enough advice...thanks...

RJM posted:

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Please! Do not turn this into a hitting thread.

It's just a conversation about "baseball." So get over it.  These things tend to evolve. 

Hitting exchanges take a different turn than most conversations. They often get ugly with people standing in their own corners based on the guru they worship. More often than not when a thread turns from wherever it was to hitting it gets ugly and goes down the tubes.

I don't disagree at all. Certainly not my intent to go hitting direction. The comment I replied to referenced hitting & my point was to show that likely there was a coaching philosophy in play when the other coach made the "funny comment," that can definitely be effective at times. Could relate to any part of the game. Thx.

With respect to original posters ? I honestly have no idea & certainly appreciate & am trying to soak up much of the advice given here with those who have experience dealing with a scenario like that.

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Please! Do not turn this into a hitting thread.

It's just a conversation about "baseball." So get over it.  These things tend to evolve. 

Hitting exchanges take a different turn than most conversations. They often get ugly with people standing in their own corners based on the guru they worship. More often than not when a thread turns from wherever it was to hitting it gets ugly and goes down the tubes.

I don't disagree at all. Certainly not my intent to go hitting direction. The comment I replied to referenced hitting & my point was to show that likely there was a coaching philosophy in play when the other coach made the "funny comment," that can definitely be effective at times. Could relate to any part of the game. Thx.

With respect to original posters ? I honestly have no idea & certainly appreciate & am trying to soak up much of the advice given here with those who have experience dealing with a scenario like that.

Long distance running anyone?

2017LHPscrewball posted:

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Please! Do not turn this into a hitting thread.

It's just a conversation about "baseball." So get over it.  These things tend to evolve. 

Hitting exchanges take a different turn than most conversations. They often get ugly with people standing in their own corners based on the guru they worship. More often than not when a thread turns from wherever it was to hitting it gets ugly and goes down the tubes.

I don't disagree at all. Certainly not my intent to go hitting direction. The comment I replied to referenced hitting & my point was to show that likely there was a coaching philosophy in play when the other coach made the "funny comment," that can definitely be effective at times. Could relate to any part of the game. Thx.

With respect to original posters ? I honestly have no idea & certainly appreciate & am trying to soak up much of the advice given here with those who have experience dealing with a scenario like that.

Long distance running anyone?

Can't we talk about ice again?

CaCO3Girl posted:

2017LHPscrewball posted:

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Steve A. posted:

RJM posted:

Please! Do not turn this into a hitting thread.

It's just a conversation about "baseball." So get over it.  These things tend to evolve. 

Hitting exchanges take a different turn than most conversations. They often get ugly with people standing in their own corners based on the guru they worship. More often than not when a thread turns from wherever it was to hitting it gets ugly and goes down the tubes.

I don't disagree at all. Certainly not my intent to go hitting direction. The comment I replied to referenced hitting & my point was to show that likely there was a coaching philosophy in play when the other coach made the "funny comment," that can definitely be effective at times. Could relate to any part of the game. Thx.

With respect to original posters ? I honestly have no idea & certainly appreciate & am trying to soak up much of the advice given here with those who have experience dealing with a scenario like that.

Long distance running anyone?

Can't we talk about ice again?

"To ice or not to ice, that is the question." Shakespeare

"I'll whoop your ice!" - Stone Cold Steve Austin.

I can't hardly wait until we hear the whole story.

So when is the meeting?

Yes, please bring us up to speed.

My God, what a whiny article.

ironhorse posted:

My God, what a whiny article.

My thoughts, but worded more suitably for public view.

Mchlwlsh posted:

well that didnt go well...we had that meeting. I was going to write this elaborate post like my initial post, but...nah

this article came out from this site we follow...talk about serendipitous!

http://travelballmoms.com/2016...s-passing-up-my-kid/ 

I'm not surprised. I bit my tongue through this entire thread...if you weren't going to listen, another voice probably wouldn't have convinced you.

Mchlwlsh posted:

well that didnt go well...we had that meeting. I was going to write this elaborate post like my initial post, but...nah

this article came out from this site we follow...talk about serendipitous!

http://travelballmoms.com/2016...s-passing-up-my-kid/ 

What about the meeting didn't go well?  Heck, what was the meeting even about, I'm still unclear on that.

As for that article...um....yeah....um.....while I do agree that if you take time to show up to a tryout a coach should look at you....I would also agree that if everyone is a foot taller than you and outweighs you by 50 pounds, and the coach is looking to form a Major team, then the coach probably won't look long.  That IS youth baseball, and it is why there are Major, AAA, AA, and A level teams.  If you don't fit the mold of one team the coach will pass on you, that's just life.

Ugh.

This entire topic is whiney.

CaCO3Girl posted:

Mchlwlsh posted:

well that didnt go well...we had that meeting. I was going to write this elaborate post like my initial post, but...nah

this article came out from this site we follow...talk about serendipitous!

http://travelballmoms.com/2016...s-passing-up-my-kid/ 

What about the meeting didn't go well?  Heck, what was the meeting even about, I'm still unclear on that.

As for that article...um....yeah....um.....while I do agree that if you take time to show up to a tryout a coach should look at you....I would also agree that if everyone is a foot taller than you and outweighs you by 50 pounds, and the coach is looking to form a Major team, then the coach probably won't look long.  That IS youth baseball, and it is why there are Major, AAA, AA, and A level teams.  If you don't fit the mold of one team the coach will pass on you, that's just life.

I just read the travel moms article. It's a typical whiny, parent doesn't get it story. So what if your kid didn't make the team last year and got two hits off them this year. Maybe he wasn't good enough last year. The whiny parent didn't seem to mention whether his kid's team won or lost.

It's not hard to tell when a parent didn't go far in the game. Payback is nice. But it's not motivation. A "player" is motivated by the desire to succeed every game regardless of the competition. 

Do I understand what it is to have the smaller kid? My son was 5'2, 100 and 12u eligible in 13u and 5'4", 120 in 14u. It didn't stop him from hitting line drives. He didn't out practice everyone because he was smaller. He did it because he wanted to be the best player. Then he grew and out worked his own work ethic.

TPM posted:

This entire topic is whiney.

I would like to dedicate a song to this thread. I hadn't thought of this song, nor heard it in years until just now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qjp_iG9vzEU

RJM posted:

TPM posted:

This entire topic is whiney.

I would like to dedicate a song to this thread. I hadn't thought of this song, nor heard it in years until just now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qjp_iG9vzEU

come on man you should know, although a little whining is acceptable.... there is absolutely no crying allowed in baseball.

Got to see Joe once in a bar setting , probably less than 30 people there, wow what a show.

Did I miss a post somewhere?  I've been waiting in anticipation for what happened and all the OP said was "Well, that didn't go well...  we had the meeting"?  Maybe there's a deleted post somewhere?

Looks like OP went back and deleted all his previous posts. Can someone fill those of us who missed it in on what happened?

bballman posted:

Looks like OP went back and deleted all his previous posts. Can someone fill those of us who missed it in on what happened?

What we were told: Kid makes varsity as a pitcher last year in 8th grade, this year, kid gets sent home from practice and parent gets email complaining about kids' attitude.

Parent decides that the coach is wrong (and implied abuse), and meets with him (despite many people here saying that was the wrong approach.) Meeting didn't go well.

My assessment: Parent doesn't listen well, which means that kid doesn't listen well. It was a whole bunch of "everyone else is wrong" (posters here, the coaching staff, etc.) and I'm willing to bet the coaches were absolutely right, if the kid is anything like the parent. I would note that the parent really didn't go into much substance about what was said about the player, and only those responses that gave the benefit of the doubt regarding the implied abuse accusation were treated with any credence.

If I'm misremembering, please correct me.