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Wow...that totally sucks, and it is perspective that our players cannot afford to have until/if ever confronted by it.
As Dirk stated, as a competitor, you can't live in fear of "what if's". You go out there and give it 100%, or you really are not worthy of the game.
My son pitched 7+ innings today, not too sure of the pitch count yet...left the mound with a 4-2 lead over Palm Beach. Ended up getting a ND after 10 innings of play. I don't know if it is possible to ask a player to be careful...or think too far ahead...it's one game at a time until you can't do it any more...
All my best to Dirk and pray that he is able to come back and his meal ticket works again.
As Dirk stated, as a competitor, you can't live in fear of "what if's". You go out there and give it 100%, or you really are not worthy of the game.
My son pitched 7+ innings today, not too sure of the pitch count yet...left the mound with a 4-2 lead over Palm Beach. Ended up getting a ND after 10 innings of play. I don't know if it is possible to ask a player to be careful...or think too far ahead...it's one game at a time until you can't do it any more...
All my best to Dirk and pray that he is able to come back and his meal ticket works again.
This is a great example of why you get a college degree so you have a backup "meal ticket" other than your baseball talent
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
This is a great example of why you get a college degree so you have a backup "meal ticket" other than your baseball talent
He's not a good example because he's educated. Try to find another better example. He's got a gift and it's not just in baseball.
My son read his article with me and he said that he puts it down real well on paper, amazing actually he could relate to what he was saying, and we are looking forward to purchasing his book, The Bullpen Gospels.
TPM
What are on my case for---I know he is educated from Kent State University--once again I say to you read what I post not what you want to read with the venom in your eyes--- I am not sure he has a degree because I did not see it in his bio--
Did I say he did not have a gift--I made a statement as to this is great example as to why you get your college degree--Lady you need to read better
What are on my case for---I know he is educated from Kent State University--once again I say to you read what I post not what you want to read with the venom in your eyes--- I am not sure he has a degree because I did not see it in his bio--
Did I say he did not have a gift--I made a statement as to this is great example as to why you get your college degree--Lady you need to read better
Floridafan,
7 innings of work and an ND is so frustrating for a pitcher, trust me on that one.
7 innings of work and an ND is so frustrating for a pitcher, trust me on that one.
Floridafan
Was it a ND for the game as well ?
Was it a ND for the game as well ?
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
TPM
What are on my case for---I know he is educated from Kent State University--once again I say to you read what I post not what you want to read with the venom in your eyes--- I am not sure he has a degree because I did not see it in his bio--
Did I say he did not have a gift--I made a statement as to this is great example as to why you get your college degree--Lady you need to read better
No, you need to make some better posts (also some better topics). You said this was a good example of why you should go to college, to get a backup meal ticket, did you not say that, is that what you meant, explain yourself as to exactly what you meant. I was thinking that you were talking about Dirk not having a backup.
That's what you demand from others, if they don't get the point across you are on their case. Follow your own advice.
Addressing me as Lady (Queen, whatever you think is appropriate) is very chauvanistic and ......degrading.
Lady
I do mind telling you--you get what you deserve--others may not want to tell you but I will-- you do not always know what what you speak of--
I do mind telling you--you get what you deserve--others may not want to tell you but I will-- you do not always know what what you speak of--
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
Lady
I do mind telling you--you get what you deserve--others may not want to tell you but I will-- you do not always know what what you speak of--
You go after people here all of the time, with venom, but you don't like it huh?
I don't mind telling you--you will get what you deserve, others may not tell you but I will, most here don't like your cranky, demanding replies, how you go after poeple and how you ruin posts. You have been wrong on MANY occassions yourself so quit with that garbage, that's old, it doesn't work anymore TR.
There now how does that feel?
Hey, you were so excited about the hockey game, but you couldn't draw yourself away from here, could you?
We actually ended up losing in the 10th. It was an exciting game though, well worth the 7 hour round trip!
I think this article is just "normal" for professional baseball. Kinda like a crash in NASCAR or a death in a war. Well written and interesting but if it were written as a exposé of pitching at the professional level it does nothing but state the obvious. Career ending injuries to pitchers are much more common than pitching in a MLB All Star game.
Fungo
AND --- Fear of injury is way down on my list for a reason to get an education.
Fungo
Fungo
AND --- Fear of injury is way down on my list for a reason to get an education.
Fungo
We talk about the slim odds of making it to ML and most players think they can beat the odds because of their talent... I never realized how many players leave or released because of career ending injuries not because of lack of talent.
I can think of MANY of sons team mates who were fit and healty and bam one day they have an injury that ends their career. Its a long season and a great deal of wear and tear on the body....
I can think of MANY of sons team mates who were fit and healty and bam one day they have an injury that ends their career. Its a long season and a great deal of wear and tear on the body....
quote:Originally posted by Fungo:
AND --- Fear of injury is way down on my list for a reason to get an education.
Fungo
I agree, in fact, many top pitchers opt to go pro out of HS to avoid injury (added wear and tear). Their fear is not about losing out on a college education, but missing out on their chance.
This topic was not meant to become a discussion on why one should or should not go to college, just an insight from Dirk, whom many of us enjoy following.
BTW, here's a link to his website, http://www.dirkhayhurst.com/Di....com/Welcome%21.html
Read his book and really enjoyed it!
Not sure how sobering it is.
Injuries used to a part of the game and career ending event.
Today, MLB access to medical technology has adapted well to repairing professional arms
and thru extensive rehab, the body heals.
Arm injury decades ago, it was a career ending episode.
And decades ago, the pro did not make enough lifetime money, and had to have a second
and third career after baseball.
When I read about professional MLB pitcher, who is
undergo arm rehab following arm surgery, who writes:
"Now it's not only my arm that hurts; it's my house payment, car payment, wife and family. It's the gas tank and the heating bill, the appliances and groceries."
And become aware he has made more money from the game than a majority of lower and middle
class Americans, it becomes a reality check scenario.
I got a call a couple of weeks ago, from a young man, with a nice house, nice kids, nice wife
and nice parents. He stated he was retiring from his 12 year MLB career, soon, and
was seeking something to do. I stated that if I am not mistaken you don't have to
work (he made enough money in baseball so that his grandchildren's grandchildren's do not
need to work for salary). We had lunch this week to talk about it. He remembers the approach I taught 15 years ago, where when his MLB career is over, give something back to the community.
He is now working with the kids in Glen Burnie. That is a sobering reality.
First one comes to mind an
arm injury and self-rehab is Noly.
Injuries used to a part of the game and career ending event.
Today, MLB access to medical technology has adapted well to repairing professional arms
and thru extensive rehab, the body heals.
Arm injury decades ago, it was a career ending episode.
And decades ago, the pro did not make enough lifetime money, and had to have a second
and third career after baseball.
When I read about professional MLB pitcher, who is
undergo arm rehab following arm surgery, who writes:
"Now it's not only my arm that hurts; it's my house payment, car payment, wife and family. It's the gas tank and the heating bill, the appliances and groceries."
And become aware he has made more money from the game than a majority of lower and middle
class Americans, it becomes a reality check scenario.
I got a call a couple of weeks ago, from a young man, with a nice house, nice kids, nice wife
and nice parents. He stated he was retiring from his 12 year MLB career, soon, and
was seeking something to do. I stated that if I am not mistaken you don't have to
work (he made enough money in baseball so that his grandchildren's grandchildren's do not
need to work for salary). We had lunch this week to talk about it. He remembers the approach I taught 15 years ago, where when his MLB career is over, give something back to the community.
He is now working with the kids in Glen Burnie. That is a sobering reality.
First one comes to mind an
arm injury and self-rehab is Noly.