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Game Ball
By Jacob Luft
You hear it all the time: Baseball is about fathers and sons. No Game of the Week broadcast is complete without a couple of little boys eating ice cream in the stands, a doting father no doubt nearby. Rarely does a Hall of Fame induction speech end without thanking dad for throwing all that BP and coaching all those Little League teams.

Hollywood buys into this line of thinking, too. Field of Dreams wasn't so much a baseball movie as it was about repairing a relationship between a father and son. (The filmmakers didn't even bother to make Shoeless Joe a left-handed hitter, so unconcerned they were about the facts.) Remember the closing scene of The Natural? It was Roy Hobbs playing catch with his son. Hobbs' career, dilatory as it was in any case, was ruined by that old bullet wound and he didn't even get to play in the Series, but everything is OK because now he's playing catch with his kid, a strapping young man who doesn't mind the fact that he had a deadbeat dad all these years.

Meanwhile, as a father of one little girl and with another bambina on the way, I'm left to wonder: What about fathers and daughters? Has fate conspired to keep me from forging the same bond with my daughters that dads everywhere enjoy when they play catch with their sons, picturing the day he will be suiting up in Yankee pinstripes or Red Sox stirrups? Are we not entitled to our own little slice of baseball Americana?

For myself and fathers like me, "Double-X" isn't just a nickname for Jimmie Foxx. It's a chromosomal pairing that means we won't be tying our offsprings' right hands behind their backs to force them to throw lefty, which for boys would ensure them of unending riches as they follow the path laid down by Jesse Orosco, the patron saint of LOOGYs. Diamonds of the lustrous variety are a girl's best friend, but baseball diamonds are for men only, even though only a precious few will ever don a major league uniform.

So does this mean I should give up on transferring my baseball passion to my children? Should I stand idly by as their bedrooms fill up with Barbies and other such dress-up dolls?

To Hell with that.

I'm raising my girls as what they are -- the sons I never had. Some kids watch cartoons on Saturday mornings. Hannah, my 3-year-old, settles for Baseball Tonight reruns. She knows how to spot a home run, though I'm guessing it will take some time for her to appreciate the beauty of the RBI groundout -- let's hear it for the National League, baby! If she learns how to read before her classmates, it may have a lot to do with her endless hours of exposure to the ESPNews ticker. Her bedtime is 9 p.m., but there is a standing rule that she can stay up late as long as the time is spent watching baseball, or "game ball," as she calls it, with her daddy. When I come back from the road, I bring back a plush mascot of the home team of whatever stadium I was just visiting, and I never leave Cooperstown without finding a suitable piece of Rockford Peaches paraphernalia.

Ballet classes are in order, yes, but so is T-ball and Little League. With any luck, she'll be the biggest tomboy this side of Tatum O'Neal (aka Amanda Whurlizer from Bad News Bears). She'll take the mound with her hair pulled up in a hat, hiding behind youthful androgyny to save the boys from the embarrassment of getting struck out by a girl.

So far I think my strategy is working. Invariably I come home late from a ballgame and miss her bedtime, and when I do she grills me the next day about going to the game ball without her. (On a related note, she also got upset with her parents when, upon seeing our wedding album for the first time, she realized that she had not been invited to the ceremony, which took place four years before she was born.)

Earlier this summer I decided it was time to take her to her first big league game, and we booked a weekend trip to Philly for the occasion. But as soon as we got to Citizens Bank Park for a Braves-Phillies tilt, a wicked thunderstorm pounded us for the better part of three hours. The rain dampened her clothes but not her enthusiasm for her first ballgame. She had the same wondrous stare that we all did upon first setting eyes on a big league field. Though the players were all safely ensconced in the clubhouse doubtlessly playing cards or dominoes, Hannah wouldn't take her eyes off what must have seemed to her as unending acres of perfectly green -- albeit soaked and partially tarped -- grass. (We don't get much of the green stuff living in Hoboken, N.J., across the river from New York City, after all.)

We waited out the delay until the game was called. As we filed out of the stadium along with the remaining crowd, Hannah's disappointment was palpable. Among the three of us, she took the rainout the hardest. I wouldn't be surprised if she took it harder than most anybody in the stadium that day. For the first time I harbored hope that she really is interested in game ball beyond an excuse to stay up late or veg out on the couch with me. Maybe she sees it as an easy way to connect with her seamhead of a father, who would love nothing more than to make baseball a lifetime connection with the first of his beloved daughters.

Jacob Luft is a baseball editor/writer for SI.com.
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TPM--

You brought me out of my cave with that one! I am the firstborn of a baseball fanatic. (The son came as #4 of 5---too late!!) I do NOT remember Barbies or Betsy Wetsies (OK, ya got me!), but still carry my mitt around in my car just in case a game breaks out. A girl has to be prepared! The only real connection I ever made with my Dad (he died in 2001) is related to baseball. That thread, sewn into the deepest recesses of my childhood, weaves on throughout the fabric of my life today. Long story. Thanks for the memory!! clapping

By the way, have you read Doris Kearns Goodwin's Wait Till Next Year? Dads and daughters and baseball and life---exquisitely written. Only one more thing to say:
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PAmom,
I remember sitting at night watching the Yankees with my dad before bedtime. It was our special time together. Two brothers not interested.
It also reminded me of hubbie and first born, a girl, how he took her to the minor league games on saturday nights while I worked, Barbies in tow! Things changed after her baby brother came along and she got older. She tells us, these are some of her fondest memories with her and her dad! Smile
That's nice.

I remember coaching LL all-stars and always having a group of girls hanging around. Because of the distraction by the dugout I told them they could be a big part of the team by helping with the book. So it began. Some of the faces changed but in the next 4 years a group of them learned the game and my book, regardless if an i was dotted with a heart, or the O's had smiley faces was the most legible and accurate around. They understood baseball situations and stratagy. When all was said and done what they could hang with the guys and talk/listen at their level and really be accepted as part of the team. None of these girls were "jockettes" and many of those platonic friendships that developed on the diamond still exist today.
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As I've posted several times, I have a daughter. She is the highlight of my life. I constantly have to fight the urge to "that Dad." She has been raised up around baseball. She is a die-hard Cardinals fan and has been on both the old and new Busch Stadium fields with the players. Rarely does she miss a game. We are going this Saturday together to watch our Redbirds in the pennant race. She plays softball. On her wall is a collage that she has created entitled, "The Dream." It is made up of photos, cutouts, mementoes of players such as Lisa Fernandez, Jenny Finch, Laura Berg, ... She spends a lot of time working on her game and at times, she drives herself to tears. Just_Learning can attest to a breakdown she has last week. I haven't seen her attire since my teaching assignment now has me start my first class at 6:45 in the morning. However, I'd take a bet she is wearing a softball T-Shirt. states, (Front) "Baseball Players are great. (BAck)Someone needs to carry the water for the Softball Team."
Nice story! Let me just put it this way; my oldest daughter is ALWAYS watching SportsCenter or a game and probably knows more about baseball and the Yankees (yes, she's a NY fan too, sorry Big Grin )than any of her guy-friends. She called home last night while walking back from a late class to find out what the Yankee score was. I'm sure the main reason was to kill the time and catch up with mom. But they weren't talking about girlie stuff, they were talking about Yankee Baseball.
Since this thread is about daughters, my daughter as well as Just_Learning's daughter will play our rival's team today. We're not doing so well in school ball (averaging 7 unearned runs/game)and they are tremendous and so... My girl is pitching. My Mom and Dad are going to try to come today to support her. They live in Kentucky and my Mom isn't suppose to leave her house since she is "bed-ridden" and on oxygen. This might be the last time they get a chance to watch her. Last week after 11 unearned runs my girl had a "breakdown" after the game and it was real bad. She had 13 k's in that game and still couldn't get a win. Please, if you're thinking about it, keep her in your thoughts today. I don't care about a win. I just want her to have fun and not fall apart again. Thanks!
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keep her in your thoughts today. I don't care about a win. I just want her to have fun and not fall apart again. Thanks!

Done CoachB.

She's a pitcher and has the ball in her hand at the beginning of every play. I think that it was a compliment to her make-up that she stayed composed until after the circus ended.
CoachB25,

I'll also be thinking of your daughter and sending good thoughts her way for a composed and FUN day. I know she is a very hard worker and probably a perfectionist like my younger son. Sometimes it is hard for them to live with defeat. That can be rough, but it is also a trait shared by some pretty successful and famous people. Anyway, best wishes to her today, and let us know how it goes.

Julie
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Thanks everyone. Beezer, our high school season here is in the spring as well. We have Middle School Ball here. My Girl, BB, is in 8th grade now as is Just_Learning's daughter. Their summer team went 42-10 and won several tournaments. Five girls on the team played on that select team. School Ball is very definately different and we have many players that play "rec ball" where they didn't steal, bunt, each inning ended when a team scored 5 runs... Now, they are thrown into games where they just aren't prepared for the games as are the other teams comprised of girls from several select teams. As a Dad, it is very hard seeing my girl, or any of the other girls for that matter, endure those long innings or unearned runs. Oh well, it's only a game.
I agree that we must not forget the daughters. My daughter is 17, four years younger than her brother. From age two months on up she drove around all summer recruiting with me. She also went to most of her brother's games.....she is a senior and is a softball player who is not a great player, but helps her team win in many ways....she can throw and play defense with anyone, is getting to be fast, can take one for the team just when they need it most, and is like a coach on the field......and at 17 this summer she coached little league and was chosen to coach the LL district team......and she is a high achiever off the field, all 105 pounds of her.....she is the most mature person in the family!!
A quick update, we lost 4-3 in the top of the 7th. Again, the unearned runs killed us. We dropped a popup and then kicked that ball out of play which advanced runners into scoring position. Both scored. BB was very good and had several K's. Just_Learning's Daughter had a big double for us to start a rally. BB came up and hit a triple after that and then, eventually scored. Just_Learning's Daughter was hurt in the game on a collision at 1st base and was eventually removed from the game. Had she been at 1st, I believe we would have caught that popup that was dropped. Some tears after the game and yes, she will be stronger for it all. She works very hard to be good. NOTE - when I left home to come back to school, the pitcher for the other team called to compliment BB on the game she pitched. VERY CLASSY ACT!
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Just found this thread! My daughter is four years younger than our 07. She's played baseball since age 6. Tried softball last year because she was told by baseball coach that she'd never be able to play in high school because of league rules. Hated softball. Will be pitching for a women's baseball league October 1 against an Australian team. She also plays basketball but her heart is in baseball. Has followed her brother on multiple college camp/showcase trips. Her goal: first women to play baseball for the majors!
Nothing sweeter than seeing my 12 year old
daughter's expression on her face during the end of a Jr. High volleyball tournament when her brother, late, filthy, sweaty, and tired,
( from baseball practice ), slips into the gym to root his baby sister on.

She credits her hard work ethic and athletic style to her older brothers. She's eager, gutzy, and diligent. Growing up I was never like that!! Then again,..I only had sisters.

Perhaps during the early years, when I thought she was simply nickle and diming me to death by running back and forth to the concession stands completely oblivious as to what game or meet was being played by her brothers ...... she was actually getting alot more out of it!

Thank goodness.
The mommie guilt for the younger sibling has been relieved!

I love it now when parents ask openly what inning is it???,..or whats the count????,..and she answers!

Tee -hee,..oh too sweet!!!
Thats MY girl!!!
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