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I’ll share this from a parental perspective but I’m sure players have the same feelings about their future.
Where does my son stand when it comes to being recruited to play college baseball? I guess every parent and player would like to know that answer starting about their freshman year of high school and ending only when the NLI is signed. Every parent envisions their son in a college uniform and they want to make sure they are taking the necessary steps for him to realize his dream. He plays for a great summer team and he has (or will) go to a showcase or two and he’s gotten some invites to some college camps. Is that enough and do I just wait for this to happen? Does crossing my fingers help? I think I’m proactive but do I need to be MORE proactive. What the h*** is proactive anyway? This recruiting ride is driving me crazy! pull_hair

There is no great revelation that says everything is on target unless his name comes out in Baseball America as one of the “best in the nation”. You just have to take a breath and analyze the small indicators as they develop. What are these indicators? I think the first indicators are the phone calls from the coaches of the better summer teams. They located and want your son. Surely you don’t think they picked his name out of a phone book. Then the showcase invites trickle in. Now how did they get my son’s name and address? He may get an invite to a college camp. I know these aren’t invitations to play college baseball, but the “process” is much the same as a college coach locating your son. Your son is getting his name in the loop. Exposure is a constant action that is continually sending messages to baseball people everywhere. Need more information as to how things are going? Then I suggest you ask “baseball people” that know your son and will be totally honest as to where he stands or what level they see him playing. I admit this whole process can be a gut wrenching experience and the only comfort is knowing that 99% of all parents and players have the same feelings (or doubts).
Enjoy the ride....Maybe you should look at it as the "Super Dooper Looper" at the fairgrounds that frightens everyone as they strap themselves into the seat but after it’s all over, most lie and say it wasn’t really that bad. Smile
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Another great post but may I add this---the process can be even more daunting for the player(s), the majority of HS players, who are not listed in the BA or PG top player list--for these players baseball can be the difference for them getting into a college of their choice---for these players the road is tougher because they do not have 100 programs and pro scouts chasing them-- for these players it is a necessity for they and their parents to know the process as well as they can--- for these players it is a MUST to get as much exposure in as many of the right venues as possible -- for these players it a MUST for them to go that one extra step to make sure they are seen

For these players it means knowing your ability level and knowing where you want to attend college. There is no need to run all over the face of the USA if you want to be seen in a certain region where you would like to attend college.You want to make sure the colleges in that region of choice get to see you more than once BUT there is a need to play at a high level so as to show that you can compete at a level higher than where your HS might play. In most cases due to the fact you live in a certain school district the talent level in your league/conference is not within your realm of choice--it is what it is by school mandate---but that does not mean you cannot step outside that realm on a travel team and prove that you belong
From our perspective, the showcases and camps helped my son and I figure out "where he needed to be looking," as we were able to compare his ability to that of others. I think TR told me in a chat one time, that basically, "you are what your are." The interest (or lack of interest) will be the hint. For us, the interest was from D-III, and that's what we focused on, and we did not waste our time on seeking which, for JT, Jr, was unrealistic programs.
Great post guys!
While in the chat room the other day, someone asked me about son's recruiting experience.
I can go along with Fungo regarding being on the BA list. He received many letters just because he was on that list, for no other reason, most of the letters were from schools who had never seen him play.
And in the end, despite being a highly ranked player, the invites and offers only came from those who had actually SEEN him play, not because of any rankings they read about. He concentrated on being seen by the schools from the geographical area he wanted to attend and conferences. Yes, living in Flordia had it's advantages, but no one would have offered anything if we kept him limited to his HS playing.
As far as getting on elite summer teams, I know that this is a goal for many players. However, do know that playing on one of them may not be to a player's advantage. An example, USA baseball tournament. My son played for a local travel team, passing up invites to lots of teams familiar to you all. Our coach made it his business to make sure the scouts saw each and every one of his players, while some of his players went to play on the better well known teams thinking they would get more exposure, not true. This also was true for PG woodbat his junior year. Our goal was to get him seen, not necessarily be on the "winning" team, and that worked out well for him. Instead of jocking for position amoung the best pitchers in the state or country, he felt his best advantage was being the BEST pitcher on a not so well known team. That was our philosophy for the first three years in HS. Senior summer he joined a summer team that was a top travel team in Florida, but more importantly a coach who made it his business to get college coaches to come to smaller tournaments or tournaments on college campuses. For us, his relationship with many, many college coaches was more important than winning. Things have changed since then, with bigger tournaments and showcases, more scouts watching every game therefore creating more letters going out than ever before. But in the end, again, no one will offer your son a scholarahip if they have not seen him play. There are so many options to use for the recruiting process, it's confusing, and not one particular path is the best for each player. I am not saying what we did was the best route, but it worked for him.

If you are a player that is from an area of the country and you need exposure, don't despair if there are not many travel teams in your area. There are many options for attending camps to the college you wish to attend, showcases, but be realistic in where your best options may be. I don't beleive that you have to be on the BEST team in an area to get a scholarhsip or drafted one day.

For some college recruiters it is just like scouting for the draft. They will seek out the best they can find, all over the country to put the best program together that they can. For others it's pretty obvious, they recruit the local talent, no matter where they are located.

By the end of sophomore, beginning of junior year, it's important to sit down with your son to try to sort out what he is looking for in the college experience. Since we are all baseball parents pretty much in tune to our kids, that may be easy. But for those new parents who may be reading this, MOST HS players are just looking to get to college to play the game, most are NOT looking to be future MLB players. If you are in question as to where his talent lies, so you know which direction to take, have your son evaluated by a professional, someone who will give you a very realistice professional opinion after seeing your son play.
Even for those parents whose son's have been offered really nice scholarships to big schools now facing the draft. This can be more frustrating than the recruiting process, because your son's talents have been recognized by getting an offer to every school on the top 25. If you are getting home visits from scouts, you need to really find out what it is about your son that sets him apart from the others, because just know that scout has been to every other players house that also has talent and most of what your son has as well. I remember the Phillies scout telling us something that stuck in my mind, he sees TONS of pitchers from our area AND south america. In the end there has to be ONE thing that the player has that others don't. This can range from lots of things, signability to his make up, velocity, to movement on the fastball to changing speeds on the change up, GPA, to innings pitched over HS career (many pitchers here in 2004 had all of those things). When looking back at the draft, I understand why some got drafted and others did not, same way as it was apparent why the top HS pitcher in teh country was chosen over everyone else.

It's all so confusing, but if you approach every process honestly, it'll work out in the end.
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As we are still going through this process with our oldest son (first of 3 ball players) it has been an interesting journey.

I think one of the most important things is to get an unbaised opinion of where your son can play in college, be it D1, D2, D3, NAIA, etc. Once that is accomplished then if he chooses to pursue baseball after high school you won't waste time chasing unrealistic opportunities.

In our particular case our son has gotten a lot of interest from D3 schools and a handful of interest from D1's (we have almost no D2's in our area of the country). After a few visits he quickly determined that he does not want to attend a small D3 school so that eliminated a lot of schools from the process. In fact the D1 school that he is most interested in due to it's size and academics is the same D1 school that has shown the most interest in him.

He went on an unofficial overnight visit last fall and spent a lot of time with the players and coaches and really liked the school. At the end of the visit the coach invited him back down for a weekend which we are doing in February. No other school has felt as comfortable to him and he knows that if baseball doesn't work out he feels he will be very happy at this particular school.

We find out soon whether he will be admitted to the school and hopefully this spring things will work out for him regarding baseball. He has the opportunity to be a late signee or simply a preferred walk-on. Because his life doesn't revolve completely around baseball he says that he will be happy just to get admitted and attend school there but I know in his heart he would really like to be a part of their team.

Anyway, it has been a great education for me and this website has provided me with so much insight and advice. At least I know I'll be ready for the next 2 if they decide to pursue baseball!
About the only thing I can say with certainty about the process is that the HSBBWEB is an invaluable source of information.

As Fungo pointed out - the process is like a ride on the "Super Dooper Looper". LOL

As a family - we did all the research - sought advice from many respected and experienced people (like TR) - and thought that our son had chosen the absolute perfect "fit" for him.

It turned out to be a disaster - LOL
He was displeased with just about every single aspect of the program.

What I learned from the whole process is very similar to playing sports - you prepare the best you can - and you let it rip.

If it doesnt work out - and you still have the desire - you just pick yourself up and do it again.

Fortunately - my son did that and now is about as happy as he possibly could be. Probably more excited about the game than ever before.

The advice given by many here is as valuable - if not more valuable - IMO - than any other source of information you will find anywhere.

I have a younger son as well - and I can say with all honesty that I am continuing to learn about the process as a result of this site - despite having gone through it twice already. LOL

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Another valuable thread....

In just a few posts we have solid true life stories and advice from...

The "BA" player...
The non BA player...
The travel team player..
The non travel team player..
The rural player...
The player who made all the right moves did all the right reaseach and ended up with the wrong fit...

All posts of exceptional quality, valuable information and excellent insight...

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The recruiting process has another added advantage: it gets your son THINKING about college. My son's two best friends are non-baseball players..not even athletes. Neither of them is remotely interested in the college selection process. Their parents have confided in me their worry about what will happen. If it wasn't for baseball, I doubt my son would have had as much focus at this point. But because he's attracted some interest from colleges and because he is actively seeking interest from colleges, it making him think more concretely about his future. He is focused and that makes him less likely to "fall off track" as I suspect many kids at this age tend to do without a goal. This website has reaffirmed what I've known all along: if you stay actively involved in your children's lives, there will be a good reward. We've had the pleasure of watching a fine boy beginning to grow into a fine young man and athlete. His devotion, ambition, drive and sheer will to make this happen for himself inspires awe in me.
We found the process an absolute high. I enjoyed every minute and was almost in post partum depression when it was over.
I was told what my son wantef and where he wanted to go as far as schools and the areas. We set up folders with all the schools from Florida,Gepgia SC etc and started emailing ,calling and sending the video.
The key to not worying is like investing. You stay the course and don't be in a hurry. Don't get the offer you want you work and go next year. We were planning showcases, tryouts in Florida that wanted to see him. What is a year or 2 in the life of a young ball player. How could you not enjoy talking baseball to all those great coaches.
The only guys from hear that get listed on BA are the guys who play on big price Elite teams and go to showcases. We don't have scouts and colleges watching our HS games.
If we relied on our Elite team we were pnly going to get responses from the usual teams they dealt with. I noticed a long time ago that certain Elite teams put all their players on a few teams that they had a relation ship with. Some of these Elite teams cost 8000-9000 a year and the schools were usually not in hot climates or where my son wanted to be. We had to go for it ourselves and I am sure the coaches were not real happy that we turned down offers that they felt they procurred. We let them take the credit for my son signing and said it was due to their exposure to try to keep the peace. In our area the teams use the signings to promote their teams and I felt they had contributed just not in the search effort. It has always been my belief that if you leave your destiny to someone else you are tossing the dice.
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Originally posted by Fungo:

There is no great revelation that says everything is on target unless his name comes out in Baseball America as one of the “best in the nation”. Smile
Fungo


So, I need to learn something Fungo. Whats the big deal with Baseball America?

Why are they(BA) the definitive authorities?

Where does BaseballAmerica get their information??????$$$$
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