I am 14, 6'1 and 165 lbs. Is 75 mph good for my age hieght and weight? How do i compare to others my age?
Thanks,
Chris
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I don't want to sound mean or anything, but don't you play kids your age? Shouldn't you know how you compare with them. I've seen kids with all different heights and weights throw all different speeds it doesn't matter much. A senior on our team this year was about 6 foot 145 lbs(maybe) and topped out at about 88.
Ya, but im talking about around the nation, but i don't see how much they clock all the other pichers at. I'm just trying to see if the compitition around here is the best of the best or if theres better out there and see if i can match up to that compitition.
The top 14 year old in the country, Robert Stock, cruises 90-92; I would say you are somewhat above average for your age group.
75 for a 14 yr old is good. You have good size and will definitly gain more as you get older. 75 from 54-56 ft or whatever you play at is bringing it pretty good.
90-92? Jeez thats amazing. But i play 60/90, but thank you for your input. I appreciate it a lot.
busch9 -
You are just fine with the speed of your fastball at your age. You appear to have great potential with your size and you have plenty of time yet to work hard at your goals. My suggestion is to work with your parents to find a good pitching coach in your area that can help you with your mechanics and strength training over the next few years. Stop worrying about speed and remember to have fun. It's the best game in town!
You are just fine with the speed of your fastball at your age. You appear to have great potential with your size and you have plenty of time yet to work hard at your goals. My suggestion is to work with your parents to find a good pitching coach in your area that can help you with your mechanics and strength training over the next few years. Stop worrying about speed and remember to have fun. It's the best game in town!
Haha thanks RHP05Parent, I have just started working with Tom Brennan who played on the Los Angeles Dodgers when they won the World Series. Does anyone know of him? He is a very good pitching coach and my first so far.
75 is excellent for your age, keep working.......the right way.
they rank 14 year old kids? that is ridiculous
14 and throwing 90-92...wow...that is incredible...the kid will either be a huge stud or will get over pitched and hurt...hopefully it works out for him
With your size and age you should be throwing 80+ @54 feet to blow batter away. The real test would come when you throw from 60'6. So enjoy it when you have it.
Im 5'10'' 135 pounds and I throw about 70mph from 60 ft and thats considered above average, so Id guess your above average as well.
Who does this Robert Stock play for? I know when I was 12 I played in the Major world series and faced a kid on the OKC Indians throwing 83mph and the next year I was 13 and I saw him once more and he appeared to be throwing harder.
Who does this Robert Stock play for? I know when I was 12 I played in the Major world series and faced a kid on the OKC Indians throwing 83mph and the next year I was 13 and I saw him once more and he appeared to be throwing harder.
I am probably going to get blasted for this one.
At 14, my son (or his parents) could not have cared less what he was throwing, even his height, weight. At 14 he was having fun, concentrating more on school that his stats or what he looked like.
I am completely amazed at what's going on these days. Parents sending their kids to showcases at younger and younger ages, keeping stats, workout programs before they hit puberty and buying radar guns to report back to their sons on their velocity. Guess what, it doesn't mean a thing!!!!! Causes lots of stress on a kid who thinks he should play or look like one of his teasm mates, who may be bigger or faster than him. All kids develop differently and at different times. Busch9, you may have alot more to go, or you may be finished, stop worrying about it.
Go out and have fun, learn how to play, be a kid. Report back with the information when you are 17, 18 and a junior or senior in HS.
At 14, my son (or his parents) could not have cared less what he was throwing, even his height, weight. At 14 he was having fun, concentrating more on school that his stats or what he looked like.
I am completely amazed at what's going on these days. Parents sending their kids to showcases at younger and younger ages, keeping stats, workout programs before they hit puberty and buying radar guns to report back to their sons on their velocity. Guess what, it doesn't mean a thing!!!!! Causes lots of stress on a kid who thinks he should play or look like one of his teasm mates, who may be bigger or faster than him. All kids develop differently and at different times. Busch9, you may have alot more to go, or you may be finished, stop worrying about it.
Go out and have fun, learn how to play, be a kid. Report back with the information when you are 17, 18 and a junior or senior in HS.
TigerPawMom:
I couldn't agree with you more!! What can transpire in a young man's life in a year or two is very hard to speculate at the age of 14. I know you know this because you have been down that road and I am right there behind you.
I couldn't agree with you more!! What can transpire in a young man's life in a year or two is very hard to speculate at the age of 14. I know you know this because you have been down that road and I am right there behind you.
How's "puppy " doing? Will see you next week at regionals?
Puppy is doing just fine. He is scheduled to start on tuesday against the East Cobb Yankees.
See you there!!
See you there!!
I am only 11 I still want to know how good you think i am doing. I am 5ft. 104, I throw 64mph.
kcpoe27,
You are doing very well as far as velocity goes, even assuming that is your top speed. My 12yo son is 5'3", 110 lbs and maxes out at about 64 or 65. He throws 62, 63 consistently and with a good changeup was very effective in LL all-stars and in tournament ball. You project to be throwing high 60s at 12 or even more depending on how much you grow. The key is to protect your arm, improve your control and develop a good change up.
You are doing very well as far as velocity goes, even assuming that is your top speed. My 12yo son is 5'3", 110 lbs and maxes out at about 64 or 65. He throws 62, 63 consistently and with a good changeup was very effective in LL all-stars and in tournament ball. You project to be throwing high 60s at 12 or even more depending on how much you grow. The key is to protect your arm, improve your control and develop a good change up.
I am throwing 75 from 60 feet and i have touched 78 but my average is 75. And yes i agree that i shouldn't worry about all this but it just gives me an idea of where i am at compared to others. Whether or not i should work harder or do more things to get better. I thank all of you for posting your comments.
WOW, who cares about velocity at that age? What, is there a scout there gunning you and telling you your average velocity? I am 19 and my dad just got a gun, because velocity is a little more important at my level.
I have seen guys drop in velocity as they get older, and I have seen huge increases. Just let your body grow, lift weights, run, run, run, and develope. The velocity will come.
Also, something for some of you to think about...75 mph from 56 ft and 60 ft is STILL 75 mph!!! I know that is has less time to get to the plate from a closer distance, but you do not throw harder from a closer distance (guys my age still dont get this concept).
please specify who is gunning you and with what gun. Thanks
I have seen guys drop in velocity as they get older, and I have seen huge increases. Just let your body grow, lift weights, run, run, run, and develope. The velocity will come.
Also, something for some of you to think about...75 mph from 56 ft and 60 ft is STILL 75 mph!!! I know that is has less time to get to the plate from a closer distance, but you do not throw harder from a closer distance (guys my age still dont get this concept).
please specify who is gunning you and with what gun. Thanks
I just watched a kid(13U) this past weekend. He probably threw in the upper 40's with an excellent curve ball. He went 5 innings and ate em up....he had excellent control and when they did hit him it was nothing but dinks.
Busch9
If you want to improve your velocity, which I completely agree is not very important at your age, work on your mechanics. If you have consistent mechanics, you will naturally increase velocity as you grow and gain strength. Any pitching coach worth the money (they aren't cheap!) will tell you the same thing.
Despite what any one on this board tells you about how your velocity is at your age, you always must work hard and do everything possible to improve. It doesn't matter if you are throwing 95 MPH, you would still have lots of areas of your game to work on. All major leaguers always can improve some aspect of their game. The bottom line is that you can never stop working your tail off to become the best ballplayer possible. If you relax, someone else is working hard.
NHBaseball
If you want to improve your velocity, which I completely agree is not very important at your age, work on your mechanics. If you have consistent mechanics, you will naturally increase velocity as you grow and gain strength. Any pitching coach worth the money (they aren't cheap!) will tell you the same thing.
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Whether or not i should work harder or do more things to get better.
Despite what any one on this board tells you about how your velocity is at your age, you always must work hard and do everything possible to improve. It doesn't matter if you are throwing 95 MPH, you would still have lots of areas of your game to work on. All major leaguers always can improve some aspect of their game. The bottom line is that you can never stop working your tail off to become the best ballplayer possible. If you relax, someone else is working hard.
NHBaseball
velocity doesn't mean anything. If you mix your pitches up you should do fine. There's guys in high school, college, and pros who throw 90mph or over and get crushed because they think they throw so hard they dont develop any pitches and think they can just get away with a fastball. Its definitly can be an advantage though.
75 sounds good for a 14 yr old, i am 13 and i have a team mate that cruises 80 and hits 83 at 60 ft
yes young pitchers should only need to focus on location and mechanics--thats it. Speed will come later on--some kids hit puberty earlier than others...if you can master your control, coaches will love that later on. A coach would rather see a 16 year old throwing around 80 who walked one batter in 7 innings than a guy who throws mid 80s who walks 5 or 6 guys a game
I see and coach a lot of 14's and started with my 14's when they were 8. 8 National tournaments in 5 states, I've seen most of what is out there of any quality. 75 is good, but it isn't velocity that makes the majority of good pitchers. The secret to pitching is making the batter guess what you are throwing next. Work on change of speed and location. Master those and you'll be in the top 10% for your age.
yea---you hear of all these kids that are 14 throwing 88-90...and all of these kids who are seniors and juniors at HS throwing supposedly mid 90's---how many pros throw mid to upper 90's? If your talking about starting pitchers i can count them on my hands.
And i believe there is a kid who pitches for GA Tech (for those who dont know, GA tech is one of the top baseball colleges in the country) this kid throws legit 99-103 consistantly for a SP. However, his control is horrible and last year was not in the starting rotation. If a batter hits the ball hes got a 25-35% chance of getting on base. Walk em and its 100%
And i believe there is a kid who pitches for GA Tech (for those who dont know, GA tech is one of the top baseball colleges in the country) this kid throws legit 99-103 consistantly for a SP. However, his control is horrible and last year was not in the starting rotation. If a batter hits the ball hes got a 25-35% chance of getting on base. Walk em and its 100%
I am a junior in high school, i'm 6'1 and 140. I'm skinny but that doesn't always mean a lower velocity. I reached over 80 this year (though i believe radar guns should be outlawed due to the significance put upon them). Pitchers at your age should only be worried about getting outs, if you're getting outs speed shouldn't matter. If you look at the pro's, Maddux hasn't hit 90 in forever, and a yanks pitcher last year threw at changeup at 55 mph. This goes to show that speed doesn't always guarantee outs.
I can tell you that my hitters get tied in knots by guys throwing 78 to 82-- they come back to the bench mumbling " he ain't got nothing" --my answer --"that may be--but look at the scoreboard--are you winning?"--it takes them a few innings to adjust-- the harder the pitcher is throwing the better my guys like it as all good hitters do
The trouble with the 78 to 82 guy is that he has to be sharp and he has no margin for error-- if he is on he can take care of business
The trouble with the 78 to 82 guy is that he has to be sharp and he has no margin for error-- if he is on he can take care of business
I know a very good 15 year old pitcher who is 6 foot 2, around your size, who throws high 70's, so I'd say that you are above average for your age
Hi. I was reading various topics on this board as a guest and I joined specifically to address this topic.
DO NOT become hung up on pitching velocity!
While pitching velocity is important, it is by no means what will make you a successful pitcher.
Sure, throwing the ball by people is a great feeling, but as you get older, things will even out and opposing hitters will catch up. I can tell you from personal experience that velocity alone will not allow you to compete to your full potential. Knowing how to pitch will take you much farther.
Any good hitter can hit a fastball down the middle. Getting hitters out is about upsetting their timing. Control is key. You have to be able to throw the ball where you want to. Having an idea of where to throw the ball at any given time when facing a hitter and being able to deliver the ball there, will greatly improve your chances of success.
A combination of proper conditioning and a continued effort to learn more about the game will take you far. The fact that you're taking the time to seek out knowledge here is an indication that you're headed in the right direction.
Relax and have fun. As you mature and develop, the rest will take care of itself.
Good luck.
DO NOT become hung up on pitching velocity!
While pitching velocity is important, it is by no means what will make you a successful pitcher.
Sure, throwing the ball by people is a great feeling, but as you get older, things will even out and opposing hitters will catch up. I can tell you from personal experience that velocity alone will not allow you to compete to your full potential. Knowing how to pitch will take you much farther.
Any good hitter can hit a fastball down the middle. Getting hitters out is about upsetting their timing. Control is key. You have to be able to throw the ball where you want to. Having an idea of where to throw the ball at any given time when facing a hitter and being able to deliver the ball there, will greatly improve your chances of success.
A combination of proper conditioning and a continued effort to learn more about the game will take you far. The fact that you're taking the time to seek out knowledge here is an indication that you're headed in the right direction.
Relax and have fun. As you mature and develop, the rest will take care of itself.
Good luck.
Sup bucsh,..
I am 15 years old. I have been to very many camps around the nation. I am def. above average and i throw 78-80 mph.. touching 81 and 82 on a good day. I went baseball camps in ohio, iowa, georgia, florida, new york, indiana, texas, illinois, and a few other places... most 14 and 15 year olds throw around 65-70 on average.
I am a sophmore in highschool, my brother just graduated and is now playing college ball. He was the Iowa pitcher of the year last year throwling 80 mph. He had a very effective change up and curve ball. He had the lowest E.R.A. and he carried the team to state that year. That just goes to show that speed means nothing. Hit your spots, change speeds and location the ball. My brother threw a no hitter against a team that was hitting .500, all you need to do is rely on your off speed and your mechanics. If u need more advice, then leave another post.
Belk...
"the harder you work the better you will become,... you cannot teach working hard, you just do it"
I am 15 years old. I have been to very many camps around the nation. I am def. above average and i throw 78-80 mph.. touching 81 and 82 on a good day. I went baseball camps in ohio, iowa, georgia, florida, new york, indiana, texas, illinois, and a few other places... most 14 and 15 year olds throw around 65-70 on average.
I am a sophmore in highschool, my brother just graduated and is now playing college ball. He was the Iowa pitcher of the year last year throwling 80 mph. He had a very effective change up and curve ball. He had the lowest E.R.A. and he carried the team to state that year. That just goes to show that speed means nothing. Hit your spots, change speeds and location the ball. My brother threw a no hitter against a team that was hitting .500, all you need to do is rely on your off speed and your mechanics. If u need more advice, then leave another post.
Belk...
"the harder you work the better you will become,... you cannot teach working hard, you just do it"
quote:Originally posted by busch9:
Whether or not i should work harder or do more things to get better.
you should ALWAYS work hard and do more things to get better or you will get no where
plp556
If you are pitching off a mound 60'6" you are doing excellant!!!
Your speed/MLB speed. 65/80,70/85,75/90,80/95.
Your speed/MLB speed. 65/80,70/85,75/90,80/95.
I am currently having trouble with my speed. I used to be able to hit 70-73 M.P.H. on a 60'6" mound, but now I am only throwing 60 on occasion!!! I am 6'0" at 165, and don't have any pains in my arm. If any one out there can help me, or give any advice, or suggestions, please e-mail me at "stflowe3@aol.com". My name is Sean.
Stflowe3,
I can send you my pitchers workout if you want to get stronger this offseason.
I can send you my pitchers workout if you want to get stronger this offseason.