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I don't know if it was the relearning of the proper mechanics of throwing a baseball or if the labrum surgery 6 months ago did it. There is no problem for me throwing the baseball accurately at a short distance anymore.

Along the way I worked with Sports Psychologist Dr. Richard Crowley which did not work. I also worked with another clinical psychologist as well and it did not work... Point is if you or someone you know is struggling with throwing the ball accurately, it may be because of injury.

The smallest tear can demolish the kinetic chain.

Wish I would've been more knowledgable about the pain I felt in my shoulder from the beginning instead of just writing it off... 

It has been hell these last few years... I am so happy to be throwing again. 

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     My son a 16 year old catcher has suffered from throwing back to the pitcher for now going on a year and a half. POP times to second 1.9 and accurate. He has never complain about any shoulder pain, some numbness and tingling in hand when throwing. We to have talk to sports mental experts as well as throwing coaches  to no prevail. We have gone as far as checking him out for thoracic outlet syndrome, but feel any surgery may not change the outcome. It has gotten to the point where the depression is greater than  any joy in playing. Any more detail on your recovery would be welcome. Without sounding like a throwing expert the one mechanical difference  I see between his good and bad throws is on his bad throws his shoulder seem to open to early . Just my observation , any comments please.

I'm not a doctor, but tingling and numbness in the hand is not a good sign. I'm wondering if maybe when he's throwing down to 2nd, he's just ignoring what may follow, but when throwing back to the pitcher, he's trying to protect his arm, even subconsciously. You may want to get him checked out. 

KT333, congrats on getting back in the saddle!!  Good luck to you!!

busterdog posted:

   The doctors (specialist) contribute the tingling and numbness to thoracic outlet syndrome but was reluctant to do surgery for the fact that there was no serious pain  involved. Surgery was no guaranteed fix, and involved removing a part of a rib.

Then I would reiterate my previous statement.  He is probably changing his mechanics when he throws easy back to the pitcher as to not aggravate the condition.  Even if he's not doing it consciously.  I don't know how serious this condition is or if it can be worsened by continued activity, but he needs to take a look at his mechanics on the throwback to the pitcher.  The catcher on my son's team fires the ball back to the pitcher.  Maybe, if it doesn't bother him too much, he can fire it back, like he's making a throw to 2nd.

Here is my suggestion that worked for me. First of all, stop talking about the mechanical issues to your son. Could it be mechanical? Sure, but he doesn't need/want to hear about that. If he starts thinking it's mechanical, all that brings in is more thinking.

2nd, and most importantly. He needs to address his problem to a) his coach & b) his teammates. The hardest/embarrassing/depressing part of the yips is trying to hide it from everyone else. He is trying to hide it from coaches, teammates, parents, fans, etc. I was a SS throughout my whole life and played 2B my freshman year of college. I hid everything from my teammates, coaches, everyone by lobbing the ball to 1st on groundballs. That was until 1 day, 1 inning I had 4 balls hit my way. I threw 2 down and wide left and threw 2 into the dugout high and right (all throws weren't close). I was taken out mid-inning. My coach wasn't mad, he just didn't get it and he felt bad for me. After the game, I was down and depressed. I told the coach I would talk with him the next day. I told him everything: "I have Chuck Knoblauch disease. Do you know who Steve Blass and Steve Sax are?" I knew everything about it, but how to cure it. 

I told my coach I thought about quitting, but this was my love, my passion. He suggested that I address the entire team. Tell them what I was going through. And I did. Instead of embarrassment coming my way, it felt like a gorilla off my back. I went early to practice, stayed late after practice. I took thousands of ground balls and threw hundreds of balls away to the 1st basemen (who stayed with me and the coaches before and after practice to help me). I NEVER NEVER NEVER lobbed a ball to him. I was going to throw it into the stands before I did that. Eventually, I expected to throw it away, but it wasn't embarrassing or frustrating anymore. And once that went away, my worries went away and I eventually got it back. I ended up being a 4 year starter. I can go outside and play catch and wonder, "wow, that was weird I can't even try to do what I was trying so hard not to do."

If your son can address his team, ask the coaches and/or players to help him work through it, and work his ass off when the coach / players help and accept him, he will learn so much about the experience. He will grow much more than as a baseball player. He will grow as a person. He will have the guts to stand up and own something. I need to really emphasize that he addresses the team as a whole. This cannot be talking to individuals one-on-one. He needs to tell them, this is what is going on. I don't get it, but I am going to work my ass off if you guys will help me. I'm going to throw some of the worst balls you've ever seen and each one of those throws will get him back. 

It won't be over night, he may need to start the year on the bench, but he will get it. I recommend showing your son this message. Hell, have him show his coach. This was the HARDEST thing that has ever happened to me worse than failing a class or seeing someone die. I am so happy that I went through it now because I am a better person and ended up being a better player for it.

Feel free to PM me or ask more questions on this thread to me. If your son wants to PM me, I can give you my information as well.   

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