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UCL Tear?
Hi guys, I am a senior left handed pitcher in high school. It has been difficult for me to pitch and do well throughout my high school career because of my elbow. During my 8th to late 9th grade year, I dealt with growth plate problems in my...
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Arm Issues/Advice
So we find ourselves in a bit of a sticky situation, with unquestionably bad timing. Today is the first day of Varsity Baseball tryouts - starting a week early this year. My son is a junior and will be trying out for Varsity at a very large, very competitive public school. As a right handed pitcher who can barely touch 80 mph, he is very much "on the bubble." After fall baseball had finished up at the end of November, he had "rested" his arm, other than going to Power Throwing at a local...
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SLAP Tear???
I am a 16 year old baseball pitcher. I was living in Japan until last Summer when I moved back to Hawaii. When I was in Japan, that is when I hurt my shoulder. I was throwing live BP to my teammates and with one throw I felt something weird in my shoulder but I kept on throwing anyways. I simply thought it was just a normal injury and thought it would heal over time and ignored it and continued throwing for a little bit more until I couldn't really tolerate the pain. The pain came from my...
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Osteochondritis Dissecans
I know that many of you have replied in the past about OCD. We are hoping for information, encouragement and answers to our 14 year old son's OCD. It presented itself in the trochlea as opposed to the Capitellum like many others. Has anyone else had OCD in the trochlea???? When he first experienced pain (we took x-rays and an MRI) he was not diagnosed with OCD. We took a conservative approach anyway by resting for 3 months, PT and then a slow throwing program to get him back on track.
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When I saw your post, it reminded me of what happened to my son, I am actually pasting up a response I had to a fellow poster on this site where I gave my experience/opinion. My son is now a sophomore in college (D1). There are basically three types of SLAP tears, type 1, 2 and 3 tears, and depending on the severity, the solutions may differ. Here is what I wrote... FOURBASES 1,000+ POSTS 1/27/16 10:10 PM Hello PitcherOnlyDad...I can relate with you and feel for you. My S had a slap tear...
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Thanks for the reply. I think the doctors told us that it was a type 2,which most pitchers have. One of the doctors told us that "you need to have a SLAP TEAR to throw 90" so I was wondering if throwing faster after a tear is a normal thing?
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I would never risk further injury - get him the proper care and rehab and focus on getting him healthy for summer ball . "I know we should shut him down NOW and look to the summer" - follow that instinct.
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Obviously, there is an issue (and there has been for a while if his arm strength deteriorated that much during last HS season) and, if I'm reading correctly, you are planning on going against doc's recommendations. I don't think that is smart at all. Sounds like the kid's baseball future is clearly on the bump and you are risking worsening an injured arm. Look, your kid is established as, at least, an important piece of the JV rotation if healthy. He doesn't stand to be an impact guy at V,...
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Best advice I can give is to take care of his arm, first and foremost. He still has another year to get healthy, develop, and get stronger. I would highly recommend that he gets in with a high level PT with lots of baseball experience and top flight baseball training facility. I would also look for a biomechanical analysis, similar to driveline. I have learned over the years how poor timing during the pitching delivery can wear down an arm much quicker and expose a player to injury.
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As the parent of a player who is just over five months post surgery on his throwing arm, I completely agree with BBMomAZ, cabbage, & coachld. Healthy first and follow PT orders exactly; then worry about baseball.
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"I've always told him that we're playing a long game here." I guess I don't understand that if you are playing the long game, why you would risk his future health? I have always believed in being upfront and transparent. I would go talk to the coach, and let him know exactly what the situation is. Since it is an injury, and your son's future is at stake, I think it is appropriate for you to talk to the coach. Additionally, you mentioned that there are rumors that your son needs TJ, and it...
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YES, and, on the other hand, DON'T try to sugar coat it and make it sound like he'll likely be back in a few weeks. You would just be setting your son and the coaches up for frustration.
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He’s not going to improve playing injured. But he could get injured worse. It looks like very little potential for upside and a lot of potential for downside.
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Talk to the coach and be up front. Can he tryout for another position or does he only pitch? Definitely don't put his arm in jeopardy for sure.
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Get healthy then pitch, needs to come clean with coach on the doctor recommendation and go from there.
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He's a pitcher only, so doesn't have any other options. I remember the old saw about playing with pain or discomfort as opposed to playing when injured, but it is tougher to apply when it is your son for sure. While there is cause for concern, he isn't, at this point, injured. When I told the doctor my thoughts, about just getting through tryouts and making the team, THEN shutting him down, she didn't say anything like "Oh my God no!" or "That is literally the dumbest thing I have ever...
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Well, I certainly may have misinterpreted or not fully understood the terminology in your first post regarding the prognosis. And, since I replied early, I may have led the thought process here down the injury path... apologies if that is not correct. Of course, I defer to the medical expert in this situation. You said specialist... if you are comfortable that she has reasonable experience with sport/throwing specific injuries, great. If not, a second opinion with a sports ortho with that...
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A player has nothing if not his health. Kudos to those here whose counsel is to do whatever is required to restore his health, being honest with coaches in the process
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NorCalBBDad, The diagnosis is: He IS INJURED! Needs rest & therapy for 4-6 weeks! Please don't misinterpret what Doctor said! It may not "present" as serious, but if he's not 100%, he's HURT & it wll only get worse if not properly tended to! My son is a pitcher. Dec 7, had surgery with 4 anchors to reattach Ulnar to the bone, wil be rehabbing till July, likely career just ended. You just never know "how many bullets are in the holster"... Cabbage & others KNOW & gave you very...
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Additional thoughts for you and other parents of young pitchers: ”After fall baseball had finished up at the end of November, he had "rested" his arm, other than going to Power Throwing at a local pitching/baseball training center twice a week” - So, in reality, there was zero rest! HS, summer travel and fall ball through November is longer than a MLB grown man goes through. Then he does Power Throwing right after. Where's the rest? Something for you and your son to commit to going forward:...
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NorCalBBDad, I re-read your post & what really got my dander up, was that you wan't to call this a " TWEAK ". WTH is that? " Stress reaction to bones connecting Ulnar Collateral Ligament with chronic UCL thickening." Please allow me to emphasize the necessity for you AND your son to become experts on arm health & pitching technique. First of all, let him recover 100%...Then, he needs a professional pitching coach to work on his mechanics and to prescribe a proper workout/conditioning...
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I think you have this part spot on. If he is truly a late bloomer and interested in pursuing college baseball at some level his best bet would be to sit out and get healthy for when the D3/NAIA showcases and camps heat up in August and Sept. If it were me in this situation I would take the spring off and work out HARD until May/June to put some size on, eat a lot, and ease my way back into pitching. See where he is at towards the end of May/June and start targeting schools that might be...
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It makes zero sense to risk further injury for hs baseball where he would be the bottom pitcher. None. It doesn’t make sense regardless, but I don’t see this as a hard choice.
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Norcal, Sincerely wish you and your son the best moving forward whatever you choose to do. For me, this is a no brainer. #1: Scrap the HS season. You are just throwing gas on the fire & he is admittedly not going to really be a factor at the Varsity level given current status. #2: 6'2" 140. Forget throwing & get in the gym 4-5 days a week & get on a proper diet to add good, quality strength & mass. #3: Have him take the weighted baseball, turn towards a wooded area &...
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Get strong and follow the 90 mph formula by Dr. Heenan! It eliminates a significant amount of arm and elbow injuries! The velo will go up in the process of it too.
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Originally Posted by AlexisLefty: May I request a second MRI with dye? Furthermore, have you guys had any experience with a son having TJ? Pain is usually around the forearm and back elbow, then weakness in forearm to wrist/hand. Hi Alexis! Sending you a PM / Dialogue
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Originally Posted by AlexisLefty: Hi guys, I am a senior left handed pitcher in high school. It has been difficult for me to pitch and do well throughout my high school career because of my elbow. During my 8th to late 9th grade year, I dealt with growth plate problems in my elbow. During my 10th and 11th grade year, I dealt with general elbow problems such as medial epicondylitis and a grade 1 UCL sprain. During the summer of my junior year, I spent time going to physical therapy in order...
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Originally Posted by AlexisLefty: Should I go to an orthopedist again to get it reviewed and possibly get an MRI and/or surgery? Yes. And if your current orthopedist doesn't think you need an MRI (with contrast), get at least one 2nd opinion. If the second one agrees, then follow the rehab exactly as prescribed. Best of luck, and I hope you're able to get this corrected.
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May I request a second MRI with dye? Furthermore, have you guys had any experience with a son having TJ? Pain is usually around the forearm and back elbow, then weakness in forearm to wrist/hand.
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When old posts are revived it’s usually a new poster. They likely go back pages looking for something they can provide input. Being unfamiliar with the format they don’t notice the initial post date.
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Shut him down or increase the possibilities that he may never play in college. In my opinion high school kids for the most part are too young for weighted baseballs in training unless they are literally at Driveline’s facility doing the training. Just my 2 cents
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I stopped reading at Junior RHP that barely touches 80 mph. But what’s with these old threads getting revived for no apparent reason?
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Well, this was a blast from the past! I did appreciate all the good advice from everyone. The conclusion: He didn't say anything to the coach and tried to pitch through it. He didn't injure the arm any further, but he didn't make the team either, and he didn't get pushed down to JV. He took that spring off, and his arm felt better. He went to a few showcases and camps over the summer, but his fastball topped out at 85 and he didn't get any attention. Long story short, he worked hard in the...
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In my world with my son, i have a saying that i send him when he tells me he feels good or his arm is working, like the old days and that is "Healthy=Awesome" Here's a kid who was rarely down except for overuse a few times in college as a reliever and coming off UNT surgery who has had a few setbacks along the way....protect your kid's arm.....and health above all, there is life after baseball.
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To an extent, arm sleeves help in arm positioning and muscle control which is very important in baseball. Although it might not directly affect your aim or your grip