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What is parents role after an offer is made?
What is a reasonable time to evaluate an offer? What if an offer comes after a camp or showcase but without an "official" visit? Is it reasonable to request an official visit? What is the role of parent here? Should all contact be through HS/Club coach and son or is it appropriate for me to want to meet the coach and ask questions about the program myself directly before accepting an offer?
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Are you "THAT PARENT"!??
The subject of being "that parent" came up in a somewhat related thread. One person who commented, who is currently a player, suggested that we start a separate post just for that topic alone because his is dealing with his very own "that parent" situation. We are not denying a parent's love and devotion to their children. But sometimes we all know it can go too far. The tendency to micro manage every single aspect of your son's baseball career can easily set in, especially if you think that...
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No. I've won best baseball dad alive in my household ten of the last eleven years.
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Uncle Rico. I love it. My kid would have objected profusely if I was involved in any way in his HS sports. I just watch, eat seeds and pace the sidelines.
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Baseballparent23 - I suggest you have "That Parent" view Monte Lee's (Clemson) video in the following thread: http://community.hsbaseballweb...23#44938423099359223 By the time student athletes are playing HS ball it's time for Mom and Dad to back away and let the athlete handle it. All the parents are required to do is show up for game day and cheer The Team on. In the long run "hovering" doesn't help. My son's HS coach always held a preseason meeting the parents and athletes were required...
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In case y'all haven't had the pleasure of perusing this golden thread... http://community.hsbaseballweb...ool-baseball-watcher
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So, first of all, it wasn't me. Second, who's fault is this? The dad's? No. It's the coach's fault. He allows it. If he wanted to put an end to it he could in one afternoon. While I agree that common sense and dignity should prevail and these guys should recognize the correct answer, the coach is the co-conspirator in this. The longer I live, the more I realize that common sense isn't so common anymore.
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There are three different types of HS programs : A) Run buy the parents b) Run buy the players c) Run by the coaches If your son is in a proper program ran by the coaches the parents will know their role in high school baseball. Parents are to 'be seen but not heard' . No talking to the coaches about playing time or anything baseball related unless it involves a health issue. No coaching from behind the backstop during AB's and if it isn't obvious to you yet, stay out of the dugout and off...
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I can vouch for Go44. I keep coming in second. Fenway won the award the year Go44 didn't, btw.
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Our HS team is run by the coaches and supported by the parents. Coaches coach and parents run the concession stand, scoreboard, announce the games and in the summer collect the gate. We don't go in the dugout ever or for the love of baseball we don't go on the field. We are welcome to watch practice but we are not welcome to do anything more than watch. And since we still have 4 weeks until tryouts start I'll give you the craziest parent story I've personally witnessed. Last summer we are...
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OK, a more serious reply. Son was in a well run organization starting at 12. Head of org was an ex-High School coach. As well as training the kids to make their HS team, part of the goal was to train the parents. No parents on field before, during or after practice or games. Don't come to the dugout. Don't yell at umpires, say negative things to your kid during the game, don't get into it with other fans. Don't bring water, gatorades to the dugout. Don't ask about playing time. Some parents...
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I've seen THAT parent, and I always cringe for the kid. My job as a parent is to drive the car, write the checks, address any health issues, and remind my son to "SMILE, you are playing baseball" when I see him getting too serious.
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SOLID entertainment! And I thought nobody noticed some of the things I have done (and some I still do) LMAO
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Go I find that hard to beleive... You are being modest, no doubt it is eleven in a row!
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Talk about parents running the program -- Heard about a coach last year who lost his job after going 32-5 because the parents said he was too hard on the kids. They have since hired a football assistant who admits that he knows nothing about baseball as the head coach. I'm sure that is going to work out just fine in the end.
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Ok my serious response. It's old for those who have seen it before... As a coach I always invited parents to practice. Always welcomed them not in but around the dugout. I even invite them to post game talks. I say to parents "I shouldn't say anything to your kids I don't want you to hear" Because of all this openess I will give you one guess how many parents hover. Just about zero. There were a few but for the most part everyone was at ease just knowing they could and therefore didn't...
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I think I am pretty good about this. Never, ever, ever have talked to a coach about playing time or any other on field issue. I also don't carry the kid's bag. Only time I've been on the field is for senior night. Attend a HS practice? Heck no. My kids would kill me. However, on a really hot day, I will get a gatorade and throw it to my kid between innings. Does that make me a bad parent?
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There's no way around the Gatorade problem at LakePointe. You can't bring in coolers and sometimes there aren't any coolers in the dugout. But I guess you could let him dehydrate all in the name of not being labeled "that parent" by people who don't matter.
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Nice post 2020Dad! We have three or four of these type threads a year. I am convinced that some parents have been taking things too seriously for time immemorial. It's part of the human condition. I like your reverse-psychology take on things. Let parents know they are not forbidden from anything and most of them will leave you alone. Nothing wrong at all with a parent who wants to watch practice.
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I have been surprised at how many parents I see at college practices. Just this past weekend, I sat with the father of a junior who is likely to be a high draft pick and he told me he makes most practices. I guess a lot of that will depend on how close you are to the campus, but it didn't seem to be any big deal.
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A friend of the family is a freshmen at a Power 5 and the local parents regularly attend practices. Some parents from out of town will even go watch weekend practices.
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That is certainly your prerogative as a coach. Son's HS coach closed practices to parents as he didn't want any distractions. Yes, even just sitting in the stands or near the OF fence was a distraction as far as he was concerned. I trusted the coach and did not need to watch practices. The only time I was ever on the field was Senior Night. Never attended any of my son's college practice either, but then again his college was 4-5 hours away. Even if it had been local I would have never...
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College senior son's opening series is on the road this weekend... I checked to see what kind of weather they would be headed toward. I saw a strange blip - really nice the first day and then quite a bit colder the second. For a second, the thought crossed my mind to text him to pack the right clothes Still... ?? And I preach to HS parents at team meetings Good thing they never come here to witness my confessions.
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If you have a number of kids (I have 4), how can you have time to watch everybody's practices? I can barely make the games.
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Not only that Cleveland Dad, but if they have a complaint about something later on it is great ammunition... (for johnnysako we will lay off johnny and use jimmy!) so if little jimmy's dad comes over and starts complaining about jimmy not playing enough the response can go something like this: Well little jimmy never is in the right place, doesn't know the offense. As you know you are welcome to come watch for yourself. Then you will realize what he is doing on game night is NOT within the...
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Certainly good points. I'd like to watch practice. Used to do it in youth ball all the time. Like you said it's a "dad's club." But now in HS, my kid wants no part of it -- I am "embarrassment." His teammates will get on him. Maybe it's a sign of getting close to the season, but I am hankering to pick up a rake and work a field.
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I actually liked it when parents showed up and watched practice. Never changed a thing because parents were there. In fact, it was a way for us to show off that we were well organized and knew what we were doing. There was a freshman that I recruited and his grandfather would show up for every game and nearly every practice. He never got in the way and I never talked to him until one day he showed up early before anyone was there. We had rescheduled a practice time and of course he didn't...
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Dads in a HS dugout?? Are you kidding me? Best story I have.....we live in a small town in NW Ohio. Growing up our youth leagues were coached by dads (whose isn't right?)...myself included. We thought we did a pretty good job....trying to teach kids (and parents) about the game. My son and the group of kids his age and the year older were always pretty good and took the game pretty serious. One of my good friends coached and had a son a year older than my son. He got asked to come down to...
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PG nailed it! Perfect 10.0! I too have made friends of parents. Was just catching up with one last night, saw them at a game and had a nice chat. Believe it or not folks the coach and parent are not natural adversaries!!!
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Some good stuff here. Just to clarify, I think watching practice is fine. But not from inside the fence on the field, IN the dugout, attempting to be in the coachs' ear. Some may no agree, but I've never even heard of a high school around where I live that bans parents from any practice. Seemed kind of odd to me when someone mentioned it. FOXDAD, great post. Here's another video that was related which was also good.... https://youtu.be/JOdfG2XG4rU Anyway, this post wasn't meant to bring...
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My point is Mom and Dad need to let go and that also means trusting the coach with your son at practice. To me a parents' presence at practice sends an unwritten message to the coach that the parent doesn't completely trust the coach. To me, it's a matter of trust. Period. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure I watched my son's practices at the LL level and early travel ball, but not at the HS and college level. I don't need to see practice to believe the coach why another kid started in front...
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My son is a freshmen and our high school football practices were closed and baseball practices are open. Both happen right after school at 2:45 and I have a job so..... I have been to a few baseball intersquad scrimmages but wouldn't really care if the practices were closed. I think this, as usual, is a case of everyone feeling that their personal preference is the right way. IMO, the key to being a parent of an athlete is cutting the cord and allowing the kids to figure stuff out on their...
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You should coach the same no matter who is watching or not watching. I get the reasons behind not wanting to have anyone at practice, I really do. When I first started coaching that was my rule as well. But as time went on I changed my thinking for several reasons. To be honest the biggest reason was this. For some parents this will be the most they will ever see their son play in HS. They get to see him take bp, scrimmage, etc. For some its extremely enjoyable to hang out with the other...
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Wow, I have never thought of going to watch my sons practice. I was going to say that others parents don't as well, but realized that as I am not there I don't know for sure. Yes when he was a frosh, before he could drive, I would pick him up from practice. If I was a little early I would watch from the parking lot or the stands, but never from anywhere near the field. And that was like the last 10 minutes of practice. In fact, we are personal friends with his HS varsity coach. I have had...
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This is the first year 2018 will have his license during the spring season so I have no idea if I will go up to watch a practice. If we would have an unseasonably warm day in March I would go up early to watch because I had to pick him up anyway and it was a great excuse to be out in the weather. Now that I don't have to go up there I probably won't. But if it's mid to upper 70's in March I can't promise anything.
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This applies more to tournament ball than high school ball but son's college coach once mentioned a detail about our family in a conversation so I asked how he knew that. He replied, "I watched you several times at games before I ever approached your son." People always tell players, "you never know who is watching." That goes for us parents too.
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I have had parents in my classroom. Only a couple times but if they really want to see what is going on what do I care? What do I have to hide? I think our schools would be a whole lot better if parents had a whole lot more unfettered access to the classroom and not in a dog and pony planned way. If you knew how little learning is done in most of these schools you would be shocked. And maybe you would be singing a different tune about transparency. But let me turn this conversation around...
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good point....and I will tell you that a kid from my son's HS definitely lost any chance he had....though slim at best....of playing at any local colleges due to his dad being a complete nut case. Heck, he made a nationally televised TV show at one point due to his nuttiness....some of you may know who/what I'm talking about
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Bringing a drink to the dugout in HS ball doesn't necessarily make someone "that parent". But for sure it's not a good thing to do.
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Most parents with kids on my sons HS team bring drinks to them for the games. Some walk up to the edge of the dugout to drop them off, others will have the kids come to them. In general its to keep the kids from having to manage the drinks during the school day. Most parents will either drop off a large jug of water, or 3 or 4 gatorade bottles along with some kind of small snack. I guess I don't see much wrong with this. Maybe because its common practice here, but the kids have enough stuff...
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Thats right, if your kid drops out from dehydration I guess the team will be more than willing to pay the medical expenses. I've never understood that unwritten rule either.
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Question - which looks worse to a college recruiter a) parent tossing a kid a drink or b) kid leaving the dugout to go to the concessions to get one himself?
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I wasn't judging anyone. I could care less what anyone does. If parents want to sit in the dugout and hold hands with their kids and the coach doesn't care, fine by me. I expressed my opinion. If you disagree, that's fine. Whatever.
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I'm sure i brought a drink to my son at some point in HS before a game or brought something he forgot (not a whole batbag) but i was in and out or most of the time just tossed it to one of the players in the dugout. Never during a game. These loco parents give us helicopters a bad name.