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Visit
I am going on a visit to a school I have interest in. Have attended prospect camps in past where the coach has been there. Emailed the recruiting coordinator a week or two ago expressing interest in school but said nothing about the visit. Should I...
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What is parents role after an offer is made?
What is a reasonable time to evaluate an offer? What if an offer comes after a camp or showcase but without an "official" visit? Is it reasonable to request an official visit? What is the role of parent here? Should all contact be through HS/Club coach and son or is it appropriate for me to want to meet the coach and ask questions about the program myself directly before accepting an offer?
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Lessons Learned on Unofficial Visits?
My 1B/3B/RHP 2019 is headed to first "real" unofficial visit (not counting a couple of campus discussions with coaches) in a couple of weeks with a high academic D1. Meeting with HC, RC and invited to watch practice. I've searched this topic, and there are some great questions to ask and advice for parents on how to stay in the background but get those key questions addressed. I'd like to raise the topic again to see if anyone who has been through it recently has additional perspective for...
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Midwest Mom, My best advice is to treat this like a 2nd or 3rd date. Clearly they are interested and clearly your son is interested. It is time to really focus in on the relationship, and expectations. So, I think the best way to understand all of this to put a timeline on it. So, my son would ask the coach about the remaining recruiting timeline, expectations and requirements. You mentioned D1 high academic so I would make sure your son has all the boxes checked or ask what remains to be...
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I would pay close attention to what they say and how the coaches act toward your son. But, most importantly, I would advise to go into this "eyes wide open". You never know where your son is currently or ultimately will be on this school's "board" or overall spectrum of recruits. It literally could be anywhere from (a) he is their top priority at his position and they just want to see him one or two more times and make sure he has the academic record they need to (b) he could be just one of...
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Thanks, Fenway, for the insight! This thread is well-timed for us as well, as 2020 son has first unofficial visit in a couple of weeks. In his case, his new organization connected him and his teammate/friend with asst coach, who talked to each and then invited them to campus. I'm not sure they've really seen him play beyond any video our "recruiting coordinator" sent them, so I'm pretty sure "offer" will not be mentioned anywhere in the conversation, but son is excited nonetheless and should...
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Don't forget the academics. We did probably 15 or so UVs and on every one (at least the first trip) we also did the typical admissions visit, along with a tour and meeting with faculty in my son's preferred majors. He usually sat in on a class. He needed to decide if the school was a right fit, not just if baseball was.
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If you are going to visit a high academic and your son has not taken the SAT/ACT, they may not offer on the visit or they tell you they are giving you a "soft" offer contingent on his taking the test and getting a score with which they can work with the admissions department. My son is in that boat at two schools. Based on our experience thus far, if you are going to a power 5, the only way you can be assured you are getting an offer is 1)You are confident the head coach has seen you play;...
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Yes, if you are interested in learning more about the program. Give them your tour schedule and request available time. If they aren't available you may want to stick around and watch a practice. It never hurts to get as much information as possible.
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It is appropriate for you to want to meet the coach and ask questions...to an extent. The baseball related questions and questions about the program should be asked by your son. It would be appropriate for you to sit in on this discussion and ask any questions not answered. It is 100% acceptable for you to ask questions related directly to the offer and the financial side of the offer as you are paying for school. IMO no offer should be accepted without a visit to the school. Official or...
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If you ignore the baseball part, how would you handle your kid saying I want to go to school X? You'd probably want to be ok with that decision - academics, social, financial, etc. So I would certainly want to visit with son and make sure it was the right place for him. Regarding the baseball side, once my son established a relationship with the coach he handled all communication and kept us and his travel & HS coaches informed. When things looked like an offer was coming from a school...
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What is a reasonable time to evaluate an offer? - Reasonable should be spelled out by the offeror. I've seen offers with no time limit, and I've seen 72 hour offers. It depends. What if an offer comes after a camp or showcase but without an "official" visit? Is it reasonable to request an official visit? - It is more than reasonable to request an official or unofficial visit depending on the date, time line, and availability of official visit slots. Unofficial visits are more likely since...
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I think it is very reasonable to talk to the coach. It is also reasonable to have a visit. The tricky part is age. If your son is young, it may not be an athletic visit, but your son should see the school. A lot of programs have developed work around a so you can see the facilities as well. Two of the coaches that offered my son over the phone asked to set up a call to talk to us. I think it makes everyone more comfortable to know you are all on the same page.
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Thank you. It was the schools own camp so he has met the whole staff including head coach, and he did a self tour of the campus as there were no official tours being held. Any financial offer would be academic as we were informed prior to attending camp that all 2019 scholarship money has been allocated but it is a school he would like to play at and would be happy to attend even if he didn't get to play ball. Just wasn't sure what my role was in the process. Don't want to over step and give...
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My middle son committed to a school he had never attended. (I don't recommend it) It was a military school and he had no clue what he was committing to but was positive that was where he wanted to be. His travel catcher was going there and the coaches recruited him hard and heavy. He did tell my youngest that he would not let him go there under any circumstances and that had nothing to do with baseball and all to do with the way the school was run and his bad experience. With my youngest...
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Fenway, I love the "backseat voice of reason." - that is perfect. Reasonable time to evaluate offer? Easy one, if it's where he wants to go to school and play ball, a quick answer is fine. If you need to mull it over or are making a decision on multiple offers, my opinion is 30 days is reasonable because those coaches are going to need to fill that slot with a guy as high as they can get on their board. Time is money...and it also depends on where you are in the recruiting cycle. D1s want to...
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There was a discussion about this a while back. Most offers are made in dollar amounts not percentages. I know when I ran track in college back in the 80s/90s everything was discussed in terms of dollars, I don't ever recall talking to a coach, or a teammate about percentages. I think most folks convert dollars to percentages just to make the conversations to others easier as well as mask the actual amount
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My 2 cents, what I did. Look at the financial side of the offer, look at the financial risk* of the offer, look for red flags. Then tell son the school qualifies with me or not. Then talk son through the decision making process. Pro's / con's of this school, P / C of accepting offer, countering offer, waiting for other offers, possibly going to a JUCO or just waiting. Talk through the whole list of things I learned from this board, reading other materials and talking to others. Coaching...
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To answer the original questions. Yes. You should meet with the coach and go on the school tours. Let son arrange the visit itself but once you're there feel free to ask questions about the school and the program. But try to let the kid do the talking. See if the school is fully funded and see what the scholarship covers. Is it tuition, tuition/board, tuition/board/books/etc? I also wouldn't ask for an official visit as they are reserved for committed seniors right before signing day As for...
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My son's offers were all percentages. One coach even mentioned that the cost goes up almost every year and guessed what tuition might be when my son got there, and he told us what percentage they would pay. I'm also surprised that a week seems reasonable to some. Unless it was your dream school, it is a big decision. A week is pretty fast and I wouldn't think a school would ask a kid to decide that quickly, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I was talking about it from the coach's perspective. A week or two is more than reasonable. If they told us we needed an answer right then we would've walked. If it takes longer than a couple weeks they can probably assume you're still hunting for a better offer. In 2019s case the schools that knew they were reaching in terms of the talent gave him all the time he needed. But the higher profile schools said 7-10 days or we're going to offer the next in line. Wanted him sure, but they could...
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Middle son got 24 hours at his #1. Couldn't afford it. They told him they had 5 guys for one spot left and he was #1 but there were 4 others. Hardest thing to say no to. Youngest son had no pressure until the end of the summer and coach just asked how much more time he needed. Was given 2 months. I had a friend's son who was at WWBA and his #1 school, P5, made him offer and gave him until the end of the day. RC said you were our #3 guy before that outing and now we want to make you X offer.
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So my 2020 just received an offer from a school on his short list. We plan on accepting. I know that this is non-binding until he can sign an NLI, so will anything be put into writing before that? Would it be appropriate for me to send an email summarizing my understanding? (I've found that applying common business practices to the baseball world doesn't always work.)
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I don’t know that you will get that, I think it is appropriate to ask for a phone call with the coach to go over things but I don’t know that you’ll get anything in writing. We never saw anything in writing
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With my daughter's volleyball offer we did not put anything in writing before the NLI arrived. I would have liked to of course, but it didn't "feel" right - if you know what I mean? So we just waited in good faith for the NLI, and it was consistent with the verbal offer. An email may not be perceived in the way intended and probably is out of the ordinary. On its face it seems very legitimate, fair and reasonable, but it just may not be received well by the Coach b/c it is out of the...
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It is my understanding that nothing gets put in writing until NLI and the financial agreement. Email is in writing and most likely will result in nothing written. If a coach offers, and all things stay the same, most follow through for the NLI & FA.
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I believe this is where a lot of kids go wrong. Getting an offer and accepting is just an opportunity. The challenge is still on and it gets harder. It’s harder for the player to prove he belongs in the program than it is to get the offer. Half the players each year fail to prove they belong in the program.
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Some great responses in my opinion. Love Fenways comments and RJ it the nail on the head in his last post concerning that issue. Every situation is different. A reasonable time frame is what the coaching staff decides is reasonable to them. In some cases you may have a lot of time to decide. In other cases it needs to be made rather quickly. This all depends on what the coaching staff needs to do. If your son is a guy they feel they really have to have that time frame may be extended a great...