Here's one I've seen:
6 AM-breakfast/weight training
8 AM-2PM-classes
3PM-5:30 PM-practice
6 PM-Dinner
7PM-9PM-study hall
10:30 PM-lights out
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quote:10:30 PM-lights out
quote:Originally posted by Bulldog 19:
There aren't many college students who make it to bed by 10:30 each night. I'd be surprised if many athletes were able to do it..
quote:Originally posted by OLDSLUGGER8:quote:Originally posted by Bulldog 19:
There aren't many college students who make it to bed by 10:30 each night. I'd be surprised if many athletes were able to do it..
The right track are in the minority.
Most change majors.quote:As a freshman, it was hard to get the "better" lab times which were earlier in the day. What do the athletes/ coaches do when classes and practices conflict?
quote:I am not so sure about the 10:30, not sure son ever hit the bed at 10:30 unless he was pitching the next day in college and never a curfew except on weekends. Coaches know and want their players to experience most aspects of college and that includes socialization.
quote:What I have found is that some coaches work the kids too hard so they will be exhausted and not want to do anything else, that means less trouble to get into and I understand that.
quote:My response in this thread was to the poster who asked "who would curfew 18-21 year old men"?
The recent thread about the Cressey article got me thinking about pitching routines in college, especially during the fall (how much do they throw and when do they stop and start back). Did some searching and did not find much specific about pitching, but ran across this general post about fall schedules. Was wondering if anyone wanted to update with their son's fall schedule as well as add specifics about throwing during the fall, either as a new freshman or a returning player that may or may not have pitched during the summer.
My son's weekday schedule last fall was something close to this
8am - 2pm Class
2pm - 5pm Practice or conditioning/lifting (some days 1-2 hours....some all 3)
6pm - 8pm (3 days/week) Study table with all the other freshman players
Pretty much the same schedule this spring if it wasn't a game day....but study table was not mandatory due to his fall semester GPA
I know this is about fall.....but here's an example of what he wasn't prepared for....and what really put him in a time crunch this spring. We knew it was a busy time.....but that's an understatement.
This is for a weekday DH 160 miles from his school
7:00am Leave
1:00pm DH
11:00pm Return to school (actually ended up being 11:40)
Single weekday game - 200 miles from school
9:00 am Leave
3:05pm Game
10:00 Return to school (ended up almost 11:00)
--Keep in mind, class the next day 8:00am
To 2017LHPSCREWBALL - I assume, from a quick perusal of this topic, that you are asking about D1, but whether D1 or D3, coaches will expect pitchers to come in ready to start throwing in fall games. In other words, really no time to ramp up. So if your son did not play during the summer, he will need to keep up a throwing routine to have his arm ready. He could certainly take a break from game type throwing after his spring season (in my opinion) but needs to get back with it in time to be in shape for games once he gets to campus in the fall. If not playing summer ball, it may be a good time to be working with his pitching coach, assuming he has one.
Sort of a follow up on my question. What is the "schedule" between fall and spring? Do practices fall off towards the end of the fall semester - or do they go right up to then end of semester? Do pitchers continue to pitch into November and beyond at 100%, or do they get down time. Knowing when things get ramped back up in the spring, I don't imagine there is much down time for pitchers once school gets back in session. To word differently, how many weeks did you son stop throwing and and specifically which calendar weeks?
Are you asking about D1 or D3? My son played at a D3 school, so if D1, someone else could offer more useful info.
Lifting and practice the same day every day? Are they doing 5lb curls?
for my son (D1)
freshman year (last year). he was expected to come into fall ready to compete and he did. he pitched summer ball between HS and college until first week of July, stopped pitching for 4 weeks (but worked out a lot, still played ball as a position player). then went back at it pitching 2nd week of August. Practice started 1st week of September. Daily specific workouts including pitching until first weekend of November. Then they were shut down from any pitching entire month of November. No organized team practices until January, but he started throwing and ramping up starting 3rd week of December.
Sophomore year. he had pitched summer ball all summer from 2 days after college season ended until mid August. When he got back to school 3rd week August, they shut him down for a month. They knew him and what role they expected him to compete for. Starting throwing in earnest from mid September thru October. Then same routine as freshman year.
Really no official practice from end of October until sometime in early January (There are specific practice dates for D1 to end in fall and start in January). Doesn't mean they don't work out every day. In fact, if they do not have a specific work out routine, when they get back from winter break, they will be way far behind and may not catch up IMO. But the actual pitching ends for about 8 weeks.
I personally am interested in D1 type schedules, but curios as to differences with D3. 2017's summer this year will likely be less intense than prior summers but get in lots of strength training and hopefully enough regular pitching. Thinking high school catcher friend may be key in getting in some regular bullpen work. From what CHEFMIKE outlines, I guess 2017 will have to get some momentum going into late summer next year and carry that through the fall. No official summer program before freshman year, but have heard about a few programs that actually get the kid onto campus during the summer as an early orientation session such that there is less campus-shock come fall.
As far as D3, I don't know if it varies by conference, but for my son's conference (Centennial), a limit of, I believe, it was either 15 or 16 official practices or games could be held during September and October. At my son't school all of these were used for games, as I assume was the case throughout the conference. After that, as in D1 outlined above, unofficial workouts continued, but were supervised by upperclassmen rather than coaches. For pitchers, that would have primarily been strength, speed, etc., specific to their needs. No team workouts, including throwing, would have begun until players reported back for classes in January, so a little later than indicated in the D1 schedule outlined above. And of course, the number of games played in the spring is different - around 40 for D3 vs. around 60 (?) for D1. In 2016, my son's alma mater carried 12 pitchers on the roster, three of whom were also listed as both pitchers and position players. If you compare this to Stanford, for example, who carried 18 pitchers on their roster, then the relative number of pitchers and games may have worked out to similar workloads per pitcher over the spring for D3 vs D1? (If you just divide it out, it comes to exactly 3.33 games/pitcher at both levels, although that is probably an oversimplification.