3Finger or others in the know

The only thing that I can think of is that he doesn't have enough credits to be on track for graduation. I don't know the scale but after 3 years one needs x amount of credits to be eligible to play D1.

Need more info, 3FG should be around soon.

Did he take the summer courses before his first year of JUCO? If so, the only thing that I can think of would be the 4-2-4 rule, but still not sure if that applies?

I think the issue is that he took the summer classes at a 4 year school and went immediately to a D1 school in the fall. Ordinarily, you cannot move directly from a 4 year school to a D1 and play without sitting out a year. I think the eligibility question would hinge on how many credits that he took over the summer.

Player took courses last summer from an online college. Took 6 credits and did so in part to meet academic requirements to get in to D1 school that recruited him for baseball.

So he played his 2 years at JUCO (not sure how many credits he accumulated) then took these summer 2010 courses online. Something is being reviewed from that process to ensure he is eligible to play Spring 2011 (upcoming). Just not sure what?

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Originally posted by RRF8:
I think the issue is that he took the summer classes at a 4 year school and went immediately to a D1 school in the fall. Ordinarily, you cannot move directly from a 4 year school to a D1 and play without sitting out a year. I think the eligibility question would hinge on how many credits that he took over the summer.

I think your terminology may be a bit off...all D1 schools are 4 year schools, but not all 4 year schools are D1 (NAIA, D2, D3). If you move from a D1 school to another D1 school you do have to sit out, but you could move from a D1 school to a D2 or D3 school and play immediately.

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Originally posted by Catching101:

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Originally posted by RRF8:
I think the issue is that he took the summer classes at a 4 year school and went immediately to a D1 school in the fall. Ordinarily, you cannot move directly from a 4 year school to a D1 and play without sitting out a year. I think the eligibility question would hinge on how many credits that he took over the summer.

I think your terminology may be a bit off...all D1 schools are 4 year schools, but not all 4 year schools are D1 (NAIA, D2, D3). If you move from a D1 school to another D1 school you do have to sit out, but you could move from a D1 school to a D2 or D3 school and play immediately.

One has to sit going from any 4 year program (d2,d3, NAIA) to a D1. That's probably what they are questioning and trying to figure out where the online courses originated from.

I read the original post wrong.

Interesting scenerio either way, I would like to know what rule was possibly jeopardized for others to learn from.

Folks, there are 5+ pages in Bylaw 14.4, which deals with academic progress. Thre's another 5 pages dealing with 2-4 transfer students. Trying to guess which of these rules may possibly affect this particular players's eligibility this spring is not likely to be successful, but I'll take a stab at it.

I guess that the online courses would not make him a 2-4-4 transfer (even assuming that the online courses were at a 4 year school, although the original poster hasn't clarified that point.) Summer school and extension courses are explicitly excluded from the criteria that imply a transfer. On the other hand, if the online classes were from a school that considers the summer term to be part ot the regular academic year, and the student originally signed up as a full-time student, then the online school might be considered to be a transfer.

The more likely issue is academic progress.

A baseball player must have completed 18 semester hours during the previous academic year. So this player needs to have completed 18 hours in fall 2009 and spring 2010. Hours taken during the summer can not be used to cure a deficiency.

He needs to have completed at least 6 hours during spring 2010.

He needs to have completed 40% of the course requirements for any major at the beginning of his 3rd year. In baseball, he can't make up a deficiency during the fall term. The 40% requirement can be a problem for JC transfers. It's quite possible to have met the transfer requirements of 12 hours per term of transferrable credit, and to have met the new college's requirements to be admitted, but to not have the correct courses to meet the degree requirement.

By the way, it doesn't apply here, but players who redshirt at a JC and attend the JC for 3 years need to be very careful in the courses they take, because entering the 4th year of college, the student must have completed 60% of the course requiements for his specific declared major. Most JCs don't offer many courses acceptable to a 4 year school as part of the 3rd year of a degree program.