A moderators work is never done

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Oh c'mon rz...sing along!




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Before you get yourself wound up, the initial thread was not off limits although it might have been moved (e.g, to unusual) if it were in the baseball season.

The original thread was about Pete Carroll and it turned into what type of kids attend USC. Maybe you didn't mean it that way (insulting) but that is how it came across imho. Since the thread was causing discord between members and it seemed like it was deteriorating "away" from the original topic, I closed it. Since it was not a baseball topic, I took the further step to remove it.

CD, Wound up? me? There was absolutely no intent to insult any specific individual in that thread and I even admitted to being a Carroll supporter. Maybe now I'm getting a little wound

Seems to me as a not "what you say", but "who is being bothered" deletion. I didn't see this "circle the wagons" moderator support when Bowden and FL ST were being discussed.

Better question: are we still in the United States of America????

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I missed the whole thread. I'll put my Mitch Miller humor back on the shelf!

Carry on.

And Tx...now your post makes sense. Very clever!



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Yes indeed!



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One of the most powerful words in the hsbaseballweb vocabulary!

Why couldn't the alledged offending post be deleted and the thread remain?

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Better question: are we still in the United States of America????

TR,
If someone comes into your house, do they have the right to say anything the want? No, even though your house is in the USA, your house is private property and you have the right to grant permissions about who can enter, who can't, and you alone have the right to set forth a code of conduct. It can be anything you want, because it's your house, you own it, you make the rules.

The HSBBW is no different. It is private property, owned and paid for by a private entity. They alone get to set the rights and permissions of use.

People want to come to your house, they abide by your rules, people want to come the the HSBBW house, they abide by house rules. There are no constitutional freedoms granted for either.

If speaking your peace is your main objective, you can go purchase a domain name, pay for the hosting, build the website, and say whatever you like, and no one can tell you, you can't. That's the United States of America you're looking for.

TR...just pretend you're Elaine.

CPLZ

You are so wrong---in my house--on the front lawn--in my back yard with the grille going---yes they can say what they want--I may not agree with them nor may other guests-- but I don't throw them out or "virtually " erase them----

THERE IS NO DEBATE IF THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH--what you people are creating here is a site without free speech


My God are you so wrong

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Originally posted by TRhit:
CPLZ

You are so wrong---in my house--on the front lawn--in my back yard with the grille going---yes they can say what they want--I may not agree with them nor may other guests-- but I don't throw them out or "virtually " erase them----

THERE IS NO DEBATE IF THERE IS NO FREE SPEECH--what you people are creating here is a site without free speech


My God are you so wrong

No, he is correct. Should anyone come into my house, invited or not, and insult my wife, they will be leaving. They have no free speech in my home and I do not have to tolerate boorish behavior.

The constitutional protection of "freedom of speech" protects one from censorship by the government, and as courts have ruled, agencies or agents of the government. The courts have also expanded that to include any entity that is supported by the government, such as schools and public transit organizations.

Web sites are privately owned. The owners may elect to moderate posts and use any criteria they choose.

The so called "Bill of Rights" protects us from our government, not our neighbors. Civics 101. There are other laws that protect us from each other.

On a semi-related note: I have the utmost repsect for the moderators here. I would not want the job. I may disagree with their actions from time to time, but I would never question their motives. I have seen some sites where the moderators get right down in the mud with idiot poster and become part of the problem rather than the solution.

I think the moderators at HSBBW strike a good balance of allowing an appropriate amount of debate and off-topic material before getting involved.

I wasn't aware of the controversy about the original thread while it was occurring. I don't know exactly what was said, or who took sides.

But I can attest to the truth and accuracy of this thread's title:

"A moderator's work is never done."

The title probably was not meant to compliment any moderators here, but I'll use it anyway.

We've discussed this before. The HS Baseball Web forums would not exist as a family-friendly, safe community without the unselfish and endless work of our moderators.

Do I expect members to always agree with moderator decisions? NO. Do all moderators even agree with other moderators' decisions? NO. Some decisions are made that are different from what I might have done. And sometimes moderators won't agree with my decisions either, which is okay.

It can be very time-consuming for moderators to monitor threads that have grown argumentative or are stepping over the lines of the Board Manners (for example by mentioning players in a non-positive way, etc.). Moderators are part-time, unpaid volunteers and do not have time to constantly monitor that type of thread. Sometimes they may choose to close it. If there were derogatory statements made in the thread, they may choose to delete it. (My monthly hosting bill does include a charge for total number of posts stored.)

This isn't the first time we've had the type of discussion above, and it won't be the last. But I'm hoping that now we can all go back to discussing baseball, or the weather, or Burt Blyleven being passed over for the Hall of Fame again.

Julie

By the way, I consider the member who started this thread a friend, and also consider most of the members who have posted on either side of this discussion to be my friends. No intent on my part to take sides or dictate anything. Just a friendly request for understanding.


Julie

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Hmmm? I wonder? Was it something I said?






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And the most respected name in the HSSBBWEB vocabulary!



Disclaimer: This is not an actual photo nor am I attempting to describe what MN-Mom looks like ( although she probably is dressed in purple with Viking horns waiting for Sundays game).

quote:

Originally posted by TRhit:
in my house--on the front lawn--in my back yard with the grille going---yes they can say what they want--I may not agree with them nor may other guests-- but I don't throw them out or "virtually " erase them----

They may say what they want at your home, because you grant them the right, they don't have that right unless you provide it. That doesn't mean that everyone has or should do it your way. Part of the freedoms granted by our Constitution and Bill of Rights is our ability to treat our private property any way we see fit. That's what give you your rights in your house, my rights in mine, and HSBBW's rights on its private website. Another part of being a free society, is that you nor anyone else can tell another how or what they may or have to do with their private property.