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Hello, new member and somewhat new to scorekeeping for 14u team. I have some plays over the past few weeks that i'd like to get some opinions on if they are errors or not. I'm still a little unclear how much weight to give to "weather" when it comes to judging errors for the second and third situation. Thanks for any help. Situation #1: Fly ball hit a ball to the right field gap and a three-way collision ensues in the outfield between CF, RF and 2B, and ball drops. An error to the right...

IMO, No errors on any play. While the standard is ordinary effort, generally its interpreted as basically requiring the fielder either touch the ball or essentially have it go through him (e.g., infielder ball between his legs). Instance 1 was a miscommunication between three fielders; instance 2 was a player who will now never forget his sunglasses and use his glove to block the sun; instance 3 could be attributed to the weather. The good news is that the first two instances provide great...

None of those seem like routine plays 14u players would be expected make all of the time. I think if any of these plays are made the players gets a "ooh great catch". This is 14u ball and good teaching moments. I would mark them down as hits and remind the kids how to handle them better next time.

As Goosegg says, the standard is "ordinary effort." You have to make a subjective decision. Considering the totality of circumstances--where the fielder was positioned, where and how the ball was hit, and other factors in play like wind and sun--should a player of average ability at that level of baseball be able to make the play while exerting ordinary effort? One unofficial rule of thumb I use is to put myself in the position of the pitcher. Could the pitcher have reasonably expected the...

If you're the pitcher's dad: All three are errors. If you're the hitters' dad: All three are hits.

As a pitcher's dad, I often suspected scorekeepers of basing their decision on their assumption that it's better to call it a hit and have the pitcher's dad hate them than to call it an error and have both the hitter's dad and the fielder's dad hate them.

Situation 1: Hit. If caught it would have been a great play by any of the three players involved. Not an ordinary effort play. Situation 2: Hit. IT's exceptional effort to block the sun with the glove to make the play, especially at 14. Chances are, even with sunglasses it could have been difficult to catch. Situation 3: Hit. It would take exceptional effort to quickly calculate the wind and rain effect. If the player made the play everybody would have clapped, suggesting it wasn't an...

Thank you for all the responses. Great advice.

I have been keeping the book for years. I can't tell you the number of times I have had the "he should have had it" - "the standard is ordinary effort" conversation. However, this year, I have become frustrated by a first baseman who doesn't scoop well and never comes off the bag to block a ball. The throws could be better but a better first baseman would have cut the errors in half or at least held the runner at first instead of letting the ball get by him and the runner going to 2nd. All...

DadintheBox posted: …All this to say is that scoring is subjective and sometimes the wrong person is hit with the error (ex. SS makes a great play in the hole and throws off balance. Ball is a low throw that one hops. 1st baseman scoops and misses - E6. But a good 1B makes the play 9/10 times). ... I agree that a good F3 saves a lot of errors, but it doesn’t matter. Any throw that strikes the ground that would have put a runner out if it was caught, is an error on the thrower. OBR Rule...

I mentioned this before. I don't really sweat what the guy who does the book. writes down. A lot of time and at lower levels its a dad that means well or another player. Not exactly experienced score keeping. If your trying to keep track and record at the HS level for college recruiters, thats a different issue. at 14/u it really doesn't to much. My son's a catcher and I know what he should and shouldn't get to....I dont sweat if the pitcher spikes the ball two feet in front of the plate and...

This has been brought up time and time again, but HS stats are not reliable (Many times the official score book is kept by a parent or player in the dugout) and college coaches rarely (If ever) take them into account. What they do take into account is the player's tools. Not saying HS stats shouldn't be kept, but statistically the data set is too small to mean anything. Even at the college level where they play three times as many games in a season, the data set is not quite enough to mean...

@jme853 I have not seen a game canceled or postponed for high heat and even the mid-Atlantic lives at that temperature much of July and August. I recommend cooling towels with a cooler of ice water for the dugout. Also start hydrating the night before.

JME; The TEAM Manager can reduce the pre-game infield practice and use tee and wiffle balls for BP. Save the player's energy for the game. Stay on offense longer and achieve quick outs. No throwing the ball around after a out. Bob

Is the temp's are in the mid to upper 90's, can a tournament game be reschedule to a later time. My son has asthma, and I am concern of the mid afternoon high heat.

We've played tournaments in the afternoon in Surprise when it was 117. Stay hydrated, bring shade and in your case inhaler. Tournaments here in Texas have never rescheduled that I know of.

@jme853 , same, and remember to stay hydrated yourself. I remember only one game canceled due to heat and it was because the umpire had an emergent situation from heat. If we didn’t have games in 97+ we wouldn’t have many/any summer games down here. Good luck to your boy.

We once had a tournament in a terrible heatwave. People were advised to stay indoors. They actually closed the local race track - and this was on the weekend - because they were fearful of the horses dropping dead from the heat. Did they cancel the tournament? No. That would mean refunds and they would never to that... And my kid is a catcher. Totally soaked through the uniform before the 1st inning was over...like someone turned a fire hose on him.

If tournament games aren’t played as scheduled it screws up the entire day. With two kids playing softball and baseball I never saw games postponed for anything but rain and thunder. One year the state ASA championship was played in one day instead of three due to rain. We played eight games with 75 minute start inning limits between 8am and midnight. There weren’t any pool games. The team I was an assistant with lost the championship game. At that point the team attitude was, “Who cares!