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Came across a nice article that a lot of dads may be able to relate and thought I'd share.

Enjoy.

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One of the best things about being the parent of a child who plays sports is having the opportunity to ride shot-gun with him on his journey through all the inevitable ups and downs. Yep, I’m one of those dads who subscribes to the theory that I’m not living vicariously through my son but that I am living vicariously with my son.
My son plays for a select baseball team in North Texas. I’ve been there when he hit his first home run over the fence as a 10 year old and I was also there at a national tournament semi-final game when he struck out with two outs in the last inning of an 8-7 game with the bases loaded. I am eternally grateful to have been with him at both events. Watching my son circle the bases was an indescribable feeling that left me speechless. He felt great about the home run but selfish or not, I viewed it as a gift to me for all the batting practice pitches I had thrown to him when he was younger. Being there to give him a hug after he struck out and reassure him that the sun would rise the next day was my gift to him.
A parent can choose to either be apathetic or passionate about following their kids in sports. There is not anything wrong with being passionate as long as there is some kind of governor in place. I want my son to be passionate and do more than just play the game, I want him to learn all the life lessons the game teaches and absorb the mind vitamins that can only help him get through and understand the path his own life will eventually travel.
Playing select baseball is all about handling failure and never quitting. One of the most valuable things a young man can learn to prepare him for life is that getting knocked down is not a big deal but staying down is. Baseball also teaches kids that are two kinds of people who play the game. Those who are humble and those who are about to be. When you fail in one at bat, you better have a short memory and the ability to turn the page or your baseball career will end shortly. Have these lessons sunk in with him? I don’t know but he can never say he wasn’t told.
The relationship you have with your child as you watch them compete in sports can be delicate waters to navigate. At all times you need to be a cheerleader but sometimes you are a psychiatrist while other times you have to carry a whip and a chair. Some kids need a verbal kick in the tail while others need to be constantly reassured. The lucky kids are matched with the parents who recognize what their child needs.
Parents want their children to get the most out of their own ability no matter what gift they have been blessed with but parents also carry the baggage of experience. It is human nature to ask yourself what you would have done differently if given a second chance. Being there with your kid doesn’t necessarily give you a second chance but it does allow you the possibility to use your own experiences wisely.
My father supported me when I was playing sports but he took a Jeffersonian laissez-faire approach and pretty much left me alone. Maybe he knew a little scaling back wouldn’t have hurt because as a kid I would routinely put my baseball uniform on 6-7 hours before a game and practice sliding on our shag carpet in the sunken living room. Still, I wish he would have pushed me harder so I wouldn’t have to go through life wondering what could have been. My athletic ceiling was limited but I never came close to reaching it because I wasn’t pushed. I wasn’t even nudged.
How do I know if I’m pushing too hard? I really don’t but I am cognizant that life is way too short not to have fun and that doing all the things other 13 year old boys do is every bit as important for his own development as playing baseball. My challenge is to nudge him just enough so that when he is 45 years old he will be grateful that his dad helped him touch his athletic ceiling. As long as he wants to play the Great Game, I’m there for him.
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Great post, I like it.

I also found out as a parent that the older the player gets,
The more you have to back away.
And let them find there own way of dealing with it.
Whatever IT is.
We're there for support.

I've backed away a lot the last 4 to 5 years, Son is 20yrs. old now.
I just applaud and cheer now.
But even at age 12-13 I realized then that as a Parent I was going to need to back away if I wanted him to grow as a Player.
It's hard to do it as a parent, you want to help.
Sometime's the best help is to back away??

EH
I never had to back away with my daughter (softball). I've learned with my son at fifteen I have to back away, let him fall down and ask for help. The car rides are great bonding time if you allow it to be rather than a critique of the game.

My eyes welled up when my daughter told me every time she gets on a team bus or plane in college she thinks of her rides to travel tournaments with me. I assumed the best rather than "not another long trip!" Smile
I think that in everyone's path there is someone who will influence the athlete to get where they should be with some tough love.

My husband and I both agree that maybe if we had pushed harder to work harder in HS maybe he would have gone pro first. It wasn't us who gave the tough love later on but someone else is owed that credit.

For all of us parents it's about finding the balance of not being too overbearing while not being too laid back if the player shows the talent. I looked at my job as raising a child first, then an athlete second.
Never should a parent push the envelope because that is what THEY want. If you live vicariously through your player, it should be on the sidelines unless they ask for your assistance or seem to lose their way.

JMO.
This is an interesting thread because I've often felt there is a fine line between pushing too hard and not pushing hard enough. There is the example of Ichiro's father who pushed him hard.. so hard that he often refused to let his son see his friends. I think it shows. As good a player Ichiro is, he sometimes seems detached as a person and almost machine-like. That's too bad.

On the other hand, a player without a father giving him a nudge (or sometimes a swift kick in the hiney) will usually not suceed in baseball. My apologies to the ladies, but it is a man's game and without dad or a male mentor he is at a huge disadvantage.

Baseball is first and foremost a game of passion. There are so many other games that are faster, more exciting, more thrill-seeking.. baseball is methodical and demanding in its application. It takes the sure-handedness of a guiding father to encourage, support, and sometimes kick-butt to keep on keep on.
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Originally posted by ChicksDigTheLongBall:
Just curious but where did academics fall on the priority chart next to baseball? Sounds like second place...


Curious response! What, in any of those previous posts, was any suggestion of that academics were not a priority. Have I missed something? I'm presently going through the same experiences with my child. Sure the games and practices are great. However, there are so many other facets of my child's life not mentioned on these sites. One would be her remarkable GPA. Again, I don't understand your remark.
Bum, there's always an exception to the rule. In this house, I'm the former athlete. Not my husband, who never played a sport (his mom was afraid he'd get hurt.) The person counseling my son about practices, commitment, grit, working through tough times, sportsmanship, etc. and finding instruction, researching travel teams, dealing with coaches, is/has been me. Hubby is on board and hugely supportive, but his street cred is limited in the realm of athletics. Maybe baseball IS a man's game, but the catalyst behind every player isn't necessarily a man.
quillgirl,

Great point.. I guess I can appreciate your perspective and good job in motivating your son. But I still feel that most players who have their dads mentoring them are at an advantage over the ones that don't.. but this is obviously not true in your case. Sorry for the generalization.
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Originally posted by quillgirl:
Bum, there's always an exception to the rule. In this house, I'm the former athlete. Not my husband, who never played a sport (his mom was afraid he'd get hurt.) The person counseling my son about practices, commitment, grit, working through tough times, sportsmanship, etc. and finding instruction, researching travel teams, dealing with coaches, is/has been me. Hubby is on board and hugely supportive, but his street cred is limited in the realm of athletics. Maybe baseball IS a man's game, but the catalyst behind every player isn't necessarily a man.


Good for you quillgirl.

Your son may or may not express appreciation for your efforts now but down the road he will realize what a great mom he had.
Thanks.

The article was written by a man/dad about his son, but he actually addressed "parents of athletes" throughout it, and not necessarily only dads. As evidenced in this forum, there are a lot of baseball moms who do more than pack the cooler, wash the uniform, and cheer from the bleachers.

My hubby will tell you straight up: the boys get their ability from their mom's side and are where they are because of their mom. Father's Day cards from the boys read "Thanks for coming to all my games and supporting me," but Mother's Day cards say, "Thanks for helping me get as far as I have in baseball."
And then you have the mothers of HS players who do not attend games and could care less and think the husband is "looney toons" for spending all that time on a baseball field with his son(s)---that is why my ex is the ex---she did not attend many of the sons game much less his final HS game not the summer championship game---

The kids who have supportive moms, be they single moms or married, are to consider themselves very fortunate

My wife now of 11 years is totally different---she drives me to tournaments to scout kids and is behind all the kids 100%


Every coin has two sides
TRHit, glad you found a partner who fit into your (and son's) life so much better. Sorry about the ex.

We have friends who think we are "looney toons" for being present at most games/functions our kids participate in. (That includes jazz band concerts and swim meets.)

My hubby's BF shook his head and rolled his eyes last week when we said we'll be at a tourney next week instead of coming to their 4th of July party. "Why do you invest so much time in that baseball stuff? Let your kids live their lives and you live yours..." I almost cried. We have two more years with older son and four with younger, and I ain't missing a minute of it. Invite me to a BBQ when they're gone and maybe I'll come.
Having 2 boys, 18 & 22, I have noticed through the years that the parents that are involved with their kids activities seem to have close relationships with their children. I believe in parenting what you put into it is what you get out of it. Meaning, be involved and supportive (but not overbearing), share all the fun times of tournaments etc with the kids and you'll have a much happier family.

And, yes, friends and relatives do have a hard time understanding why we'd rather be at a game with our son than a BBQ with friends (plenty of time for that later).
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Originally posted by iheartbb:
Very good point Quillgirl.

I have also seen many Dads who "Mentor" their boys right out of baseball (or other sports).

I do agree that the players that have someone in their lives that reveal the secrets to the complex game of baseball probably do have an advantage.


I completely empathize with you. My son hopefully has five more years of select & high school baseball and all of us are still having fun watching him. I have the rest of my life to play golf or do other things but I'd rather watch my son play baseball.

He's played 55 games this year and also had 10 scrimmages. They've been going at it since late January. We have one more tournament and then go to nationals so we may be looking at 12-16 more games in the season ...and I'm sad that the finish line to this season is in sight.

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