What is Hebron's current record vs Marcus? I ask because I don't see a way that Hebron can get past SLC in the district with 4 games remaining and SLC owning the tiebreaker against them (SLC 2-0 vs Hebron).
The battle for the 3rd and 4th seeds appears to be between SLC (5-6), Marcus (5-6) and Hebron (3-8). SLC and Marcus play tomorrow with the winner going up 2-1 in the season series and owning the tiebreaker. I would have to say that in a worst case scenario SLC would win at least 1 more district game with games remaining against Marcus, FMHS, Hebron and Lewisville. This worst case scenario would result in SLC having a 6-9 district record and Hebron would need to win all 4 of their remaining games to finish 7-8. So back to my original question...how's Hebron done against Marcus?
quote:Originally posted by doubleday:
What is Hebron's current record vs Marcus? I ask because I don't see a way that Hebron can get past SLC in the district with 4 games remaining and SLC owning the tiebreaker against them (SLC 2-0 vs Hebron).
The battle for the 3rd and 4th seeds appears to be between SLC (5-6), Marcus (5-6) and Hebron (3-8). SLC and Marcus play tomorrow with the winner going up 2-1 in the season series and owning the tiebreaker. I would have to say that in a worst case scenario SLC would win at least 1 more district game with games remaining against Marcus, FMHS, Hebron and Lewisville. This worst case scenario would result in SLC having a 6-9 district record and Hebron would need to win all 4 of their remaining games to finish 7-8. So back to my original question...how's Hebron done against Marcus?
Hebron and Marcus have split 1-1, with the 3rd game remaining. Things could work out where that last game between them decides who goes and who goes home.
Got the chance to watch the Marcus /Southlake game today. For all the Marcus fans that wanted change , u got it, from the coach, to the position players that have no idea where they will be from week to week . The coach cost them this one!!!!
SLC did score 3 in the bottom of the 7th to beat Marcus 6-5 yesterday. As with most big innings it started with 2 BBs and then a bad choice to go to 3rd (safe) on a sac bunt attempt leaving bases loaded with no outs. SLC goes to 6-6 in the district with 3 games remaining (FMHS, Hebron and LHS).
Any scores from tonight?
quote:Originally posted by Salt:
Any scores from tonight?
Flower Mound 11 Carroll 1 in 5.
SOOOoooooo...
Looks like "Funnelcakes" just wrecked FloMo's perfect season. Also beat Coppell last night. Gotta hand it to the dude - seems to get his teams ramped up as they go into the playoffs.
Man, that's really got to have the FMer's kind of chapped. Even started their Ace.
Looks like "Funnelcakes" just wrecked FloMo's perfect season. Also beat Coppell last night. Gotta hand it to the dude - seems to get his teams ramped up as they go into the playoffs.
Man, that's really got to have the FMer's kind of chapped. Even started their Ace.
xgirl;
Don't be so quick to laugh. FMMarcus did it last year from a lower seeded spot and FM will probably get flipped for a one game series thanks to the wonderful UIL rules. You never know what can happen in that situation! Marcus does have Gill back pitching and he is prettyyyyyy good.
Don't be so quick to laugh. FMMarcus did it last year from a lower seeded spot and FM will probably get flipped for a one game series thanks to the wonderful UIL rules. You never know what can happen in that situation! Marcus does have Gill back pitching and he is prettyyyyyy good.
quote:Originally posted by wraggArm:
SOOOoooooo...
Looks like "Funnelcakes" just wrecked FloMo's perfect season. Also beat Coppell last night. Gotta hand it to the dude - seems to get his teams ramped up as they go into the playoffs.
Man, that's really got to have the FMer's kind of chapped. Even started their Ace.
Why would we be chapped? We won district and our spot in the playoffs is secure? Marcus did well last year going into the playoffs and we wish them well.
You've got the right perspective, Ex-Girl - a lot of positives to focus on. You've got a great group of boys out there in Flower Mound. (Speaking strictly about "on-the-field" character, of course.) I think you'll do well in the playoffs.
SLC defeated Hebron 6-2 Saturday. SLC is 7-7 in the district and holds the tiebreaker against Marcus. With 1 district game remaining, if SLC beats LHS next Friday it would mean the district seedings would be: 1) FMHS 2) Coppell 3) SLC 4) Marcus.
Marcus would face Colleyville Heritage in round 1 and SLC would face Keller.
Marcus would face Colleyville Heritage in round 1 and SLC would face Keller.
quote:Originally posted by Xgirl:
wraggarm - at least the FM players had enough character not to vandalize the Marcus facility like the Marcus players did at FM.
Those who live in glass houses.....well you know the rest.
And vehicles.
quote:Originally posted by wraggArm:
You've got the right perspective, Ex-Girl - a lot of positives to focus on. You've got a great group of boys out there in Flower Mound. (Speaking strictly about "on-the-field" character, of course.) I think you'll do well in the playoffs.
Marcus calling anyone out on character is the biggest pot calling the kettle black I have ever seen.
You won a good game congrats but your attempt at slap shots falls very short.
Cut it out. This is embarrassing.
quote:Originally posted by wraggArm:quote:Originally posted by Xgirl:
wraggarm - at least the FM players had enough character not to vandalize the Marcus facility like the Marcus players did at FM.
Those who live in glass houses.....well you know the rest.
Sounds like a regular war zone.
doubleday - yeah, I think SLC set themselves up way better for the playoffs when they came back to beat Marcus last week. Lewisville's not going to be any problem for Carrol. Is O'Connor going to pitch?
Don't know who will pitch Friday vs LHS. SeanO pitched Saturday vs Hebron. I'm sure he could go, but only the coaching staff knows at this point. I think it depends on the playoff format for the following week. Does anyone know the format/schedule? I've heard various things...one was that the playoffs would run on Fri/Sat with a single game on Fri and then a DH on Sat if a 3rd game is needed. Another was that it was a Tues, Fri, Sat format...anyone know for sure?
I'd like to know where all the Don English Bashing has gone??? Looks like he's doing a great job at Coppell this season as they will come in 2nd place in that tough district!
Great job Don!!!
Great job Don!!!
I can do English bashing if you want. Just order it up...
"Can't put together a line-up for left-handed pitching...Kinda walks like a chicken...Shoulda won it all last year...doesn't know how to use the bunt...Whauut..."
"Can't put together a line-up for left-handed pitching...Kinda walks like a chicken...Shoulda won it all last year...doesn't know how to use the bunt...Whauut..."
In the most likely Bi-District scenario the matchups will be:
FMHS vs Justin NW
Coppell vs Grapevine
SLC vs Keller
Marcus vs Colleyville Heritage
Who advances?
FMHS vs Justin NW
Coppell vs Grapevine
SLC vs Keller
Marcus vs Colleyville Heritage
Who advances?
quote:Originally posted by doubleday:
In the most likely Bi-District scenario the matchups will be:
FMHS vs Justin NW
Coppell vs Grapevine
SLC vs Keller
Marcus vs Colleyville Heritage
Who advances?
FMHS
Coppell
SLC
Colleyville
why do they take 4 teams to playoffs. Why not everyone. Its like football no one gets cut. lol getting to state would not take as long. Marucs?
Does anyone know the format/schedule? I've heard various things...one was that the playoffs would run on Fri/Sat with a single game on Fri and then a DH on Sat if a 3rd game is needed. Another was that it was a Tues, Fri, Sat format...anyone know for sure?[/QUOTE]
Don't know for sure...but I don't think any games will be played on Tuesday unless we get into rainy weather. It will most likely be a Thursday, Friday, and Saturday game if needed or a Friday game with a Saturday (doubleheader) if needed. The earliest games will most likely start on the 6th or 7th.
Don't know for sure...but I don't think any games will be played on Tuesday unless we get into rainy weather. It will most likely be a Thursday, Friday, and Saturday game if needed or a Friday game with a Saturday (doubleheader) if needed. The earliest games will most likely start on the 6th or 7th.
We have this discussion every year. The ultimate formats are up to the coaches of each team. If they can't agree then it's a coin toss. The items up for consideration include everything: location, dates, time of day, number of games, etc. In addition, the coaches can "package" these items during the negotiations to tempt the other coach. The only condition is that the final game must be started by Saturday evening at midnight.
One example is Coach X wants a three game series and Coach Y wants one. Coach Y could offer that he'll play three games but they all must be at his field AND he wants to play on Tuesday, Friday and Saturday because he wants to throw his ace twice. Coach X can then say no and it's back to flipping a coin or changing the negotiating points. Remember, everything is negotiable but ultimately if they can't agree then it's a coin flip. These negotiations can go on for hours.
I wish UIL would step in and clearly define the rules of engagement to be a 3-games series, Thurs, Fri, Sat, and winner moves on. In addition, I think the higher seed should get the first and last games at home or at least the first with the third game, if needed, on a neutral field. The current system doesn't provide any incentive to winning your district (other than pride). However, that being said, at least it's better than is was 4-5 years ago when it was a 1-game series only.
Enjoy the playoffs. I know I will!!
One example is Coach X wants a three game series and Coach Y wants one. Coach Y could offer that he'll play three games but they all must be at his field AND he wants to play on Tuesday, Friday and Saturday because he wants to throw his ace twice. Coach X can then say no and it's back to flipping a coin or changing the negotiating points. Remember, everything is negotiable but ultimately if they can't agree then it's a coin flip. These negotiations can go on for hours.
I wish UIL would step in and clearly define the rules of engagement to be a 3-games series, Thurs, Fri, Sat, and winner moves on. In addition, I think the higher seed should get the first and last games at home or at least the first with the third game, if needed, on a neutral field. The current system doesn't provide any incentive to winning your district (other than pride). However, that being said, at least it's better than is was 4-5 years ago when it was a 1-game series only.
Enjoy the playoffs. I know I will!!
quote:Originally posted by NTXDAD:
I wish UIL would step in and clearly define the rules of engagement to be a 3-games series, Thurs, Fri, Sat, and winner moves on. In addition, I think the higher seed should get the first and last games at home or at least the first with the third game, if needed, on a neutral field. The current system doesn't provide any incentive to winning your district (other than pride). However, that being said, at least it's better than is was 4-5 years ago when it was a 1-game series only.
It does seem crazy that UIL seems to legislatively knit-pick everything they can get their hands on, yet leave something as important as this up to the coaches to negotiate. If the coaches repeatedly go to extremes to "abuse" or "leverage" (depending on who's ox gets gored in the deal)
the system, UIL will probably step in and put some illogical/super-restrictive rules in place that everyone can hate equally. I would prefer a best of 3 game series too, with the better seed given some advantages to determine dates/locations. I'd be concerned about a Th, Fr, Sa requirement due to weather.
WAG!
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Since it wasn't in the paper this morning...
SLC over Lewisville 7-4 Friday night
WP: Bailey
SLC HR: Havens, McLendon, Quintanilla, Altimonte
Who does SLC play first in playoffs?
Keller ?
Yep..SLC vs Keller in Round 1
NTXDAD... I agree 100%. Point in fact....in girls softball, which has the same idiotic rules that hurt district winners... Last night, Keller the #1 seed in State, and is out what a travisty! When will the UIL change this very poorly thought out situation. In baseball, your are so right,it rewards teams who luck out and have one good game. There is a reason the lower seeds did not win the district! The first place team is usually very deep. The current system does not reward district winners at all! In fact it does just the opposite, it punishes them by giving the 4th seed an equal opportunity! Well said NTX.
quote:Originally posted by NTXDAD:
We have this discussion every year. The ultimate formats are up to the coaches of each team. If they can't agree then it's a coin toss. The items up for consideration include everything: location, dates, time of day, number of games, etc. In addition, the coaches can "package" these items during the negotiations to tempt the other coach. The only condition is that the final game must be started by Saturday evening at midnight.
One example is Coach X wants a three game series and Coach Y wants one. Coach Y could offer that he'll play three games but they all must be at his field AND he wants to play on Tuesday, Friday and Saturday because he wants to throw his ace twice. Coach X can then say no and it's back to flipping a coin or changing the negotiating points. Remember, everything is negotiable but ultimately if they can't agree then it's a coin flip. These negotiations can go on for hours.
I wish UIL would step in and clearly define the rules of engagement to be a 3-games series, Thurs, Fri, Sat, and winner moves on. In addition, I think the higher seed should get the first and last games at home or at least the first with the third game, if needed, on a neutral field. The current system doesn't provide any incentive to winning your district (other than pride). However, that being said, at least it's better than is was 4-5 years ago when it was a 1-game series only.
Enjoy the playoffs. I know I will!!
Omahaorbust-
Just saw your note about English...
All the bashers will come out of their closets when he calls his favorite play - suicide squeeze - and it fails like it does 90% of the time and the Cowboys end their season on another downer. Any decent coach knows he's gonna do it and his players work on stopping it in practice. Heck, he was writing little notes on his palm before Sarah Palin was and his 1st one is always suicide squeeze!
Just saw your note about English...
All the bashers will come out of their closets when he calls his favorite play - suicide squeeze - and it fails like it does 90% of the time and the Cowboys end their season on another downer. Any decent coach knows he's gonna do it and his players work on stopping it in practice. Heck, he was writing little notes on his palm before Sarah Palin was and his 1st one is always suicide squeeze!
"If" it fails 90% percent of the time, then it probably has more to do with lack of execution than the coach. Unless he is teaching it wrong...which I doubt.
If you put the bunt down fair, as long as it is not a 1 hopper back to the pitcher, you will get a run out of it. Sure, they could pitchout, they could steal the sign or guess correctly...maybe the hitter squared too early, maybe the runner broke too early. I doubt these are things they are being "coached" to do. I know bunting is not "****" but winning is and say what you want, but Don English is a winner!
I think most of your angst is personal...which is perfectly fine. I missed a squeeze bunt in the bottom of the 7th once in high school and it was not the coaches fault. I should have put it down. If I do, we win...I didn't so we lost in extra innings.
If you put the bunt down fair, as long as it is not a 1 hopper back to the pitcher, you will get a run out of it. Sure, they could pitchout, they could steal the sign or guess correctly...maybe the hitter squared too early, maybe the runner broke too early. I doubt these are things they are being "coached" to do. I know bunting is not "****" but winning is and say what you want, but Don English is a winner!
I think most of your angst is personal...which is perfectly fine. I missed a squeeze bunt in the bottom of the 7th once in high school and it was not the coaches fault. I should have put it down. If I do, we win...I didn't so we lost in extra innings.
Omaha... you are one stand-up former HS player! Wish there were more like you who can acknowledge the situation and go forward. That kind of attitude will serve you well in your future life endeavors. (Which by the way are much more important!) Way too many players blame the coach for losing or for a bad play or for lost opportunities that they probably did not earn. PS. I'll bet you executed the vast majority of the plays you were asked to perform while on your HS team!
quote:Originally posted by omahaorbust:
"If" it fails 90% percent of the time, then it probably has more to do with lack of execution than the coach. Unless he is teaching it wrong...which I doubt.
If you put the bunt down fair, as long as it is not a 1 hopper back to the pitcher, you will get a run out of it. Sure, they could pitchout, they could steal the sign or guess correctly...maybe the hitter squared too early, maybe the runner broke too early. I doubt these are things they are being "coached" to do. I know bunting is not "****" but winning is and say what you want, but Don English is a winner!
I think most of your angst is personal...which is perfectly fine. I missed a squeeze bunt in the bottom of the 7th once in high school and it was not the coaches fault. I should have put it down. If I do, we win...I didn't so we lost in extra innings.