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LOOKING FOR A 15U or 16U CLUB! COLORADO
I am looking for a 15u or 16u ball club in colorado. I reside in denver. I can play anywhere. Right handed.
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What is parents role after an offer is made?
What is a reasonable time to evaluate an offer? What if an offer comes after a camp or showcase but without an "official" visit? Is it reasonable to request an official visit? What is the role of parent here? Should all contact be through HS/Club coach and son or is it appropriate for me to want to meet the coach and ask questions about the program myself directly before accepting an offer?
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HS Fall League Tryouts taking place now - Sunnyvale
Texas Select Baseball Club is looking to add quality players to the fall league rosters. We are a small organization with professional coaches who work with our players to help further develop their skills to help them move on to the next level. To fill out a tryout form and find out more about us visit our team website at www.claysmithbaseball.com
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Dallas Tiger High School Baseball Tryouts, May 7
Texas high school baseball is coming to a close and we have a few remaining roster spots available on a number of our Majors level Dallas Tiger summer high school teams. We are looking for both position and pitcher-only players. This could be an excellent opportunity for young men to receive the best visibility to college and professional scouts. Many of the best high school tournaments are invitation only throughout the region and country. Getting the best looks for our high school players...
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Club or HS for summer
Here's the scenario, there is a kid who is a big kid who hits well and has a strong arm. Throws across the diamond low 80's, pitches in the mid to upper 80's. Strong hitter, but struggles on defense, hasn't played 3rd for very long. Some college coaches have expressed interest as a pitcher, mostly NAIA and D3 and they want to see him pitch this summer. High school coach likes his bat, and has said he will not pitch him (big school, deep in pitching). High School coach also feels strongly...
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HS Summer Showcase Team Tryouts!
Professionally coached Texas Select Baseball Club is looking to add talent our High School summer showcase teams. Our practice field is located in Sunnyvale, just east of Dallas. Visit our team website for more information and to fill out a tryout form at www.claysmithbaseball.com
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DFW (Texas) Summer Showcase Team Tryouts!
Professionally coached Texas Select Baseball Club is looking to add talent our High School summer showcase teams. Our practice field is located in Sunnyvale, just east of Dallas. Visit our team website for more information and to fill out a tryout form at www.claysmithbaseball.com
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Club will maximize the opportunities for this player. He's a 2018? Big difference between expressing interest to play in college vs. determined to play in college, might want to get that clarified... We had a similar sort of thing happen with our HS Coach the past August. HS Coach sent out an email stating all HS Varsity players will play with his Legion team for the summer, and not their club team. I called the coach: told him our son had already committed to play for his club program and...
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HOW strongly does HS coach feel about players playing summer with him? What is the summer season? How competitive is the HS travel program? Can he play travel afterward? Does he play other sports/football? Does he work with a P instructor? What year is he? What is your role in the relationship? You said he just started playing 3b... how much potential for improvement is there? If HS coach feels very strongly about players participating in summer program, be very careful. Also, with the...
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Good points Cabbage. I should add to my post that son had always played Legion along with his Club ball for previous two years. This was the first time the HS Coach said "you will all play Legion with me and no Club." My son was fortunate that he was a starter with both solid defensive and offensive skills. The HS Coach could have very easily left my son on the bench during HS season to make his point. It could have been dicey, and agree you've got to be careful. We thought is was a risk...
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You say big kid, strong hitter, biggish arm .... Stop right there. Those attributes will get him lots of looks especially at D3 -- but also at higher levels. You say weak defense -- okay he's not going to be a MIF or play CF. (Can he run?) But a big sticks speak loudly especially when wielded by a big body. Defense -- that can be improved with work. But sounds like he has that thing that college coaches love above all else - -- MAN STRENGTH -- especially when its accompanied by a swing that...
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Is "both" at all a feasible option? Hitter on the school team. Starting pitcher only on club team and not attending club games he's not scheduled to pitch.
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Lots of great feedback, let me answer some questions to see if that changes anyone's opinion. The father is my brother in law, known him forever, played high school football with him. Kid is 6' 2" about 180 - 190 (father is much, much bigger). Kid was a catcher when he was younger, didn't like catching after he got a little bigger. As far as playing 3rd, he made a ton of errors this season, but he is settling in. For the high school coach, he wants full buy in for his team. Totally...
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Do you know how long the HS summer season is? Ours is only about five weeks, depending on playoffs. Still time to pursue travel afterward, particularly for good P's. What I really like about Gov's second post is that it shows how valuable good communication with coach is. Even if player doesn't like the answer he hears, I have a gut feeling this would be the best avenue. Have player ask to sit with HS coach and explain his situation, that he loves his role on the team and is committed but...
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Play high school in the summer and Showcase in the late summer/fall. Travel Teams are, to me, more of a necessary evil and a huge ripoff at some academies. I get that they have their place but with Showcases and college camps you don't have to go that route
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I was a travel coach...a lot of my guys played Legion also...we didn't start until after Legion (immediately after). Depending on what area of the country you are in, explore possibility of playing for the school summer team and a later summer/fall travel team. Fall of senior year is prime time D2/D3 recruiting season. Arm overuse shouldn't be an issue since he is not pitching on school team. Perhaps he could catch on as a PO and only attend games he is pitching. A lot of travel teams...
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I agree with 3and2 that he has to find a way to do both HS and travel/showcases. He can even sign-up at the showcases as a Pitcher Only. But lots of them will let him do both and you never know if a coach might like his bat better than his pitching. If he is an academic kid, get him to either Headfirst or Showball. If possible do HF in August (should be after HS Summer) and then Showball in November. As many of us have experienced here, lots of kids wind up playing a different position in...
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Tough spot to be in. Not doing exactly what a overbearing coach wants can cause problems as my son now deals with. 2018 grad, made jv team as 8th grader as pitcher/ catcher. Freshman yr varsity coach wanted him to go to outside pitching coach. Son liked pitching but prefered catching. Took catching lessons, played catcher on showcase team summer after freshman yr and committed to D1 school that fall. Coach never talked to my wife and I during recruting process. Coach and son relationship is...
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OK, Manman, it looks like maaayyyybe you didn't buy into everyone's advice and perspective from your original thread. Some tough questions for you... Why do you think such a good kid who is a D1 caliber player has a bad relationship with his successful HS coach? Why did your kid not talk to the HS coach before going a completely different direction than what he was instructed to do? Do you think you are helping or hurting your son in the process at the present time? BTW, if you think the HS...
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Great advice everyone. Appreciate the communication. I plan to relay this advice to my friend tonight, but I'm taking credit for it. Ha ha.
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This is what I would push for. My son will be a PO for his club team and supplement his position play and hitting with his AAA Legion team. If there is any way to work it out, this, in my opinion, is the best case scenario.
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Re: What is parents role after an offer is made?
It is appropriate for you to want to meet the coach and ask questions...to an extent. The baseball related questions and questions about the program should be asked by your son. It would be appropriate for you to sit in on this discussion and ask any questions not answered. It is 100% acceptable for you to ask questions related directly to the offer and the financial side of the offer as you are paying for school. IMO no offer should be accepted without a visit to the school. Official or...
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If you ignore the baseball part, how would you handle your kid saying I want to go to school X? You'd probably want to be ok with that decision - academics, social, financial, etc. So I would certainly want to visit with son and make sure it was the right place for him. Regarding the baseball side, once my son established a relationship with the coach he handled all communication and kept us and his travel & HS coaches informed. When things looked like an offer was coming from a school...
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What is a reasonable time to evaluate an offer? - Reasonable should be spelled out by the offeror. I've seen offers with no time limit, and I've seen 72 hour offers. It depends. What if an offer comes after a camp or showcase but without an "official" visit? Is it reasonable to request an official visit? - It is more than reasonable to request an official or unofficial visit depending on the date, time line, and availability of official visit slots. Unofficial visits are more likely since...
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I think it is very reasonable to talk to the coach. It is also reasonable to have a visit. The tricky part is age. If your son is young, it may not be an athletic visit, but your son should see the school. A lot of programs have developed work around a so you can see the facilities as well. Two of the coaches that offered my son over the phone asked to set up a call to talk to us. I think it makes everyone more comfortable to know you are all on the same page.
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Thank you. It was the schools own camp so he has met the whole staff including head coach, and he did a self tour of the campus as there were no official tours being held. Any financial offer would be academic as we were informed prior to attending camp that all 2019 scholarship money has been allocated but it is a school he would like to play at and would be happy to attend even if he didn't get to play ball. Just wasn't sure what my role was in the process. Don't want to over step and give...
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My middle son committed to a school he had never attended. (I don't recommend it) It was a military school and he had no clue what he was committing to but was positive that was where he wanted to be. His travel catcher was going there and the coaches recruited him hard and heavy. He did tell my youngest that he would not let him go there under any circumstances and that had nothing to do with baseball and all to do with the way the school was run and his bad experience. With my youngest...
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Fenway, I love the "backseat voice of reason." - that is perfect. Reasonable time to evaluate offer? Easy one, if it's where he wants to go to school and play ball, a quick answer is fine. If you need to mull it over or are making a decision on multiple offers, my opinion is 30 days is reasonable because those coaches are going to need to fill that slot with a guy as high as they can get on their board. Time is money...and it also depends on where you are in the recruiting cycle. D1s want to...
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There was a discussion about this a while back. Most offers are made in dollar amounts not percentages. I know when I ran track in college back in the 80s/90s everything was discussed in terms of dollars, I don't ever recall talking to a coach, or a teammate about percentages. I think most folks convert dollars to percentages just to make the conversations to others easier as well as mask the actual amount
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My 2 cents, what I did. Look at the financial side of the offer, look at the financial risk* of the offer, look for red flags. Then tell son the school qualifies with me or not. Then talk son through the decision making process. Pro's / con's of this school, P / C of accepting offer, countering offer, waiting for other offers, possibly going to a JUCO or just waiting. Talk through the whole list of things I learned from this board, reading other materials and talking to others. Coaching...
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To answer the original questions. Yes. You should meet with the coach and go on the school tours. Let son arrange the visit itself but once you're there feel free to ask questions about the school and the program. But try to let the kid do the talking. See if the school is fully funded and see what the scholarship covers. Is it tuition, tuition/board, tuition/board/books/etc? I also wouldn't ask for an official visit as they are reserved for committed seniors right before signing day As for...
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My son's offers were all percentages. One coach even mentioned that the cost goes up almost every year and guessed what tuition might be when my son got there, and he told us what percentage they would pay. I'm also surprised that a week seems reasonable to some. Unless it was your dream school, it is a big decision. A week is pretty fast and I wouldn't think a school would ask a kid to decide that quickly, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I was talking about it from the coach's perspective. A week or two is more than reasonable. If they told us we needed an answer right then we would've walked. If it takes longer than a couple weeks they can probably assume you're still hunting for a better offer. In 2019s case the schools that knew they were reaching in terms of the talent gave him all the time he needed. But the higher profile schools said 7-10 days or we're going to offer the next in line. Wanted him sure, but they could...
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Middle son got 24 hours at his #1. Couldn't afford it. They told him they had 5 guys for one spot left and he was #1 but there were 4 others. Hardest thing to say no to. Youngest son had no pressure until the end of the summer and coach just asked how much more time he needed. Was given 2 months. I had a friend's son who was at WWBA and his #1 school, P5, made him offer and gave him until the end of the day. RC said you were our #3 guy before that outing and now we want to make you X offer.
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So my 2020 just received an offer from a school on his short list. We plan on accepting. I know that this is non-binding until he can sign an NLI, so will anything be put into writing before that? Would it be appropriate for me to send an email summarizing my understanding? (I've found that applying common business practices to the baseball world doesn't always work.)
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I don’t know that you will get that, I think it is appropriate to ask for a phone call with the coach to go over things but I don’t know that you’ll get anything in writing. We never saw anything in writing
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With my daughter's volleyball offer we did not put anything in writing before the NLI arrived. I would have liked to of course, but it didn't "feel" right - if you know what I mean? So we just waited in good faith for the NLI, and it was consistent with the verbal offer. An email may not be perceived in the way intended and probably is out of the ordinary. On its face it seems very legitimate, fair and reasonable, but it just may not be received well by the Coach b/c it is out of the...
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It is my understanding that nothing gets put in writing until NLI and the financial agreement. Email is in writing and most likely will result in nothing written. If a coach offers, and all things stay the same, most follow through for the NLI & FA.
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I believe this is where a lot of kids go wrong. Getting an offer and accepting is just an opportunity. The challenge is still on and it gets harder. It’s harder for the player to prove he belongs in the program than it is to get the offer. Half the players each year fail to prove they belong in the program.
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Some great responses in my opinion. Love Fenways comments and RJ it the nail on the head in his last post concerning that issue. Every situation is different. A reasonable time frame is what the coaching staff decides is reasonable to them. In some cases you may have a lot of time to decide. In other cases it needs to be made rather quickly. This all depends on what the coaching staff needs to do. If your son is a guy they feel they really have to have that time frame may be extended a great...
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College club team reminder
Based on recent talks with a client, here's a reminder about NCAA rules regarding club team participation. An athlete will be charged with a season of eligibility by the NCAA if they competed on a club team at a college or university that sponsored both a varsity team and a club team in the same sport. This applies even if the club (or "JV") team participation was at the JUCO level. In that situation, an athlete who plays on the club or JV team will be using a season of eligibility if they...
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Agree! Rick's post is exactly the reason if a serious NCAA question arises, ask the expert!