A+ ML Throw out at 2B.

A lot of big league catchers are in the 1.6s. Replay stolen base attempts on tivo next season and use a stopwatch yourself. I've timed plenty of times in the 1.6s.

Just yesterday on MLB Network, they showed 2004 ALCS Game 4 where Dave Roberts stole second in the 9th inning. Posada's pop was 1.61! and Roberts STILL MADE IT!!! It didn't help that Mariano Reviera was about 1.5 getting to the plate on that pitch but it still gives you a sense of Roberts' speed on the basepaths.

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Originally posted by greenmachine:
A lot of big league catchers are in the 1.6s. Replay stolen base attempts on tivo next season and use a stopwatch yourself. I've timed plenty of times in the 1.6s.

I've never seen anyone remotely close to a 1.6anything...Will you post some video of Cs throwing that quickly?

The catcher begins in a runners-on stance-- level thighs-- then bounces his tail down/up as he receives.

Is that typical?

Instructive to see that on a 1.8 the catcher nevertheless stuck the pitch--for a nano-second, but he stuck it.

I'm with Coach Xan in that I've never seen a 1.6. The best is around a low 1.9 and MAYBE a high 1.8.

I've seen 1.8 in showcases but never in game action. Johnny Bench, maybe.

I think it's important that everybody realizes that there is a giant difference between a 1.89 and a 1.80. There certainly are a lot of guys that throw in the 1.8s (1.89, 1.88, 1.87)...but almost no one throws a 1.80.

When I read posts and they say 1.8 or 1.9, I'm reading that as 1.80 and 1.90.

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Originally posted by greenmachine:
A lot of big league catchers are in the 1.6s. Replay stolen base attempts on tivo next season and use a stopwatch yourself. I've timed plenty of times in the 1.6s...

Uhhhhhh...no. There are no 1.6's out there. I've timed many of the throws as redbirdjr is a catcher.

Two springs ago, I was watching Andrew Susac (Oregon State's current starting catcher, and whom PGjerry referred to that year as the best throwing high school catcher in the nation) throw out a runner in a high school game with a 1.79. The scouts there, four or five of them, had times on that throw that ranged from 1.76-1.81. One of the scouts commented "That's just wrong", to which I asked him "What is wrong, that he throws better than 1/2 of the catchers in MLB"? His comeback was that 75% of catchers in MLB probably couldn't make a throw with that time.

Nobody throws legitimate 1.6s. Nobody. A 1.8-anything is an outstanding in game time. Lots of in-game throws get runners with 2 flat or thereabouts, as there is a lot more to great throwing than just pop times.

geeez,1.6 really, seriously? catchers that i saw in brevard county florida at the advanced "A" all-star game last year at best threw high 1.8's and not every time. who knows , maybe your right J.W. kids today are coming out bigger, stronger,faster, and smarter.

I guess I have a quick finger?? idk..i mean if no one else has seen it then I could be wrong.

I used to time the pop times on tivo when they were playing in the summer...I did see a few throws from a few different catchers in the 1.65-1.7 range. I replayed the same throw over and over to make sure it was accurate because i didn't think it could be right.

Sorry I don't have any video because I usually just take the times in the game i happen to be watching on tv at the time. ..maybe when they start playing again i'd be able to get them on here somehow by videoing the tv with my phone and uploading.

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Originally posted by greenmachine:
I guess I have a quick finger?? idk..i mean if no one else has seen it then I could be wrong...

I DID see it on MLB. Posada's throw was to the SS side of the bag. My best time of the 3 was 1.85.

Yeah i have to be doing something wrong then...thanks for correcting me..i had a hard time believing it myself