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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
" He's also been admitted to several D1 schools that offered no support in admissions but are giving him the basic "you can walk on" email." Most of the D1s have locked up their recruiting and spent the available scholarship dollars at this point for the 2016s and probably most 2017s, too. However, there are ~7+ players on each team that are not getting athletic scholarship dollars, and are vying for a spot. If your son gets his pitching numbers up, there could be an opportunity. Many D3s...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
I agree with JCG about the US News rankings. A student may have to make a choice between playing baseball or going to a top 50 ranked USN school without playing baseball. An aside - I understand that the OP's son isn't interested in a list of possibilities outside a top 50 school, yet for others reading this thread who are looking at colleges with a child, I want to point out that some students with a high ACT score and enough AP passing test scores make JuCo a non-possibility. A student...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Daddyo, Okay, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. Yes, unfortunetly I think he's missed the D1 & Ivy boat, but that it fine. He's got options to academically elite D3 schools as you described them, and an opportunity to play D3 baseball. That is nothing to sneeze at, and frankly an opportunity that not many people get. Considering the limited exposure your son demonstrated in front of college coaches, I'd say he got more than his fair share of attention if multiple coaches supported him.
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Not much to add here, but walk-ons do sometimes, if rarely make it. Had a nephew who was a recruited walk-on at a low ranked midwestern D1 and he was cut. Still at the school cause he loves it. ON the other hand, son's HS teammate was a recruited as a walk-on to a UC, he too was cut. Played club ball for a year and is now at a JC. But on the flip side, my son's travel team teammate was a recruited walked on at Big 10 school, played his tail off in fall ball, absolutely raked during the fall...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
When my son was a junior in HS, the starting catcher received an offer and committed to a high academic small liberal arts D3 during the spring of his senior year. It can happen. The cards shuffle for D3 just like D1 (school thought they had a commit, now a spot is open) - just a little later.
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
You've gotten some excellent advice - it's really too late for D1 recruiting unless a school has a unique situation arise. I'm curious, what do you see as his primary position? If you mentioned that earlier and I missed it, I apologize. The only other option you might consider is a post graduate prep school year. That gets him another whole year to both mature athletically and have another shot at recruiting. There are several elite preps on the east coast (that's my area of knowledge, there...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
In looking at your sons's athletic history and clear enjoyment and success at playing multiple sports, I wonder if choosing a school which has club sports in his sports may provide the athletics he needs. Or were you looking to leverage baseball to get into a school he wouldn't otherwise be admitted? I know that the Ivies generally do not reach the NCAA roster limit and kids walk on (get through admissions on their own) frequently. If your son is a late bloomer whose baseball skills add to...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Thanks for all the responses here and assistance. I'll try to address as much of the feedback as a I can. He wants to play an NCAA sport and get that experience. In the end he knows he needs to pick a school where he would be happy if he broke his leg on the first day of classes. He'd choose a great fit/school over a less good fit where he could play an NCAA sport. I guess he wants the best of both worlds, and as a 18 year old this is the time to have these dreams. He didn't apply at any of...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Daddyo, As others have pointed out, it could be a possibility that your son gets picked up his senior year after a D1 committed recruit decommits or fails to get admitted. It does happen and nearly happened to my son his junior year with an SEC school. However, the big difference is the SEC school had seen my son play a dozen times over the spring and summer…they knew who he was and what he was capable of. Your senior son is an unknown quantity to a lot of these D1 schools in the middle of...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Does your son want to pound his chest and say he was on a D1? Or is getting on the field more important? Players should go where they are loved not where there's just some interest. When there's just interest chances are there's a recruit ahead of him at his position (maybe two) who are getting love. Be a player not an insurance policy for the coach.
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
At this point if he had to decide he'd go with the one that loves him, but since he's still dating and not engaged or married, he's still looking for other suitors that might fall in love with him.
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Your son sounds like a lot of kids that straddle the D1/D3 threshold. I am not sure what position he plays primarily or what kind of hitter he is against elite pitching or if he even knows, but it sounds like his 85 off the mound is the real spark for the inquiry. While the exit velo. sounds pretty good, based on my observations, there is a LOT more that goes into being projected as a successful hitter at the D1 level than exit velo; I know a multitude of kids who can hit elite high-level...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
All good stuff, thanks for the input.
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
Very true 6... tobe9 For those players, once one D1 shows interest, others may follow. Sort of like it's easier to get a job if you already have one. Tough enough to get an offer let alone waiting for the D1. How many of our sons have heard the RCs say, "what other schools are looking at you?" Your answer can determine how "convinced" they are.
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
I got a kick out of the OPs post. My son had identical numbers to the OPs son and turned down an Ivy to attend a highest academic D3 where he thought he'd get everyone out, be a two way player, and a four time All-America. Well, he couldn't get anyone out until he was a Junior throwing high 80's. The All-America finally came but it was a long hard road! All turned out great but it was super hard and he never regretted the high academic D3 over the Ivy. Be careful what you wish for. It looks...
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Re: Too late for elite academic recruiting for 2016 grad?
One more thing for the OP. Each team has at least 25 players but only 9 play and some of those nine are failing. That means the vast majority of college baseball players leave the sport having failed, and are, by and large, unhappy about it. Pick the place where you are going to succeed......in the classroom.
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Re: Sept 1 contact
this is an interesting read if you are thinking about doing this during the fall http://ericcressey.com/basebal...oney-and-get-injured
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Re: Age of Perfect Game Showcases?
Originally Posted by jolietboy: And that nothing to lose mentality is exactly what I want for him the first time he goes. And (no offense to PG contributor to this site) but the first one I might downscale to PBR or something. Don't know if jumping right in to PG would be best. You (bucsfan)sound like someone I should talk to. Would love to know where your son stood at the various age levels. I also have a big RHP (just turned 13 this month 6'1" 180). And there is plenty of height in the...
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Re: Value of the Stolen Base?
I once had a team steal 230 bases. It is being scrutinezed now by the IHSA for induction into the state records. Our 6'5" 240 lbs firstbaseman stole 18. We had 4 with 40 or more. That team wasn't supposed to be very good according to some "experts." They won 25 games. Had we not run, we would not have won 10. It isn't just the stolen base. It is the pressure in every other facet of the game. I could elaborate more but basebal people such as the posters on this site understand all of the...
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Re: UCL tear
Hey...been a while. We need a "bump" here. Who is that leading the Cape in K's and top 5 in ERA?!!! I have lost track of ChefMike but I sure am proud of his son! What a comeback from TJ. Also, did anyone see his incredible performance against Stanford in the Regionals?! 1 run, 1 BB, 6K in 6.2 IP. You can run, ChefMike, but Jeremy cannot hide. Seriously, hope all is well. http://pointstreak.com/basebal...6&seasonid=31242
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
Being one of those 2020 parents I just googled the article. http://ericcressey.com/basebal...oney-and-get-injured The gist is that showcases that fall during a players "down time" is not a good idea because you can't be "on" all year long, it's unhealthy. I have a question. Would this statement made in the article still be true? "I can honestly say that in all my years of training baseball players, I’ve only seen one kid who was “discovered” at a showcase. And, frankly, it occurred in...
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
I read the article years ago and when it was posted today. Here is the thing, I am not going to get into where a player gets discovered. Playing in tournaments is a lot different than off season showcases. I think many of us here have tried to get that point across. Funny how we all see things differently, but as I always said, the folks of the younger set will realize how important this type of info will be someday when their player needs some major surgery..BEFORE HE RECEIVES A COMMITMENT.
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
It has also been discussed many times on this board that things have changed over the last 5 years. This article is 6 years old. I was wondering if showcases played a bigger part now in most people's recruiting path than they did 6 years ago.
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
See Go44's reply. Read it, read it again. Save it.
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
I was the OP . and I said it was from 2010 , I agree with some of the things said , but the exposure has evolved in the last 6 plus years, the one thing I don't like about showcases and I cant speak for all of them only the ones ive been to, and also for PG events i haven't been to one yet, Is the lack of warm up time, especially the arms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the worst I've ever seen it, kind looks like rec ball pre game, thats why my kid warms up before , so there no injures...
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
I think you bring up a valid point. While there are top tournaments and showcases done right, there are others that arent. That was why I felt that the article, although written a few years back, had merit. As a parent be smart, choose and spend wisely.
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Re: Posted article from Eric Cressey removed on showcases
This would be a pretty big problem to me. Luckily, I haven't run across it yet.
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Re: JO East
MVP 8 Buckeye Basebal Academy 6 MVP got back on winning track in nine innings. Justin Guiliano pitched three innings, allowing five runs (one earned) on three hits. Sean Swetnam hurled four innings, allowing only an unearned run on three hits. Will Krasne pitched a hitless, scoreless eighth and ninth for the win. Brandon Erbe led the offense with three hits, including a double and two RBIs. Scott Miller added two hits. Corey Overholtzer doubled in a run. Ryan Murray knocked in a run also.
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Re: And Now.......Bonds
Records always will be relative to the times that were set. For example, pitchers were not the same when Ruth set his record. Saves are now easier to broke, because 30 years ago was not closers. Carl Ripken record, never will be broken, because actual players make too much money to play for pride. How many Pete Rose's hits were hit because the astro turf in so many parks in the 70's.? How many HR Bonds will hit today if the pitching mount and the fences were the same that in the 70's? Do...
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Re: First offer tonight!
Well said. It's part of coach speak to get you on board. Sometimes it's said because they have a tough time with getting commitment later than sooner. It's not always a bad thing, but it's just an example that they know how to do it better than we do.
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Re: I guess it's not just a game anymore...
I don't know where your son is playing or if it's at a similar level, but the other day I was checking out the Cape Cod League website to see how a couple of guys we know are doing (really well) and I clicked on the transactions page. Absolutely brutal. http://pointstreak.com/basebal...&seasonid=31242#
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Re: I guess it's not just a game anymore...
Keep in mind that many of these players released were temps until the post season was over. As to RedFish's response, he is right, the coaches have to notify players by the 30th.
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Re: I guess it's not just a game anymore...
I don't know where your son is playing or if it's at a similar level, but the other day I was checking out the Cape Cod League website to see how a couple of guys we know are doing (really well) and I clicked on the transactions page. Absolutely brutal. http://pointstreak.com/basebal...&seasonid=31242# Thanks for providing a link, one team here has activated 40 different players in the last 19 days. Wow
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Re: I guess it's not just a game anymore...
I noticed some guys activated (resulting in the release of someone else), that were in Omaha. I think that needs to be taken into consideration. I kind of compare this to milb transactions. It's pretty active this time of year, replacing current guys to make a spot for the newly drafted.
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Re: Preferred Walk-on / Admissions
UCLA has had some notable successes. David Berg for one, who I believe ended up as the NCAA all time saves leader. Good article here: http://dailybruin.com/2012/09/...nd-for-ucla-basebal/ Also, the dh on last year's UCLA team, who started as a walk-on freshman.
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Re: Preferred Walk-on / Admissions
Here is where problems come into play. The category is “hearing/seeing what you want to hear rather than what is being said.” When the term “preferred walk on” comes up in conversation some parents and players will tell themselves how well it worked out for a handful of players. Therefore it’s ok. What they don’t know is how many players at UCLA tried to walk on and got nowhere. As suggested it must be asked of the coach, “What does it mean in my situation?”
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Re: ISO Bag Recommendations For Catchers Traveling By Air
We use this one: https://www.easton.com/basebal...s/e100g-8014602.html Bats actually fit lengthwise inside the bag and for extra protection we put them in cardboard mailing tubes (purchased at a UPS store for a few dollars). We have never had to pay any extra luggage fees so it seems this bag is within the standard bag size to check in. My son's mitt always goes with him in the carry-on bag.
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Re: Illinois 17u baseball team looking for players
Hi Dan, I am a 17 year old 2014 from Iowa. I am interested in your team that you are forming. In Iowa we play high school basebal in the summer. I am not sure if that would be an issue for what you are looking for or not. We usually do not have any games on Saturdays or Sunday. Thank You, Tyus Adkins
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Re: Gulf Coast CC
BTW, here is the link to the basebal program if you choose to look.There is also an on line application. http://wellness.gulfcoast.edu/baseball.htm "Everybody kind of perceives me as being angry. It's not anger, it's motivation." Roger Clemens
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Re: Poll: No steroid users in record books
You can't go back and apply punishement to a 'crime' retroactively . Let's say the feds find Bonds used steroids illegaly. Basebal can't just arbitrarily apply a punishement that wasn't already in their by-laws. As for the future. The policy should be: Get caught the first time- one year supsension. Get caught 2nd time- lifetime ban. That sends the message. The five strike policy is a joke.
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Re: Notre Dame to the ACC
I'm shocked the ACC hasn't already forced Syracuse to field a basebal team by a certain date. I know it was a basketball move but an ACC team should be required to have a baseball team.
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Re: Notre Dame to the ACC
It wasn't a basketball move. The Big East is stronger than the ACC. It was a business move based on football issues will ultimately cause the Big East to crumble. Why should Syracuse be forced to have a baseball program? How are they going to draw ACC level talent to play in their weather?
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Re: Notre Dame to the ACC
I agree with Bulldog19 that it would be difficult to force a school to add a sport as there are cost issues as well as possible Title IX issues. Syracuse has a softball team. There are other D1 baseball schools in upstate NY including Albany, Binghampton, Buffalo, and Cornell. Granted it is the ACC we're talking about, but it is doable (Carrier Dome?) or they may spend the first 4-6 weeks on the road like most northern teams. This is no different than other D1 northern schools, but the...
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Re: Pop up Hitter Dad, the final chapter
Missed the original post by pop up. Have corresponded with him over the years. I know he had very high hopes for sons basebal and was never happy with it. Many timesI told him forget the baseball build the relationship and I guess from the responses there are still issues between them. Life goes fast. One of my best friends lost her only child almost two years ago and the journey has been tough. I wish all parents could not make baseball tbe defining point in their relationship. Hey we were...
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Re: JUCO…not good enough?
My answer to that is in my experience the kids who I have a known that went JUCO were almost always academic challenges. Possible that is not correct across the board but it has been my in experience. Well that and the see below, this is pasted directly from the 2nd link CBinsites provided. It doesn't ring of the academics i might be anticipating for college and I am not an HA guy. Community College Academic Entry Requ irements : One of the reasons why community college baseball is...
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Great Read
This is a great read from a long time coach and player. "Baseball Is Life Is Baseball" was inspired by a magical high school baseball season culminating in a State Championship. The lessons learned along the way serve as a recipe for success both on and off the field. The author uses his vast experience as teacher, coach, and player to list the ingredients and proper blending of them necessary to guarantee success. This is not a book of baseball fundamentals. It is about the many qualities...
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Re: 9 hole Pitchers Pockets
The good ones are $350 https://www.amazon.com/Basebal...ipment/dp/B00W81SDYE And unless you have an existing backstop, you'll also need something like this behind it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095826NQ5
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Re: Playing 2 sports
First, I played football, basketball and baseball in high school. I also skied on my own. I grew up in an era of play the sport in season. When the kids were little (daughter five years older than son) they were introduced to as many team and individual sports as possible based on the season. By high school my daughter (played college softball) played volleyball, basketball, ran second team 200m and 400m relays on Saturday nights for indoor track without practicing and softball. Because...