lot can happen in a little more than 1.3 seconds.


A few strides from the Cardinals' spring training clubhouse in Jupiter, Fla., is a bullpen with six home plates and six pitching rubbers that is often called "the six pack." It's a place where pitchers, up to a six at a time, can work.

But one day this past spring there was room for only one.

Kyle McClellan threw alone, and all around him were coaches, teammates and former pitchers. At least four held stopwatches, clocking every single throw McClellan made. They would call out the times and with each announcement of "1.4 seconds" or "1.5 seconds," McClellan would grimace.

His goal was 1.3 seconds, and he felt his season depended on it.

The Cardinals have routinely shut down opponents' running games on reputation alone. Two years ago Arizona came into Busch Stadium as one of the league leaders in steals, and the Diamondbacks' manager openly stated they wouldn't push against Molina and the Cardinals' pitchers. This past season, the Cardinals had the fewest attempts against them in baseball, and they allowed the second-fewest stolen bases, at 64 of 89.

Molina, who manager Tony La Russa called the Cardinals' "great equalizer" against the running game, had his lowest percentage of runners thrown out this season. But most of that was because of a pitching staff that didn't consistently give him a chance. Jaime Garcia, tonight's Game 6 starter, allowed 16 steals on 19 attempts against him. He had three pickoffs, and runners were 12 for 12 when trying to steal second base against him.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports...ce-5de2799e26b5.html

Because the pitchers are 1.3 to the plate, with a great catcher, even with a great catcher you cannot overcome a pitcher slow time to the plate.
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Let's not make this harder than what it should be.

Dee Gordan typically runs from 1b to 2b with a 11 ft lead in 3.33 sec.

From video:
Pitchers time to plate was about 1.4 sec
Molina's pop time (glove to glove) about 1.8 sec

With accurate throw and fielders tag, defense gets 3.3 sec runner 100% of time

Summary
Defensive times 3.2 sec
Runners time 3.33

If batter swings thru pitch, Molina may not throw Gordon out.
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Originally posted by Bear:
Let's not make this harder than what it should be.

Dee Gordan typically runs from 1b to 2b with a 11 ft lead in 3.33 sec.

From video:
Pitchers time to plate was about 1.4 sec
Molina's pop time (glove to glove) about 1.8 sec

With accurate throw and fielders tag, defense gets 3.3 sec runner 100% of time

Summary
Defensive times 3.2 sec
Runners time 3.33

If batter swings thru pitch, Molina may not throw Gordon out.



Right...

The Pythagorean Theorem applied to run defense. :]

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