What is a good 40 time?
Mine has been working with a strength and cond. trainer and has seen an appreciable decrease in his 40 (dropped 7/10 so far), but we still don't know what a good electronic timing is for a freshman.
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Travel...Not aware of any showcase or scouting organization for BASEBALL that takes a 40 yd reading.
That is usually a football time. As a high school freshman, depending on the size and position and age of the player...a good time could be 4.6 to 5.3 seconds.
That is usually a football time. As a high school freshman, depending on the size and position and age of the player...a good time could be 4.6 to 5.3 seconds.
Traveldad,
While baseball uses 60 times, dropping a 40 time by .7 is HUGE.
While baseball uses 60 times, dropping a 40 time by .7 is HUGE.
Beenthere,Redbird
Thanks, we are in the range you give now.Do you Know of any places that give an electronic 60?
I was watching an old football combine and the commentaters were noting the inconsistencies of the handheld vs. the electronic--they were doing both at the combine.
I suppose since I know the 0-10,10-20, and 20-40 splits that I can project fairly accurate the 60, assuming top end speed is reached at the 20, right?
Thanks, we are in the range you give now.Do you Know of any places that give an electronic 60?
I was watching an old football combine and the commentaters were noting the inconsistencies of the handheld vs. the electronic--they were doing both at the combine.
I suppose since I know the 0-10,10-20, and 20-40 splits that I can project fairly accurate the 60, assuming top end speed is reached at the 20, right?
Fastest kids in my sons program are running 5.0 40s and 7.1 60s, average is 5.3 40s and 7.7 60s. These would be incoming FR. Not sure the acceleration is complete 20yds in. On your mark, get set, bang! 
Tuzigoot, that sounds pretty accurate. The 7'1 60's are a very good time. That will continue to even get better with spring camps and conditioning. It sounds like your sons team will have some wheels in their lineup.
That's 7.1 not 7'1 of course. For those that might have been confused. It's getting late.
New what you meant. Wonder what some of the best and average 60 times at the underclassman showcase on Sunday were? I heard the results may be posted on PBR's website by the end of the week.
Great times, but to compare apples to apples...
Anyone with electronic/laser timed 40's and 60's? I ask because of the difference between hand v. electronic varies so much.
Your right Tuzi, just got PM'd; "sprinters" don't get top end until 50 yds. Now what do I do?
Anyone with electronic/laser timed 40's and 60's? I ask because of the difference between hand v. electronic varies so much.
Your right Tuzi, just got PM'd; "sprinters" don't get top end until 50 yds. Now what do I do?
Traveldad:
TARatko is right...to trim .70 off a 40 time is very impressive.
Tell your son to keep up the good work!
TARatko is right...to trim .70 off a 40 time is very impressive.
Tell your son to keep up the good work!
TARatko,
Thanks, and he does work hard.What does Tim Graff say about top end speed, and does he have a web site to address questions like these?
0 - 20 split = 3.2 (laser)
20 - 40 split = 2.0 (laser)5.2 40 total
Assuming top end is reached at 40, and the 20-40 split can be can be maintained through the 60, then makes sense to say 7.2 for 60.
I'm not sure what any of these splits really mean, but I see the most room for improvement in the 0-20. If we can shave .2 off the 0-20 and .1 off both the 20-40/40-60, then we'd be talking. In your opinion is this attainable?
Thanks, and he does work hard.What does Tim Graff say about top end speed, and does he have a web site to address questions like these?
0 - 20 split = 3.2 (laser)
20 - 40 split = 2.0 (laser)5.2 40 total
Assuming top end is reached at 40, and the 20-40 split can be can be maintained through the 60, then makes sense to say 7.2 for 60.
I'm not sure what any of these splits really mean, but I see the most room for improvement in the 0-20. If we can shave .2 off the 0-20 and .1 off both the 20-40/40-60, then we'd be talking. In your opinion is this attainable?
Speed is one of those things that of course is great to have. On the other hand, hitting the ball and throwing the ball and catching the ball are things you HAVE to be able to do. Work on speed, but not at the expense of the others.
FastballDad;
Totally agree. The speed questions and results come as a byproduct of rehabbing a leg injury. We got lucky with some very good advice on that one.
TARatko;
Again, thanks for the solid info. That's why I love this forum: great advice from knowledgable people who take the time to share it. I'll pass along new times as we log them.
Totally agree. The speed questions and results come as a byproduct of rehabbing a leg injury. We got lucky with some very good advice on that one.
TARatko;
Again, thanks for the solid info. That's why I love this forum: great advice from knowledgable people who take the time to share it. I'll pass along new times as we log them.
The main point that every one seems to agree on is that the most accurate way to get a 40-60 time is to use laser timers. Why would you bother getting hand timed and then try to figure out what your laser time would be? Adding on .2-.3 seconds is not a universal standard accepted by colleges and scouts. I have seen athletes run a 4.39 hand timed and end up running a 4.9 laser timed. The athletes end up getting disappointed when they see the laser times because the hand times are just so unrealistic. The last person that you want to discourage by these unrealistic times is the athlete. Most sports training facilities that have a laser timing system will do it for free. Velocity Sports Performance does it all the time for Hinsdale South Athletes. Hinsdale South parents tell me all the time that just just call and get in for 40 time during the down hours. They are located in Willowbrook some where around Hinsdale South High School.A quick google search found their website to be http://www.velocitysp.com/willowbrook. That's just my opinion on the matter. I just get frustrated when you see these times that you know are not accurate.