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Nick Butts 2015 William and Mary committed
Nick Butts 2015 RHP Manchester HS, Chesterfield VA, Virginia Cardinals
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Academic Showcase insights
Before I invest in flights and registration costs, I’d love to get some insight into “what’s typical” for a RHP at camps like Showball and HF. My son is a sophomore and has a 3.96 unweighted. He’s 6’3”, 190lbs. Throws in the mid-80s. And pitches in the WCAL in CA. Is that enough to get interest? Or are there lots of kids with similar numbers? We’re trying to decide if we should wait until next year, and get a bit more velocity and weight. Thank you for any thoughts you may have.
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2020 with injury
Hi, I am a first-time poster though I regularly read the advice on this forum. So thanks in advance for any advice you can provide. My son is a RHP who last year (summer/fall of 2017) after his freshman year received numerous offers, including a full ride offer from a Pac12 school. He felt very much like he wanted to keep looking because he didn't know what he wanted (and the Pac12 school is in our hometown and he wants to go away for school). Anyway, fast forward to this year and he...
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How to Commit Long Distance
Hello all- I wanted to ask for some advice on my recruiting journey. I am a 2021 RHP, and I am starting to navigate the recruiting process. However, there is one school I am very interested in, and fits all my needs and wants in a school. It is a D1 program, a terrific academic institution, mid-size, located in a beautiful area, and a great school in general. I believe I have the talent to play at this school, as it is a mid-level D1 school (fastball tops out at 84 as a sophomore, compared...
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2020 RHP/ Is it too late for P5
To start off, I am a 6’3” and around 200 lbs RHP/Corners. So far in the beginning of the year I’ve been throwing around 87-90 with a plus slider and an above average change (although it’s pretty inconsistent at the moment). I think I’ll be throwing around 89- 92 when summer rolls around. I think I can play two way at the next level but I don’t think my bat alone will get me where I want to go. Also, This summer I’m going to play for one of the top travel teams in the state, which will...
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Can non Travel Players Get to the Next Level?
Hello All- I'm a 2021 RHP with the dream of playing at the next level. People tell me I have the talent to pitch at the next level, and I believe I can as well, with hard work and a little bit of luck. I throw 84 as a sophomore in HS, I have a sharp breaking ball and a pretty good changeup. I also have a feel for pitching and the game. However, I don't play travel. It's not possible for my family, as it is too expensive and my parents are too busy for that kind of commitment. I'm a hard...
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I can't get any attention or interest from coaches. 2021 RHP, 87 MPH FB
Hello all- 2021 RHP here. I have been trying very hard for the past two years to get noticed, get attention, and interest from college coaches. Email has been the means of communication, and I have pretty good skills in writing these sorts of letters. I spend an hour writing a letter to a coach, and get a two sentence response a while later usually, very generic typically and impersonnel. 99% of the time, I just get a prospect camp invite. I am not emailing schools like Florida or Vandy...
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Heading to PG 2016 WWBA 2017 Grads/17U National Championship
Very excited for our 2017 RHP who will participate in the WWBA 17U Nat. Championship starting later this week. This will be his first PG tournament and we are looking forward to the competition he will face and the opportunity to show his skills. He has been corresponding with his list of college coaches, many who plan to be there, and has sent them his game schedule. Any other advice or must-dos? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Where can I play
Just hit 89 at an ivy showcase. I was 85-88 through 3 innings. I have a 3.3 and a 34 ACT. I am a 2017 RHP with a pretty good slider. Can I play ivy? NESCAC? just curious what my options are. Thanks.
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What to do in front of a scout
The pitching coach from my top school is coming to my next game. What should I do to try to impress him? Throw as hard as I can? show command? off-speed? I am a 2017 RHP who stays about 85-88 at showcases. I have a good slider but rarely throw it for strikes. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
2018 is seeking to play at top academic school. He's been the starting SS for club team, playing national events, and also the occasional and effective closer (1-2x per week - 2-3 innings). Solid line drive hitter as well... IF velo just hit 87; pitching coach thinks his FB velo will be 85 pretty quickly. We're thinking we should be promoting his SS/RHP two player capabilities. How do Ivy's view two players? Anybody with experience or points of view with this? Hoping to tap into the...
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Online pitching evaluation service - any recommendations?
I am a long-time lurker here and this is my first time post. Needless to say, I have learned a lot from this board - many thanks to all the posters. As my username reveals, my son is a 2020 RHP. He attends a competitive baseball school in the DFW area. He made varsity as a freshman and now again as a sophomore, but will have to battle to see decent innings this season. I have tried to help him myself mostly, but would like to try a qualified pitching expert who can view video and make...
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2020 Grad- 3B/RHP
Hello All, I am the parent of a 2020 3B/RHP. He is 6'1 220. He plays for a top 10 ranked 15u team in the country and we are from md. We recently attended a PBR Showcase (Fantastic event that was well run with lots of talent.) He recorded an exit velo of 86 off a tee and threw 78 across the infield. He sits 76-80 off the mound and tops 82. He is pretty slow running a 7.8 60 and 4.6 Home-1st. We were wondering if he is on track to go d1 which is his goal. Do you all have any workouts to get...
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2018 Uncommitted RHP / IF 87-90 MPH, 6'1 175 lbs, 1410 SAT
Hey all, I am an uncommitted RHP looking for an academic D1 program. A big reason of why I'm uncommitted is because I started pitching a couple months ago. Even though my velocity reached 90, I started pitching a few months ago, making me late on the recruiting timetable. I was 87-89 at the Jupiter WWBA. I also have good offspeed pitches. I was wondering if anyone knew of schools still recruiting? It would be greatly appreciated. I would prefer a 4 year school opposed to a Juco because of...
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Re: Nick Butts 2015 William and Mary committed
I believe Midlo Dad reported the same thing over a year ago over on this thread... http://community.hsbaseballweb...pic/2015-commitments Tribe Pride!
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Yes, great for the Tribe, thought a pic from Sunday would be nice to show everyone.
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I did report it. But thanks to Bobby for the photo from UNC! Nick has been pitching quite well and really raking it. It's especially fun when he pounds one out of the park -- since he's not the biggest guy, the outfielders always do that startled thing and then have to sprint in vain to the fence. Some may remember two years ago when VirginiaPreps.com did a feature on Nick and posted a link here. Some people questioned whether you really could tell who would become a big time guy so early on...
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
FYI: This was one of the better threads on Ivy / Smart ball recruiting
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
Harvard's ace ( a junior) was a 2-way player who also DH'ed , 6 HRs and hit over .300 in regular season. He was player of the week in league this past week. He was listed as top MLB prospect pre-season in Ivy League. I can tell you when they played Yale, the interest (and radar guns) were out when he pitched, and not much attention to his ABs.
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
Gov- A couple of thoughts. On the one hand, the rosters in Ivy (in some) are smaller than the 35 you'll see at other D1s. Some pitchers (POs) will get ABs in the spring or in blowout games. Others who can hit, but were POs may DH (seen it) if there arm is injured. Schools will determine where the need is . It sounds like your 2018 is more of a SS (a position heavily recruited in Ivy due to its versatility) who can pitch. One Freshman at an Ivy this year was a pretty good hitter in high...
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Thanks Ripken. Do you think my 2018 should sign up as both a position player and RHP at HF to show pitching capability? Or, sign up as MIF/SS, and maybe mention he can pitch (show video), and say he's able to help on the mound, promoting more flexibility?
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
Before you even get to the baseball part have you researched the Ivy academic requirements and is he truly IVY GPA, test scores, levels? Second it is unusual for a middle infielder to be recruited as a two way due to the demands placed on those positions. Schools will recruit for outstanding talent first. "getting to 85 pretty quickly" is not 85, it is what ever he is now. Granted he is a 2018 so he has development time, but even though they are high academic, IVY's are looking for power...
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He has the academic chops... BOF, I think you've served up the key thing: "demands placed on positions" We'll focus on strong arm and good bat SS.
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I know (have seen play) two, two way players in the Ivy leagues. One is now in the Cardinals bull pen; the other is steaming his way through the Yankee system. One played short; the other first. One's velo sat 90, the other sat 87 in college. Both were studs at the plate; average fielders. But, in the end your son has no real control of where he'll play. (a) if he's good enough (b) he'll play anywhere the coach wants. So, the goal is to get good - very good in something - anything really.
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Along the lines of BOF 's comment, where is the real strength? His throw across the diamond for a 2018 is pretty good. I would probably sign up as MI (position that fills the quickest at HF camps) and then send video on pitching to schools you are in touch with. Again school's need will dictate much. In son's recruiting journey, he received interest as both MI and CF. In the end he was offered for a spot as an "athletic MI who could play the OF if needed." Good luck.
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As far as signing up for HF - there were plenty of players there who pitched and played the field when we were there. I think it's possible for him to sign up as MIF and still get one or two innings each day. Esp day 2 - they are scrambling to fill innings. My 2016 signed up as PO, still did the batting cage part of the camp so he wasn't just standing around and somehow ended up starting MIF and batting in game 2 on the first day. The only thing he didn't participate in was the...
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
His strength is at SS, and already signed up as MIF for HF. I've tried to protect his arm by limiting time on the mound to a few innings per tournament. Wasn't until his velo picked up that this idea of marketing as a two player came up; another angle to generate more appeal. Just needed to air this out with the wisdom on the board, thank you.
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Beyond all the advise that has been offered, there is more to it than just your son. A few years ago, I believe very few Ivy HCs believed in it and most not at all. From our 4 year experience in the "League" only Princeton had a consistent philosophy of allowing two-way players. 4 HCs within the Ivy have changed since my son hung up his cleats in 2014, so I think it is a fair question to ask the HC about his specific two-way philosophy. So, assuming you get through all the academic and...
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My son was in a similar position when getting recruited. He was looking at some of the high academic D3s but not quite Ivy level. He has always been a MIF and a closer (although in HS, he played SS but did not pitch much despite hitting 88mph on the gun in his senior year), During the recruiting process, he always focused on explaining his tools and saying he was willing to play anywhere the team needed him but told the absolute truth about his desire to play MIF and pitch whenever the team...
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Re: Recruitable as Two Way Player for Ivy ???
I don't have Ivy experience, but I am the parent of a two-way player in high school. It's a lot of work to be good at both positions, and keep up with academics. My son is now a freshman at an elite academic D3 and he is hoping to NOT be a two-way player even though the coach has mentioned he might be used as a closer. He will do whatever is asked of him, but it will be very hard with his academic workload.
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My 2017 has signed up as a two way C/RHP at all of the major camps and showcases and even into the Fall of his Senior year, it is still not clear where his greatest value is. Some coaches have focused on his catching and others like his pitching prospects because of his strong arm. Our experience has been to enroll his primary position as C (or in your case MIF) and then list Pitcher as the secondary. Every event he has been to, they have always allowed him to pitch at least one inning,...
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I would focus on MIF. He should have soft hands and range, it appears he has a strong arm and I would also focus on speed development and high OBP. The most successful MIF's I saw in my son's college career were magic in the infield, and had a high OBP, plus speed. That is the profile you are trying to fit into. LHH helps also. My son was a two way in college and was recruited by IVY's, received one offer but decided to go to a baseball powerhouse high academic D3. He pitched and played in...
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My 2012 was recruited and offered as a two way (SS / RHP) at 7 of the 8 Ivys and a lot of other places. He always showcased as a SS first, and secondarily as a RHP. But it was our expectation that the coaches would play him where they felt he best fit, i.e., offering the recruit as a two way player is not the same as committing to the player any position or any playing time once in college. My 2016 showcased as a SS and RHP too. However, he did not have the arm to ultimately pitch in college...
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I really can't add much to the conversation, but college coaches are always looking for someone that can pitch well. If you can hit, you will be in the lineup. Do both, the coach basically gets a 2-for-1 guy. However, in college it is hard to pull it off well with double the practice time. Your goal is to get on the field, so many decide to be pitcher only or position only. (as much as I hate to admit it).... My favorite 2-way guy to watch right now is Adam Haseley at UVA. Played/started...
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Yale once had a SS/RHP 2-way player who turned out to be pretty good.
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I would think with a current Velo of low 80s the chances are better as a Position Player. maybe in a weak Team he could also serve as an innings eater emergency reliever and you could mention that to the Coach but likely at this Point he is a Position Player. most two way Players are guys who throw really hard (but maybe have some control issues - because if you throw hard and have control you are a pitcher even if you can hit unless you can hit like babe ruth ).
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As was already mentioned , w/ HS pitcher recruiting at the D1 level it starts with velocity numbers . Basically, the magic number is 85 on the left side. 88 on the right side. That's during the recruiting process. Which means if your son is a righty Junior he needs to be at 88 mph on the gun in High School. Period. And the ivy league is no different. Also, the Ivy is it's own specialized unique maze of recruiting rules and timelines and it is EXTREMELY difficult to actually land a roster...
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I like what you've said, pretty much applying the BS meter to the recruiting process with son and parent. 2018 will stay focused on his primary position, while continuing to hone craft, speed and strength. Son took the ACT for the first time the past Saturday, that will provide another data point to see where he's at...
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STRAINEDOBLIQUE said it "exactly" like it is, also based on personal experience. Ivy's are also looking for 90+ pitchers. Just because the schools are academic doesn't mean that they just want smart kids, they want kids that can play and then pass through admissions and you will known when they want your kid, like STRAINED said.
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The high academic D3's appear to operate exactly the same way as the Ivy's. My 2017's interest from a couple of the elite schools played out exactly the same way with a request from the HC for a copy of the transcripts and test results to "run by" the admissions office. One of them told him that they could not get a "yes" from that pre-read but could get a likely "no chance." And sure enough, he has not heard back from that coach, so he knows the answer on that one. The other one said go...
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Backstop, thanks for the Intel... I wasn't thinking 2018 had to take both the SAT & ACT... Probably makes sense to figure out which test is a better fit... 30 years ago the SAT was the only test accepted for the high academics, now ACT seems to be the standard. Good luck to your son.
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Gov: I am thinking since your son has time, he should take both the SAT and the ACT. It definitely seems ACT has been the more recognized, but SAT just revised their test to be more like the ACT. If he is striving for the high academics, having excellent scores on both tests cannot hurt and may actually help if he is right on the border. We are also finding some of the schools also value the SAT subject tests, particularly if he is thinking of a STEM major. As we have been told, the subject...
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Good stuff... Even if you have just the ACT, for some of the high academics don't you have to take two SAT Subject Tests? Others here likely know, have to look that up... Think son is leaning on the financial-economics track...
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No matter how many times I read posts like Strained's and the ones that follow, I still need to read them again. Kid is hoping for something and any shred of response from THE DESIRED OBJECTIVE fans the flame. If there's tepid response, need to accept that the fire isn't there, and the matches are wet. My 2017 has had exactly the same experience with the Div 3's he's interested in. Some have faded away, a few have pre read his transcript and scores, and have greenlighted his admission. The...
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One thing to remember is that a coach may send 20 pre-reads to admissions of potential recruits. The number of recruits for an Ivy for example may be 7 or 8, and the coaches already have on their board the prospects ranked. Lets say that all 20 come in with satisfactory pre-reads that means that the coach has 20 options and they will go according to their board rankings, so if the 7/8 top recruits decide to go to that school, the remainder recruits are out of luck. That is why regardless,...
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Gov- The Ivies (aside from the baseball side) rely heavily on the rigor of the transcript (give a strong look at APs) and the AP test scores, coupled with board SAT/ACT scores. While SAT subject tests no longer "appear to be "required" of the Ivies, they are strongly recommended (from a link I read that came out this summer). I think my son took 4. Georgetown, another non-Ivy high academic used to require three tests, though they have pared that back. Most will accept either the SAT or ACT.