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I went back and looked at the rosters of our 12-year old Little League All-Star teams from 2014, 2015 and 2016.

In total, it's 37 players over those 3 years.

Since we live in a small town and the baseball circle is even smaller, everyone knows everybody (in the baseball circle) and where they are, etc.

Of those 37 players, only 8 are playing college baseball or will be in 2023 at any level. (Juco, D3, D2 or D1.)

It's a small sample size from a small town that's not exactly a baseball hotbed, but 78% of the LL Majors All-Stars did not go on to play college baseball...anywhere.

78%

That's a really high percentage. The funnel is real.

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The funnel doesn't stop when someone gets offered to play college baseball.  Greater than half of my son's teammates that went on to play college baseball have quit their college teams (and he's just a Sophomore).  All these kids were stars of their teams and never saw the bench pre-college.  The time commitment, grind, competing against men, and quality of players that come in every year burn out plenty of quality ballplayers.  What is at the end of that "funnel" is the question - is it getting a college offer, playing in college, getting drafted, making the bigs, or setting yourself up for a great career in the world.  It's different for everyone but guess what, when you get to the end of that funnel there is another funnel waiting....   

@314Calhoun posted:

How did you end up with 37 players over 3 years? In a small town with a even smaller baseball circle. I would have expected that it would have more or less been the same 12-13 players all 3 years.  It sounds like the roster completely changed each year and FrancisJr was probably the only player who played all three years.

This is just the "LL Majors" 12U All-Stars for each year, 2014, 2015 and 2016. My son was on the 2016 team.

In 2015, he was on the 11U All-Stars and he was on the 10U All-Stars in 2014. (Although he was in the Majors all 3 years...2014 through 2016.) Our LL kept the kids at their ages for All-Stars.

The funnel doesn't stop when someone gets offered to play college baseball.  Greater than half of my son's teammates that went on to play college baseball have quit their college teams (and he's just a Sophomore). 

Yeah, I could see that happening to 2 of our 8. Both POs. Both were (at best) #3 SP on the HS team. Both are attending lower level D3s next year. Both have rubber arms. Always take the ball. But both are also very temperamental and have dads who are tough with them. It's no lock that they will play 4 years.

The 3 D1s are all pitchers who throw 90+ and were very successful in HS.

In total, 6 of the 8 are pitchers. My kid is one of the other 2 position players. He's D2.

The other non-pitcher is an interesting story. He was THE MAN in Little League. Went on to play at a very successful private HS.  He has the size. Athletic kid. Everyone had he pegged for P5 or a high mid major. There were rumors of offers.

NLI day comes and nothing happens.

He's now playing at a really low level D3 at a school that's in a ghetto. Something happened somewhere but no one seems to know.

@2022NYC posted:

Was it grades,  behavior or injury? I would assume there would be indicators in a small circle. My kid still provides the 411 (age check) on the slightly bigger circle by me.

Wasn't injury. And, I doubt it was behavior or grades. I have no idea what was the story. My GUESS is that it was a combination of COVID-19 (since he was a 2020 grad) and the dad maybe just assuming that he would be "found" and not getting him to the right places to be seen. But this is just a guess.

Taking a short range of a group of LL players is stats in small numbers. LL’s tend to have trends. When my son played LL the view was states or bust even though it’s a large state.A few years later they couldn’t get to the district semifinals. So in a small handful of years you might find a significant number of future college players. Then in another handful you might find none.

My son played 11/12 all stars both years. Both teams went to states. When he was eleven nine of the twelve went on to play college ball at some level. The next year while still winning districts, sections and going to states only three kids went on to college ball. Two were repeats from the previous season.

On the second team only five went on to high school ball. The team was loaded with athletes who outran and outmuscled the small field. Most games were “bombs away.” But once on the 60/90 they weren’t baseball players. Most of them were at least all conference in high school if not future college athletes in other sports.

@fly996 - here's the funny part. All 3 allstar teams were managed by dads. Their kids were on the allstars.

The 2014 dad just coached LL and his son played travel for different teams.

The 2015 and 2016 dads coached their sons on allstars and also ran the travel teams that their sons played on from ages 8 to 14. Both sons always played FT on the travel teams and usually batted in the top of the order.

The 2014 kid is now playing college baseball. He was a star in HS.

The 2015 kid never made Varsity in HS. The 2016 kid didn't make Varsity until his junior year and was a defensive sub off the bench who rarely batted. He will be a senior this year. He has no college commitment to date.

The best kid on the LL all star team that beat my son’s team for the state championship was the only kid on that team not to play college ball. He was a physical early bloomer that stopped growing and physically developing. He peaked at twelve. He faded at thirteen and fourteen on the 60/90. He didn’t make the high school,team.

@RJM posted:

Taking a short range of a group of LL players is stats in small numbers. LL’s tend to have trends. When my son played LL the view was states or bust even though it’s a large state.A few years later they couldn’t get to the district semifinals. So in a small handful of years you might find a significant number of future college players. Then in another handful you might find none.

My son played 11/12 all stars both years. Both teams went to states. When he was eleven nine of the twelve went on to play college ball at some level. The next year while still winning districts, sections and going to states only three kids went on to college ball. Two were repeats from the previous season.

On the second team only five went on to high school ball. The team was loaded with athletes who outran and outmuscled the small field. Most games were “bombs away.” But once on the 60/90 they weren’t baseball players. Most of them were at least all conference in high school if not future college athletes in other sports.

Very true. Our league had a state champ team where 11/13 are playing in college. The kids two years ahead of my son have 0/13. The team one year ahead has 1 potential (no offers yet).

There’s a kid in the next town over that was all-everything but didn’t play LL. He made team USA for 12u or something like that and did all kinds of top “showcases” for that age. He’s now a slightly above average 2022 with no offers.

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