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Re: 2018 Help!! What are my options?
Whoops! Confused you with someone else. Go to the D3.com website someone suggested. Click on teams. Click on region. Click on teams in your region. Find their league standing. Chances are if the top teams aren't after you at this point they're not interested. They recruit. Look at the .500 teams. What I posted about calling coaches still applies. You don't have time to waste. You should make your calling list over the next couple of days and be on the phone Wednesday morning.
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
JuCo (NJCAA) is not much different from the NCAA D1, D2, D3, etc when it comes to recruiting. Most quality JuCo teams recruit just like the "big boys" and walking on at good JuCo programs can be just as hard as walking on at a D1 or D2 university. Don't assume anything. My son was recruited by a JuCo that has had a consistent showing in the regional playoffs. At his freshman fall practices there were 55 players including two walk-ons. Out of the 55 only 35 made the spring squad and neither...
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
The recruiting is pretty much the same for JUCO as it is D1,2,3 with the exception that JUCOs typically recruit later in the process. They don't want to spend time recruiting a kid that will end up going to a D1/2/3 school so they will wait until that recruiting timeline has passed. I can tell you that my son was watched by JUCOs last fall and recruited/signed this January. The school he will be attending is still looking for a player or two, and they are still actively recruiting through...
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
Please consider watching the current California Community College Regional playoffs. Your son will have a good perspective on his future college baseball goals. In California there is little recruiting by the Coaches. Encouragement yes. Each September, there will be over 80 prospects at the 1st day of practice. Do you live near Riverside? Bob Williams
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
Your son could be setting himself up for disappointment, however, IMO he definitely has a better chance as a walk-on at JuCo than at D1/2/3. For one thing, JuCos typically play more games in the fall. That will allow the coach to make a better assessment of his talent than the more restricted schedules of D1/2/3. Also, JuCo rosters are much more fluid than four year schools. Obviously they have to replace about half of the team every year, plus a few guys do get drafted or move on the D1...
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
Thanks for the responses. I have a new perspective. Yes, he talked to the Recruiting Coordinator this weekend about his plan to attend and play. He didn't discourage him in the least and was asked to play this summer.
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
Wow, that is quite different than our experience with California JC. Most rosters are filled with players who not only started for their HS but were all-league caliber. I've had several players with all-league recognition get cut by the local JC here (granted, a strong one that is a bit rare in that they typically get several players from out of the area as well). Both JC's one son played for had 80+ show up in fall. Blood bath every year. I guess I could see what you describe happen with a...
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
2nd what Cabbage says and particularly what Bob Williams says. Playoffs are currently going on within a short drive from wherever you live in SoCal. Your son should be able to get an idea very quickly of whether or not he can play at that level. As for what the RC says I'm sure he's sincere, but that doesn't mean the the program doesn't cut half or more of the kids who show up in the fall. That's what I hear about the local JC up here in NorCal.
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Re: JUCO walk-on?
All this is agreeable. In my son's experience, yes they do recruit later in the process, generally during the senior season. During his frosh fall ball, about 70+ showed up but it's a good thing that your son will be playing for the RC's summer team. Gives the RC about 2 months to evaluate him and gives him a head start over some of the other walk ons who's not playing for him. Good luck to him.
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Re: College Coaches Show Case Camp
The answer is "it depends." If any of the schools that will have coaches at this camp are schools of interest to you/your son its well worth the cost - as this is not an expensive event. Even one session for $179 is not bad just for the experience. If your son does well he may get on the right radar early on. On the flip side, if you have no interest in any of these schools (and you don't need the showcase experience) then its a waste of time and money.
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Re: College Coaches Show Case Camp
We've gotten the same emails and the same letter in the mail. These camps are worked by the volunteer coaches. It is a way for them to make some extra money. There won't be any RC's or HC's there from what I can tell. We have been getting email after email from Ohio and Iowa about the camp in Memphis. Friends of ours have too. It is pretty clearly a money grab.
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D-MAC, l checked a few locations and Ohio is is a lot of them. makes me wonder. Couple of other kids at least in our school that I've talked to also got the same letters.
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Re: College Coaches Show Case Camp
Welcome to the site. In the coming years, your son will likely get flooded with camp, showcase, tourney and try-out invites, especially camps. This site is a great resource for sorting out what makes sense to consider for each player's situation. First, he needs to start putting together a recruiting plan (if he is starting to feel ready to attend some of these events). It won't make much sense to pay for and attend an event if he has no interest in the schools present, except for the...
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Re: College Coaches Show Case Camp
My son attended this particular showcase in our area. The only reason he went was because he was already speaking to a RC that was going to be there and they hadn't seem him yet aside from video. I do think it was a money grab though. They were supposed to get one on one feedback from the coaches running the showcase, however, in my son's case, he was a pitcher and they had coaches trade off when they were watching the bullpen. So only one coach actually watched my son. I ended up sending an...
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Re: College Coaches Show Case Camp
Ohio is relentless on the e-mails for these camps they collaborate on around the country. Thousands sent every year. Also, look at their roster and where they sign their players from. Teams like Ohio typically are not fully funded at 11.7 scholarships, so they tend to recruit home-grown talent or talent from border states. Couple of kids from California and one from Texas (outliers) but everyone else is from the rust belt.
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Happens all the time. Where do you think the showcases get their mailer lists? Largely from school camps and other showcases. A player is tagged to have attended "event A". Mass invites are sent. "We saw you at "event A" and liked what we saw. We would like to invite you to "event B" for another look and an opportunity to ..." blah, blah, blah. That's also why so many get this note even when they ended up not attending "event A". But how did they see me when I wasn't there? ... is a question...
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Thanks to all that replied, great info and much appreciated.
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Re: What questions should I ask on a campus visit?
Questions to ask the coach during your unofficial visit When you go on your unofficial visit, one of your top priorities should be to ask the coach any questions you have about the school and the program. Before you go, write down your questions and keep adding to the list throughout your visit. When it’s time to talk to the coach, you’ll have your list ready to go, rather than trying to come up with questions on the spot. Here some examples of questions you might want to ask: What are the...
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Re: What questions should I ask on a campus visit?
To be clear, my son is just starting this chaos, so I have NOT been there and done that, but this is what I would like to know. 1. Am I required to live anywhere specific? Some schools have a baseball "house", others say in the dorms, others say they don't care, some make you room with a baseball player. 2. If I take THIS major do you think I can graduate on time or am I required to take summer or winter school? Do you have a cap on the credits per semester I am allowed to take? 3. Can I...
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Re: What questions should I ask on a campus visit?
Since you're going to a school with a new coaching staff, you might ask what drew the coaches to the college and what they like about it, plus what they would like to change moving forward and how you might fit into that new direction.
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Re: What questions should I ask on a campus visit?
Congrats to you!!! Hope one of those schools ends up being a great fit for you! As for questions, I think a lot depends on what you hope to accomplish as a student and athlete at said school. I know my son wanted to know about player development. What is their track record in terms of developing players? Do they do their best to provide all players multiple opportunities to perform in games and prove themselves? In terms of academics, do they support players who choose to challenge...
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Re: What questions should I ask on a campus visit?
Responses above are great. We had a discussion last week with a HC in which my son also asked: What is the team culture? What are you looking for in your 20XX class? Where would you see me fitting?
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Re: What questions should I ask on a campus visit?
What questions should I ask on a campus visit? Any chance you could throw in a rally girl with that offer?
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
My son is still looking. He is a SR class2017.He is 6'1 135lbs. We live in OKlahoma He is a RHP. Throws in high 70's to low 80's. Throws 2seem,fast ball, mean curve ball,sinker. He also plays IF but loves pitching first. Have been to many showcases this year and last. Has looked at some college but only has 1 scholarship offer Would appreciate any HELP
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Perhaps if you provide a little additional information than some folks can help in pointing you in the right direction. One of you posts has your son at 6-1 135. Perhaps what other pitches does he have? More importantly, what schools are agreeable, whether geographically, academically, etc.? The more information, the better you can then start putting together a target list. No idea about OK, but JUCO route still has lots of opportunity for 2017 grads.
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Welcome to the site... I agree with Screwball, more info would be helpful and it is certainly not too late for JC's or other D3, NAIA opportunities. In most areas, most JC's have a very local flavor and the coaching staff is familiar with the local talent. Are there JC's in your immediate area? Has your son had dialog with them? Based on his weight, I assume he hasn't really physically matured yet. Does he project to get much bigger or taller? Has he played much travel ball? Are there...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
My son is still looking. He is a SR class2017.He is 6'1 135lbs. We live in OKlahoma He is a RHP. Throws in high 70's to low 80's. Throws 2seem,fast ball, mean curve ball,sinker. He also plays IF but loves pitching first. Have been to many showcases this year and last.
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
No I think he's doing growing tall. He has been lifting wts. and building up but he's just a skinny boy. No he goes to a very small school and the coaches don't help their students much. He has asked the coaches about getting help to play ball but this is year 2 and know one helps. We have emailed coaches both at Jr. college and University. He has got to showcase for a couple of them. But a lot we have not heard from. He plays summer ball and has played all his HS years. Been to many...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
OK, you mentioned earlier that he only has one scholarship offer. He can only go to one school, right? So one is enough if it is a school that is a fit. Realistically, high 70's, low 80's from a 2017 RHP isn't going to solicit much immediate college attention (let alone MLB) and probably little or nothing from a baseball scholarship standpoint unless he has a lot of credible success against verifiable competition (i.e. - a good travel team). Many questions still haven't been answered. Good...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Didn't want CABBAGEDAD's comments to passed over as advice to a single poster. Those types of responses are what got me hooked on this site. I am sure CABBAGE has done this before, but took the time to do it again and will probably keep on doing it as long as folks have questions. THANKS for the time and continued effort! TINAJ - Really good advice. If you want, please provide a generic version of the offer your son currently has (no names, no specifics) and maybe outline what are the good...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Thanks Screwball. I meant to add to Tinaj regarding this statement... "His career goal is to be a MLB player, but if that fails he wants to coach HS or college baseball." I am not one to advocate telling a player he shouldn't/couldn't chase his dreams. However, at some point, it makes sense to check the progress meter and adjust goals and dreams. As a senior in HS, in addition to chasing the baseball dream, he should also have a backup or primary plan for his career. How is he going to make...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Just curious if your son has found a place to go to school. Best of luck, hope he finds a great school to allow him to play some more baseball and get the education he is looking for. BBB
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
My son is 6'2 175 lb outfielder who runs a 4.7 second 60. He is 2017 Senior wanting to play Junior College preferably in Florida. He is 3 year Varsity Starter currently batting .390 from the leadoff position. He is 3 year American Legion All star Below are links that contain a scouting report from the Connecticut American Legion All Star game. The second link is to my high school stats from my Junior season. http://www.prepbaseballreport. com/profiles/CT/Justin-Miller- 4813062957#tab2...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Welcome to the site. I'm not quite sure if you are dad or player - your post says "my son" but then says "my HS stats.." Doesn't matter, your questions and contributions are welcome either way. That said, I'm also not exactly sure what your question is. If you are asking if it is feasible to play JC ball in Florida, all we have to go by is your numbers. Video would help. Based purely on the numbers, your speed, power and arm strength do not appear to stand out among college players, in fact...
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Re: HS Baseball Looking for JUCO Route
Since he is a 2017, it is pretty late in the process, but it is not too late. At this point in the process, I would get video to as many JC coaches as I could. Cabbage is right about Florida. The competition will be stiff. Get to as many showcases this summer as you can. It only takes one good performance in front of the right guy to make it happen. Good luck!
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Re: JUCO after a "Gap"?
Yes very possible. All it takes is one coach who recognizes the talent.
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
I guess my decision point would be "not the strongest" versus "weak". If truly weak, then JUCO might be best to get some classes needed before moving to a 4 yr and maybe see if college is truly workable. If academics are simply not a priority at this time, then now might be the time to make the commitment to put in the effort and tackle the 4yr school academics. Given the level of support that is provided at many schools, I would hope this is doable and baseball could provide the carrot...
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
Don't make the mistake of assuming he would get "more" playing time at a JuCo. Depending on the program it can be very competitive.
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
Academics in college, no matter where you go, can be very tough to adjust to. Time management is at a premium, and there are plenty of distractions. I have an older son who is now 25. He struggled a little in high school in terms of grades. He went to a relatively smaller school for undergrad and it took him a year or so to get his academic footing. He ended up excelling academically and is now at a prestigious Grad School. He played some club sports part-time in undergrad but has told me...
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
The JUCO situation in Southern California is really tough on both fronts. The baseball teams are loaded with lots of D1 talent players who did not make the grades to play D1 and are now trying to get there. A kid who is not a top baseball talent is not likely to play much. And then many of the core classes are filled with lots of motivated students who either could not get admitted into the increasingly competitive UC and State schools (despite many having high GPAs and test scores) or...
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
There is a JUCO in southern Wisconsin, Madison College. Just a quick look through their roster, all of their IF's were either 1st or 2nd Team All-Conference in High School. And this is a team that finished just 1 game over .500 in 2016 Same with a few of the IL JUCO's I know about, Rock Valley, and Joliet You have to be really good to play JUCO Baseball.
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
Hey Dad... I'm a bit confused at your thoughts on academics. You are assuming he will have a better chance at academic success at a JUCO but you just don't see academic support at most Juco's. Those statements seem to contradict. I agree with the latter. Some of the JC's I am familiar with require athletes to attend an hour of what amounts to study hall if their GPA is below x level but that's about it. There will be various listings of tutors available for hire but I think generally, JUCO...
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
JUCO opportunities vary greatly by location. The more competitive the league = more D1/D2 scouts/coaches watching. There maybe alot of D1 talent in SoCal JC leagues, however, If a kid is a legit D1 talent he will play, a marginal D2 talent might not play on a strong JC team. The SoCal JC leagues are competitive but most of the players move onto D2, Some JC coaches do a good job at getting the kids to take the right classes, some others not so much. Ultimately it comes down the student's...
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
" generally, JUCO students are left to fend for themselves more so than at any typical D3-D1, NAIA options" Although it varies by school, I would disagree. Generally speaking kids will find the JUCO instructors to be more available to help then the professors at 4 year schools. I.e. my wife took Chem 1a at UC Berkeley with 900 other students, she didn't get any one on one time with the instructor, sure my wife had a T/A who spoke English as a second language to help out.... My JC Chem 1a...
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
Thanks everyone who responded. I guess if there were an easy answer to these questions, I would already know the answer. In a way, it comes down to finding a school where there is enough academic support to meet the rigor of the classes offered. and maybe trying to lump 4 year versus 2 year is not the way to look at this.
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Re: Selecting the JUCO route
JUCO's can be a great option. In many states (WI/IL/MN for sure) JUCO's are easier academically than the D1's in-state, and cost way less.
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What is sons GPA if u don't mind sharing. Some parents think low 3's is bad. he has a yr left of HS, I would get busy finding him tutors, someone to teach him study skills, and ACT tutor as well. The thing that shocked me the most at sons school is players, esp freshmen who had grade problems. School had mandatory study hall, but son said many goofed off and didn't use time wisely. Coach talked to many about grades, and some lost scholarships, and were cut. Sure this happens everywhere. Its...