A note about PG

It is uncanny ... when you couple their scouting prowess with their supportive presence here, anyone would be foolish not to heed the PG invitation when it comes.

not to bust on PG parade but they do scouting reports on just about every Hs player in the USA because they host over 70 HS showcases and tournaments a year. About 25,000 players a year.

Have noticed they rarely report about players with major issues off the field, which very much effects where they go in the draft and how they do in pro ball.

Frank,

Read carefully.

It is about the accuracy of their pre-draft reports - not about the quantity.

It is too early to say how accurate any scouting reports are. I would say look back at the 2002 scouting reports on the draft and see where the players currently are.

Frank,

Read it again.

They were very accurate in their projection of the draft.

Noone said anything about future performance.

Geeze!

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Originally posted by Frank Martin:
they do scouting reports on just about every Hs player in the USA because they host over 70 HS showcases and tournaments a year.

I thought PG did a VERY good job, also.

My son, unfortunately, never attended a PG event, yet that did not stop them from putting together a very detailed scouting report on him.

I hate to put a damper on this but I have to say that PG was wrong about where#21 would go in the draft. However, I agree with the report 95% and believe PG was right and MLB got it wrong.
This IMO was not a first round pick and quite honestly probably should not have been picked in the first 2 rounds. Excellent evaluation PG!

PG is first-class, but I wish they would do some Northwest showcases. Since my son is a LHP I checked all the LHP's from the Northwest in the draft. Of the 9 LHP's drafted from the NW, none of them attended a PG event.

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It is uncanny ... when you couple their scouting prowess with their supportive presence here, anyone would be foolish not to heed the PG invitation when it comes.

It is obvious that PG does a great job in scouting players and PG Staff is one of the most respected posters on the HSBBW. But I wonder what the correlation is between correctly projecting where player "A" will be drafted and what impact that has on player "B" and hundreds of other players? Why are players foolish if they fail to attend a PG event? Profession baseball does not draft players based on PG information. Just the opposite. PG compiles the draft positions with the help of professional baseball. A great weather forecaster can accurately predict the rain but that does not alter the weather. PG predicted where my son would be drafted. It was fun to read that information but I didn’t feel foolish for not taking my son to a PG event.
Fungo

Fungo,
Well, "foolish" was the wrong word choice on my part.

I think my son didn't think the PG showcases were all that important but I had gotten an all together different impression when I started reading about them here a few years ago.

Based on that, I felt my kid was missing a good opportunity when he disregarded initial invites, mainly because no one he knew personally at the time had ever heard of them or been to one. (we kind of live off the beaten path)

So, again, that was poorly worded on my part - sorry for that negative twist.

I should have said they come highly recommended and if a kid has any way of going, our family has come to believe it's a good idea.

Switching gears, I didn't know that PG wrote up reports on kids that did NOT attend their events. That's a new one to me. How does anyone ever see or know about those reports or are they just for professional eyes only?

And speaking about Scouting Reports, I never knew ESPN had them too until one of my other sons and I saw one on my ball player after this years draft. How are those compiled and how do they factor in to team's selections?

It has been noted here on several occasions that you do not have to attend a PG event for scouting reports.

Their detailed reports can be seen online for a fee, same for most companies that do the same (ex. Baseball America).

I saw two reports on my son before the draft, MLB's and Baseball America's . Just a few days ago I saw the report on my son by PG , compiled by Alan Simpson (I think).

ESPN's scouting reports are compiled from the reports that are compiled by some or all of the above.

A team that is considering drafting a player in early rounds usually will have the drafting scout make several visits, crosscheckers, scouting directors, etc. I am not sure how much reliance is placed upon reports from scouting services. Maybe PG can elaborate.

On a positive note, I do know that coaches and scouts that have not seen players, will rely on these reports for further consideration. In other words, if a college coach from the east is interested in a player from a different geographic area, he needs a set of reliable eyes for recommendations as to the abilities of that player.

Note to all you "lurkers" (a fond term around here): everything positively stated about PG is true, there are others also...remember they are just one of the tools you can use to navigate your player. Do not let what anyone says be the "end-call", last word or otherwise. Work hard, use the negative to make a positive...if you are good they will find you...usually. MLB messes up (2004#1?), PG misses I presume, and scouts frequently smoke cigars and gab with each other while your son makes an amazing play . I believe PG posted an observation about how rumors (untrue) often cause a players stock to fall. Don't sweat it. Don't fret about stats...the things that make your player able to move to the next level are often not tangible. You cannot make it happen, you cannot engineer it to happen...He can work hard, stay mentally tough and then just maybe those intangibles wll make it happen. You are far better off just enjoying the journey.

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A team that is considering drafting a player in early rounds usually will have the drafting scout make several visits, crosscheckers, scouting directors, etc. I am not sure how much reliance is placed upon reports from scouting services. Maybe PG can elaborate.

Any scouting service is only as good as the results they produce. Furthermore, scouting services are used more for identification purposes rather than decision making. Once a player is identified as a prospect by a reliable source, the colleges and MLB scouting departments will see the player and determine "for themself" what they believe is that players value to "them". They write their own reports, which can agree or disagree with what we think. Their report is the most important one! Interesting is, there can be a lot of different reports submitted on the same exact player. People don't always agree and that's what makes scouting so tough and interesting.

Note: I really appreciate this thread because in this case I agree with everything that has been written in every post. That hardly ever happens.

One thing does bug us however. All our reports are written after actually "SEEING" the player! Scouting reports should never come from second hand information. Some of the most accurate reports are not written by journalists... They are written by scouts and some of those reports can not be published for the whole world to see.