Equity in Athletics Player Participation

CollegeBaseballInsights - No doubt this is great tool that can be used many ways.

Ten years ago when I was using Equity in Athletics website it was as a comparison tool to check a program's budget for recruiting and operating expenses.   I wanted to understand what kind of financial resources colleges and universities were throwing into their baseball program as many were self-funded.   For the schools my son was considering the number of participation players was mostly irrelevant as it was typically in the low 30s.   There was a large budget discrepancy between D1 Ivy & D1 Patriot versus D3s engineering schools.   Just another one of those things to consider when you are making a big financial family decision and this data is available.

JMO.

Are numbers in excess of 35 a result of redshirt players?  Is there any other way to have more than 35 participate?

Smitty28 posted:

Are numbers in excess of 35 a result of redshirt players?  Is there any other way to have more than 35 participate?

I would assume it's a combo of players on medical waivers not counting against roster spots and scholarship players who left at some point during the school year and were replaced by walk on guys. So 4 scholarship players transfer, academically inelligible, etc and are replaced by 4 walk-ons that number is now 39. 

Here is why it could be important, if you are researching schools, you will want to know if there is a pattern.  Understanding those student-athletes and parents that have done their homework and have read many articles, once they are able to quickly compare some historical trends, they will be able to determine if the situation is good for them.  Note, there is no right anwser, just another data point.

In 2018, Jacksonville state  difference was   35/39

In 2017   difference was 31/39

Another interesting example.

It could be a talking point during the recruiting process.

Wichita State 2018

Wichita State 2017

CollegebaseballInsights posted:

The Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act (EADA) was designed to make prospective students and prospective student-athletes aware of an institution of higher education’s commitment to providing equitable athletic opportunities for its men and women students. The EADA requires the disclosure of information about varsity teams and the financial resources and personnel that the school dedicates to those teams.

The EADA Report must be published by October 15 each year and must be made available upon request to students, prospective students, and the public.

The 2019 data collection survey closes Nov 1.

Information is normally available by Dec 15 via Equity in Athletics Data Analytics

 

 

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:

(A) Are listed by the institution on the varsity team's roster;

(B) Receive athletically related student aid; or

(C) Practice with the varsity team and receive coaching from one or more varsity coaches. A student who satisfies one or more of these criteria is a participant, including a student on a team the institution designates or defines as junior varsity, freshman, or novice, or a student withheld from competition to preserve eligibility (i.e., a redshirt), or for academic, medical, or other reasons. This includes fifth-year team members who have already received a bachelor's degree.

Below are the list of NCAA-D1 baseball programs that in 2018 had more than 35 players participate.

Note,

Here are 2018 participation numbers. 

Alabama A & M University	47
Alabama State University	38
Jacksonville State University	39
Samford University	40
Troy University	37
University of Arizona	40
University of Arkansas	41
California Baptist University	38
California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo	36
California State University-Long Beach	36
California State University-Northridge	40
University of California-Berkeley	39
University of California-Davis	36
University of California-Los Angeles	36
University of California-Riverside	36
University of California-Santa Barbara	38
Loyola Marymount University	42
Pepperdine University	37
University of Connecticut	39
University of North Florida	37
Georgia Southern University	41
Georgia State University	40
Mercer University	41
Savannah State University	38
Eastern Illinois University	39
Illinois State University	39
Butler University	38
Indiana University-Bloomington	43
University of Notre Dame	37
University of Iowa	40
University of Kansas	41
Kansas State University	41
Wichita State University	43
University of Kentucky	43
University of Louisville	37
Morehead State University	36
Western Kentucky University	38
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College	36
McNeese State University	36
University of Louisiana at Monroe	45
Southeastern Louisiana University	38
Southern University and A & M College	41
University of Louisiana at Lafayette	44
Tulane University of Louisiana	41
Boston College	36
University of Massachusetts-Lowell	38
University of Massachusetts-Amherst	36
Northeastern University	37
Central Michigan University	37
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor	37
Jackson State University	36
University of Southern Mississippi	36
University of Missouri-Columbia	43
Southeast Missouri State University	42
Missouri State University-Springfield	36
University of Nebraska-Lincoln	39
University of Nevada-Reno	39
Monmouth University	36
University of New Mexico-Main Campus	37
New Mexico State University-Main Campus	46
Canisius College	42
Fordham University	37
Marist College	36
St Bonaventure University	36
Campbell University	37
Duke University	39
Elon University	37
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill	49
North Carolina State University at Raleigh	39
University of North Carolina Wilmington	36
North Dakota State University-Main Campus	37
Kent State University at Kent	37
Miami University-Oxford	36
Youngstown State University	37
Oklahoma State University-Main Campus	37
University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus	39
Oregon State University	38
University of Oregon	40
La Salle University	36
Lafayette College	38
Lehigh University	36
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus	37
University of Rhode Island	36
Citadel Military College of South Carolina	38
Furman	39
Presbyterian College	42
University of South Carolina-Columbia	38
Austin Peay State University	37
Middle Tennessee State University	37
The University of Tennessee-Knoxville	39
Vanderbilt University	37
Baylor University	41
Texas A & M University-Corpus Christi	36
University of the Incarnate Word	42
Rice University	40
Texas A & M University-College Station	37
The University of Texas at Arlington	38
The University of Texas at Austin	41
Texas Tech University	36
Brigham Young University-Provo	38
James Madison University	38
Norfolk State University	40
Marshall University	36
West Virginia University	37
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee	37
Stanford University	36

Nice info to have. However, I have to question the accuracy. Where is Coastal Carolina?  Certainly they had more than 35 participants as per the definition you provided. 

RoadRunner posted:

CollegebaseballInsights posted:

The Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act (EADA) was designed to make prospective students and prospective student-athletes aware of an institution of higher education’s commitment to providing equitable athletic opportunities for its men and women students. The EADA requires the disclosure of information about varsity teams and the financial resources and personnel that the school dedicates to those teams.

The EADA Report must be published by October 15 each year and must be made available upon request to students, prospective students, and the public.

The 2019 data collection survey closes Nov 1.

Information is normally available by Dec 15 via Equity in Athletics Data Analytics

 

 

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:

(A) Are listed by the institution on the varsity team's roster;

(B) Receive athletically related student aid; or

(C) Practice with the varsity team and receive coaching from one or more varsity coaches. A student who satisfies one or more of these criteria is a participant, including a student on a team the institution designates or defines as junior varsity, freshman, or novice, or a student withheld from competition to preserve eligibility (i.e., a redshirt), or for academic, medical, or other reasons. This includes fifth-year team members who have already received a bachelor's degree.

Below are the list of NCAA-D1 baseball programs that in 2018 had more than 35 players participate.

Note,

Here are 2018 participation numbers. 

Alabama A & M University	47
Alabama State University	38
Jacksonville State University	39
Samford University	40
Troy University	37
University of Arizona	40
University of Arkansas	41
California Baptist University	38
California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo	36
California State University-Long Beach	36
California State University-Northridge	40
University of California-Berkeley	39
University of California-Davis	36
University of California-Los Angeles	36
University of California-Riverside	36
University of California-Santa Barbara	38
Loyola Marymount University	42
Pepperdine University	37
University of Connecticut	39
University of North Florida	37
Georgia Southern University	41
Georgia State University	40
Mercer University	41
Savannah State University	38
Eastern Illinois University	39
Illinois State University	39
Butler University	38
Indiana University-Bloomington	43
University of Notre Dame	37
University of Iowa	40
University of Kansas	41
Kansas State University	41
Wichita State University	43
University of Kentucky	43
University of Louisville	37
Morehead State University	36
Western Kentucky University	38
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College	36
McNeese State University	36
University of Louisiana at Monroe	45
Southeastern Louisiana University	38
Southern University and A & M College	41
University of Louisiana at Lafayette	44
Tulane University of Louisiana	41
Boston College	36
University of Massachusetts-Lowell	38
University of Massachusetts-Amherst	36
Northeastern University	37
Central Michigan University	37
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor	37
Jackson State University	36
University of Southern Mississippi	36
University of Missouri-Columbia	43
Southeast Missouri State University	42
Missouri State University-Springfield	36
University of Nebraska-Lincoln	39
University of Nevada-Reno	39
Monmouth University	36
University of New Mexico-Main Campus	37
New Mexico State University-Main Campus	46
Canisius College	42
Fordham University	37
Marist College	36
St Bonaventure University	36
Campbell University	37
Duke University	39
Elon University	37
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill	49
North Carolina State University at Raleigh	39
University of North Carolina Wilmington	36
North Dakota State University-Main Campus	37
Kent State University at Kent	37
Miami University-Oxford	36
Youngstown State University	37
Oklahoma State University-Main Campus	37
University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus	39
Oregon State University	38
University of Oregon	40
La Salle University	36
Lafayette College	38
Lehigh University	36
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus	37
University of Rhode Island	36
Citadel Military College of South Carolina	38
Furman	39
Presbyterian College	42
University of South Carolina-Columbia	38
Austin Peay State University	37
Middle Tennessee State University	37
The University of Tennessee-Knoxville	39
Vanderbilt University	37
Baylor University	41
Texas A & M University-Corpus Christi	36
University of the Incarnate Word	42
Rice University	40
Texas A & M University-College Station	37
The University of Texas at Arlington	38
The University of Texas at Austin	41
Texas Tech University	36
Brigham Young University-Provo	38
James Madison University	38
Norfolk State University	40
Marshall University	36
West Virginia University	37
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee	37
Stanford University	36

Nice info to have. However, I have to question the accuracy. Where is Coastal Carolina?  Certainly they had more than 35 participants as per the definition you provided. 

You are correct. They were left off the list by mistake due to how they were classified in EADA.

While all others were classified:

NCAA Division I without football

NCAA Division I-FCS

NCAA Division I-FBS

In 2018 Coastal Carolina was listed as "Other" and a sub-classification of "NCAA Division I- FCS Reclassifying to FBS"

Thus information provided is off by one school. .

Thank you 

RoadRunner posted:

Thank you 

On website they showed "38" while reporting "43" to Dept of Ed., which is a consistent practice for them

In their 2017 roster shows "30" whereas they reported "45" to the Dept of Ed.

This would be one post to not quote in your response. Ha Ha....anybody recall that poster who complained about this practice? 

Shoveit4Ks posted:

This would be one post to not quote in your response. Ha Ha....anybody recall that poster who complained about this practice? 

😂 and I almost did it twice!

Not trying to bust your butt, however I also noticed that Ohio University is not on this grid. Believe me when I say they have more than 35 in the fall. 

RoadRunner posted:

Not trying to bust your butt, however I also noticed that Ohio University is not on this grid. Believe me when I say they have more than 35 in the fall. 

RoadRunner,

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:

(A) Are listed by the institution on the varsity team's roster;

(B) Receive athletically related student aid; or

(C) Practice with the varsity team and receive coaching from one or more varsity coaches. A student who satisfies one or more of these criteria is a participant, including a student on a team the institution designates or defines as junior varsity, freshman, or novice, or a student withheld from competition to preserve eligibility (i.e., a redshirt), or for academic, medical, or other reasons. This includes fifth-year team members who have already received a bachelor's degree.

Here is the link to  Equity in Athletics Data Analysis , let me know what you find for Ohio University for 2017-2018 school year.

Where the EADA Student Participation can add some value when you are researching schools.  Most researchers look at the school website to determine roster headcount. If you are able to compare website vs EADA for a couple of years you might be able to determine where the trends are of a college might be.  Note, this will not address the fall school over recruiting issues, but it might provide additional transparency with respects to a family speaking to coaches during the recruiting process.

Food for thought.

Comments are appreciated.

SEC 2018

SEC 2017

CollegebaseballInsights posted:

RoadRunner posted:

Not trying to bust your butt, however I also noticed that Ohio University is not on this grid. Believe me when I say they have more than 35 in the fall. 

RoadRunner,

 

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:

(A) Are listed by the institution on the varsity team's roster;

(B) Receive athletically related student aid; or

(C) Practice with the varsity team and receive coaching from one or more varsity coaches. A student who satisfies one or more of these criteria is a participant, including a student on a team the institution designates or defines as junior varsity, freshman, or novice, or a student withheld from competition to preserve eligibility (i.e., a redshirt), or for academic, medical, or other reasons. This includes fifth-year team members who have already received a bachelor's degree.

Here is the link to  Equity in Athletics Data Analysis , let me know what you find for Ohio University for 2017-2018 school year

Thank you for the link. I see 35. By the definition you provided, I am interpreting that anyone who is coached or practices with the team should be included in the numbers, which would include fall players, correct?

RoadRunner posted:

CollegebaseballInsights posted:

RoadRunner posted:

Not trying to bust your butt, however I also noticed that Ohio University is not on this grid. Believe me when I say they have more than 35 in the fall. 

RoadRunner,

 

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:

(A) Are listed by the institution on the varsity team's roster;

(B) Receive athletically related student aid; or

(C) Practice with the varsity team and receive coaching from one or more varsity coaches. A student who satisfies one or more of these criteria is a participant, including a student on a team the institution designates or defines as junior varsity, freshman, or novice, or a student withheld from competition to preserve eligibility (i.e., a redshirt), or for academic, medical, or other reasons. This includes fifth-year team members who have already received a bachelor's degree.

Here is the link to  Equity in Athletics Data Analysis , let me know what you find for Ohio University for 2017-2018 school year

Thank you for the link. I see 35. By the definition you provided, I am interpreting that anyone who is coached or practices with the team should be included in the numbers, which would include fall players, correct?

When is the varsity team's first schedule contest?  

In 2018, the Division I Council adopted legislation to allow two fall exhibitions, beginning this fall, that don’t count against your 56-game spring schedule. Previously, you were allowed to play games in the fall, but they counted against your 56-game slate.

https://d1baseball.com/feature...ts-baseball-changes/

I believe the NAIA rules are different, but you will need to research.

With all due respect, I don’t understand how your question is relevant?  It seems to me that the school can turn in whatever numbers they want, accurate or not?  Is there penalty for fibbing?

RoadRunner posted:

With all due respect, I don’t understand how your question is relevant?  It seems to me that the school can turn in whatever numbers they want, accurate or not?  Is there penalty for fibbing?

With all due respects, my question is relevant. As for if you read what I initially posted from the EADA guidelines, then you would understand what might be considered:

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

"Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:"

What is the varsity team's first scheduled contest? In the fall or the spring?  Do you consider fall exhibition games "first schedule contest".

If you would like additional clarification, the information can be found on the EADA website.

So you are interpreting the fall scrimmages as 1st contest?  I know some fall guys are cut before those fall contests. 

RoadRunner posted:

So you are interpreting the fall scrimmages as 1st contest?  I know some fall guys are cut before those fall contests. 

It seems like you already know the answer, but going back to your statement

"With all due respect, I don’t understand how your question is relevant?  It seems to me that the school can turn in whatever numbers they want, accurate or not?  Is there penalty for fibbing?"

Here is the website for Equity in Athletic Disclosure Act. https://www2.ed.gov/finaid/pro.../athletics/eada.html

It will provide you the objective, additional information can be found with respects to penalties for not complying.

Regards

CollegebaseballInsights posted:

The Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act (EADA) was designed to make prospective students and prospective student-athletes aware of an institution of higher education’s commitment to providing equitable athletic opportunities for its men and women students. The EADA requires the disclosure of information about varsity teams and the financial resources and personnel that the school dedicates to those teams.

The EADA Report must be published by October 15 each year and must be made available upon request to students, prospective students, and the public.

The 2019 data collection survey closes Nov 1.

Information is normally available by Dec 15 via Equity in Athletics Data Analytics

 

 

Definition of Participation (Equity in Athletics - EADA)

Students who, as of the day of a varsity team's first scheduled contest:

(A) Are listed by the institution on the varsity team's roster;

(B) Receive athletically related student aid; or

(C) Practice with the varsity team and receive coaching from one or more varsity coaches. A student who satisfies one or more of these criteria is a participant, including a student on a team the institution designates or defines as junior varsity, freshman, or novice, or a student withheld from competition to preserve eligibility (i.e., a redshirt), or for academic, medical, or other reasons. This includes fifth-year team members who have already received a bachelor's degree.

Below are the list of NCAA-D1 baseball programs that in 2018 had more than 35 players participate.

Note,

Here are 2018 participation numbers. 

Alabama A & M University	47
Alabama State University	38
Jacksonville State University	39
Samford University	40
Troy University	37
University of Arizona	40
University of Arkansas	41
California Baptist University	38
California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo	36
California State University-Long Beach	36
California State University-Northridge	40
University of California-Berkeley	39
University of California-Davis	36
University of California-Los Angeles	36
University of California-Riverside	36
University of California-Santa Barbara	38
Loyola Marymount University	42
Pepperdine University	37
University of Connecticut	39
University of North Florida	37
Georgia Southern University	41
Georgia State University	40
Mercer University	41
Savannah State University	38
Eastern Illinois University	39
Illinois State University	39
Butler University	38
Indiana University-Bloomington	43
University of Notre Dame	37
University of Iowa	40
University of Kansas	41
Kansas State University	41
Wichita State University	43
University of Kentucky	43
University of Louisville	37
Morehead State University	36
Western Kentucky University	38
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College	36
McNeese State University	36
University of Louisiana at Monroe	45
Southeastern Louisiana University	38
Southern University and A & M College	41
University of Louisiana at Lafayette	44
Tulane University of Louisiana	41
Boston College	36
University of Massachusetts-Lowell	38
University of Massachusetts-Amherst	36
Northeastern University	37
Central Michigan University	37
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor	37
Jackson State University	36
University of Southern Mississippi	36
University of Missouri-Columbia	43
Southeast Missouri State University	42
Missouri State University-Springfield	36
University of Nebraska-Lincoln	39
University of Nevada-Reno	39
Monmouth University	36
University of New Mexico-Main Campus	37
New Mexico State University-Main Campus	46
Canisius College	42
Fordham University	37
Marist College	36
St Bonaventure University	36
Campbell University	37
Duke University	39
Elon University	37
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill	49
North Carolina State University at Raleigh	39
University of North Carolina Wilmington	36
North Dakota State University-Main Campus	37
Kent State University at Kent	37
Miami University-Oxford	36
Youngstown State University	37
Oklahoma State University-Main Campus	37
University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus	39
Oregon State University	38
University of Oregon	40
La Salle University	36
Lafayette College	38
Lehigh University	36
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus	37
University of Rhode Island	36
Citadel Military College of South Carolina	38
Furman	39
Presbyterian College	42
University of South Carolina-Columbia	38
Austin Peay State University	37
Middle Tennessee State University	37
The University of Tennessee-Knoxville	39
Vanderbilt University	37
Baylor University	41
Texas A & M University-Corpus Christi	36
University of the Incarnate Word	42
Rice University	40
Texas A & M University-College Station	37
The University of Texas at Arlington	38
The University of Texas at Austin	41
Texas Tech University	36
Brigham Young University-Provo	38
James Madison University	38
Norfolk State University	40
Marshall University	36
West Virginia University	37
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee	37
Stanford University	36

Sorry guys....i couldn't resist.