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I have never been and umpire and although I have had my fair share of interactions with the over the years I confess that understanding them fully has eluded me.  A few days ago I saw some really interesting interactions that I will call "The tale of two catchers"  For whatever reason the home plate umpire selected a day with 45 degree temperatures and 20 mph sustained winds to have an extremely tight and at times inconsistent strike zone. 

Catcher 1 began by freezing boarder line pitches and allowing the umpire to make the call.  Almost all went against his team (3 walks in the first inning) and so (being right at the backstop) I could hear as the catcher began to look over his shoulder and say to the umpire "little low blue?" and the umpire would nod..."missed out didn't we?" and the umpire would nod.  In the second inning he froze all obvious strikes but stopped freezing close pitches and just tossed them back to the pitcher and he stopped asking the umpire.  Third inning through the end of the game he began to start the freezes more and more to the corners and by the fourth was back out to the original freeze point but now getting almost all going his pitchers way.

Catcher 2 began freezing boarder line pitches with the same results.  He began to shake his head...then after one pitch was called a ball (looked almost perfect from behind the plate) he stood up and looked at his dugout and threw his hands in the air.  As the game went on his frustration as well as his coaches grew and grew until they were groaning or making gestures at nearly every call.

The more calls catcher 1 got the more upset catcher 2 and his coach became.  So here is the crux.  I do not believe that the umpire had any intention of treating the pitchers or their team or the coaches differently or unfairly.  I believe at the end of the game he would have been adamant that he called the zone the same for either team.  Sitting behind the plate I know that although the zones started the same as the game progressed they did in fact differ.

I grew up in the Earl Weaver kick dirt on the Umps shoes when you were upset and at the professional level I never saw those tactics help or hurt the Orioles.  My question is...In HS and lower level baseball today where we live in a kinder and gentler world and the umpires are part time and vary in training and skill do the negative or demonstrative reactions of players and coaches ultimately hurt rather than help the teams?

 

 

 

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As the parent of a pitcher, I appreciate the spirit in which other parents of teammates get on the umpire for "bad" calls when my kid is on the mound.  That said, I often prefer that they not vocalize any criticism, but maybe simply give a little cheer for a called ball that looked "good" - sort of an encouraging cheer for both the pitcher and the umpire.  My kid has gotten to the point where he does not show any frustration on calls that go against him and he has good catchers that do not show any annoyance.  All that doesn't help when some parent starts in on the umpire on the first or second batter of the game.

I am of the opinion that most umpires are trying real hard to call a good game.  I believe that a good umpire may know when he made a less than perfect call (thus the encouraging cheer so he gets the next one right).  I also believe that some umpires do get impacted by criticism as they are simply human.  Lastly, when the players and coaches go overboard, I have no problem with umpires making their displeasure known (even if they slightly tilt the scales on a call or two - I know purist umpires don't necessarily appreciate that view).

I was once at a baseball game at the Astrodome.  End of game, a blow out late in another losing season for the Astros.  Last three innings, a victim of the rather large "One Dollar Dome Foams" moves to the front row seats right behind home plate and relentlessly heckles the umpire on every pitch. His voice bellows through the very empty dome, echo and all.  Umpire rings up the last Astro hitter, heckler heckles more, umpire jogs between gates to leave the field just underneath the heckler.  Just as he gets to the gate, the umpire looks up, smiles and says "Get Better Seats!".

Sometimes the groan and moan crowd at youth baseball games need to move directly behind home plate and take a better look at the pitches.  If that is not enough, gear up at your local little league and try it out.

2017LHPscrewball posted:

As the parent of a pitcher, I appreciate the spirit in which other parents of teammates get on the umpire for "bad" calls when my kid is on the mound.  That said, I often prefer that they not vocalize any criticism, but maybe simply give a little cheer for a called ball that looked "good" - sort of an encouraging cheer for both the pitcher and the umpire.  My kid has gotten to the point where he does not show any frustration on calls that go against him and he has good catchers that do not show any annoyance.  All that doesn't help when some parent starts in on the umpire on the first or second batter of the game.

I am of the opinion that most umpires are trying real hard to call a good game.  I believe that a good umpire may know when he made a less than perfect call (thus the encouraging cheer so he gets the next one right).  I also believe that some umpires do get impacted by criticism as they are simply human.  Lastly, when the players and coaches go overboard, I have no problem with umpires making their displeasure known (even if they slightly tilt the scales on a call or two - I know purist umpires don't necessarily appreciate that view).

We refer to that as "That was a close miss pitcher!"  I think that is acknowledging that the umpire is in control and we aren't questioning him but also that the pitcher was doing his job.

Umpires and referees are frustrating for sure. Probably the less said the better.  And the story seems to fit what I have seen over the years. The truly great ones are the ones who can communicate like a decent human being.  Explain things and admit when they blew one.  When a ref would run past the bench and just say 'hey coach I missed that one' it immediately disarmed me.  I probably screwed a few things up with my coaching as well.  We are human.  Once when my son was pitching and a bunch of us were directly behind the plate he called ball four on a full count.   We all kind of groaned but nobody yelled at him. Between innings he came back and said 'I blew that call'. Our only reaction was don't sweat it it happens.  

Its the guys who blow the call then scream at you to prove they are in charge that get you going. Unfortunately this seems to be the majority. 

2020dad posted:

Umpires and referees are frustrating for sure. Probably the less said the better.  And the story seems to fit what I have seen over the years. The truly great ones are the ones who can communicate like a decent human being.  Explain things and admit when they blew one.  When a ref would run past the bench and just say 'hey coach I missed that one' it immediately disarmed me.  I probably screwed a few things up with my coaching as well.  We are human.  Once when my son was pitching and a bunch of us were directly behind the plate he called ball four on a full count.   We all kind of groaned but nobody yelled at him. Between innings he came back and said 'I blew that call'. Our only reaction was don't sweat it it happens.  

Its the guys who blow the call then scream at you to prove they are in charge that get you going. Unfortunately this seems to be the majority. 

Once when my kid was pitching in 14U an umpire called a walk on the second pitch. The count was 2-0 and he sent the batter to first base. That caused a bit of a ruckus amongst the coaches and parents!

I have seen other umps ask the scorekeepers what the count is. A little humility goes a long way.

2019Dad posted:
2020dad posted:

Umpires and referees are frustrating for sure. Probably the less said the better.  And the story seems to fit what I have seen over the years. The truly great ones are the ones who can communicate like a decent human being.  Explain things and admit when they blew one.  When a ref would run past the bench and just say 'hey coach I missed that one' it immediately disarmed me.  I probably screwed a few things up with my coaching as well.  We are human.  Once when my son was pitching and a bunch of us were directly behind the plate he called ball four on a full count.   We all kind of groaned but nobody yelled at him. Between innings he came back and said 'I blew that call'. Our only reaction was don't sweat it it happens.  

Its the guys who blow the call then scream at you to prove they are in charge that get you going. Unfortunately this seems to be the majority. 

Once when my kid was pitching in 14U an umpire called a walk on the second pitch. The count was 2-0 and he sent the batter to first base. That caused a bit of a ruckus amongst the coaches and parents!

I have seen other umps ask the scorekeepers what the count is. A little humility goes a long way.

Agreed. It may still upset you but you are not going to go off on them. A little humility begets a lot of compassion and understanding. 

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