It boggles my mind how some people can be so arrogant. I feel sorry for this guy's son but who would want to be around this situation in the future?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...AR2006110301819.html
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Every time I think I have seen/heard it all.....
Seen it all?
Have you ever seen a summer team coach fire a home plate umpire in the middle of a game he was coaching, in a 16-team tourney he owned and managed? I have....
Have you ever seen a summer team coach fire a home plate umpire in the middle of a game he was coaching, in a 16-team tourney he owned and managed? I have....
People do what they can get a way with. What coach would allow some jerk tell him what when and where a kid plays. Give me a break. Now remember this same kid is going to a high school somewere. What coach in his right mind would put up with this guy. I basically would tell him go *&^%^&*(.
The most disturbing part of this article for me was the fact that the child's grandmother died and he stayed behind to play a U12 football game. There is a bigger picture and this guy couldn't see it if it fell on his head.
quote:Originally posted by deldad:
The most disturbing part of this article for me was the fact that the child's grandmother died and he stayed behind to play a U12 football game. There is a bigger picture and this guy couldn't see it if it fell on his head.
Excellant point, what a joke
What an absolute, total freaking moron this guy is! This has to be the worst example I've ever seen of an out of control parent. What does this guy think (he probably isn't capable of rational thought) he just did to his son's chances of ever playing on the high school team, or any other youth league. I can't imagine anyone who would want to put up with him. Hopeufully, the kid gets to play at a school that has a coach that will tell Dad to shove it if he doesn't like it, and an AD and Principal who will back him up. Imagine how this poor kid is being regarded at school every day, because he has a dipstick for a dad.
This league should consider requiring everyone involved with the league to attend something like this in the future www.charactercombine.com Heck, every league should consider ChaacterCombine for their coaches.
Can you imagine if one of the other parents is a litigator? Boy, the right kind of attorney could have some fun with this idiot.
This league should consider requiring everyone involved with the league to attend something like this in the future www.charactercombine.com Heck, every league should consider ChaacterCombine for their coaches.
Can you imagine if one of the other parents is a litigator? Boy, the right kind of attorney could have some fun with this idiot.
quote:Hopeufully, the kid gets to play at a school that has a coach that will tell Dad to shove it if he doesn't like it, and an AD and Principal who will back him up.
You hit the nail on the head with the above statement especially about the administrators backing him up. Many times people take the path of least resistance.
Will:
That's pretty harsh, but I'd go a bit further and tell him to go...$#X...@&*+...%#$^... @!#)^...+(*&^%...and print it!
Lee Elia...former Cub's skipper
Thanks Lee...we'll send it to the printer!
quote:Originally posted by Will:
I basically would tell him go *&^%^&*(.
That's pretty harsh, but I'd go a bit further and tell him to go...$#X...@&*+...%#$^... @!#)^...+(*&^%...and print it!
Lee Elia...former Cub's skipper Thanks Lee...we'll send it to the printer!
I gotta say, I have seen worse than this, a lot worse. I find it hard to believe the coaches didn't understand the owners rule about his kid always playing defense. In fact, that seems to be the only rule the owner had for the coaches. I believe they were having a harder and harder time playing the owners son on D when they knew he didn't belong there. They were in an ethical dilemma.
I have had the experience of coaching an AAU team as a paid manager. The owner had his kid on the team but I ran the practices and the games. I had no connection with anyone on the team. I learned one thing. Money and youth teams don't go together very well. Youth baseball should be coached and run by parents.
It was very difficult to manage the team my way while keeping his kid at the position he wanted him at. This guy was having his son play with older kids but he was in over his head. I couldn't use certain defensive plays because the kid couldn't handle the job.
We qualified for the playoffs after coming in next to last the year before and the owner kept telling me I was getting paid to get the hardware. I asked him if he wanted the hardware bad enough to move his son from the infield to the outfield and he actually said yes.
We ended up coming in third place out of eight teams so he got his hardware. But there was another problem that came up in the semifinal game. We were losing 3-1 in the next to last inning and the owner was insisting that I stick with the starters for the rest of the game. I told him that this is an AAU team, if a kid doesn't play he will go elsewhere and he needs to get his subs in the game. I told him to look at the bigger picture and that winning must come within the framework of everybody playing. This was the first of what seemed like many philosophical differences we had on what is considered ethical in youth baseball. I had fifteen years experience and he had fifteen weeks. He just didn't know right from wrong from a youth league perspective.
I ended up getting fired for refusing to do certain things, which was fine with me. I'm sure these football coaches who got fired are not questioning their character either. They just couldn't take the situation any longer.
But I don't believe the coaches were being honest when they said they didn't understand what the owner wanted. They should have manned up and said they couldn't be party to the charade any longer.
Bottom line, the owner calls the shots and everyone else has to decide if they want to be a part of it.
I have had the experience of coaching an AAU team as a paid manager. The owner had his kid on the team but I ran the practices and the games. I had no connection with anyone on the team. I learned one thing. Money and youth teams don't go together very well. Youth baseball should be coached and run by parents.
It was very difficult to manage the team my way while keeping his kid at the position he wanted him at. This guy was having his son play with older kids but he was in over his head. I couldn't use certain defensive plays because the kid couldn't handle the job.
We qualified for the playoffs after coming in next to last the year before and the owner kept telling me I was getting paid to get the hardware. I asked him if he wanted the hardware bad enough to move his son from the infield to the outfield and he actually said yes.
We ended up coming in third place out of eight teams so he got his hardware. But there was another problem that came up in the semifinal game. We were losing 3-1 in the next to last inning and the owner was insisting that I stick with the starters for the rest of the game. I told him that this is an AAU team, if a kid doesn't play he will go elsewhere and he needs to get his subs in the game. I told him to look at the bigger picture and that winning must come within the framework of everybody playing. This was the first of what seemed like many philosophical differences we had on what is considered ethical in youth baseball. I had fifteen years experience and he had fifteen weeks. He just didn't know right from wrong from a youth league perspective.
I ended up getting fired for refusing to do certain things, which was fine with me. I'm sure these football coaches who got fired are not questioning their character either. They just couldn't take the situation any longer.
But I don't believe the coaches were being honest when they said they didn't understand what the owner wanted. They should have manned up and said they couldn't be party to the charade any longer.
Bottom line, the owner calls the shots and everyone else has to decide if they want to be a part of it.
I really feel bad for the son.
He is being taught so many poor things by his father (not to mention a game was more inportant than his grand mother's funeral)
I would also fear the physical well being of the son. I don't know about now in this day of zero tolerence, but in my day, the boy would be the subject of almost daily beatings from his team mates.
I am surprised we haven't seen the Fairfax County Youth Football League mor einvolved.
He is being taught so many poor things by his father (not to mention a game was more inportant than his grand mother's funeral)
I would also fear the physical well being of the son. I don't know about now in this day of zero tolerence, but in my day, the boy would be the subject of almost daily beatings from his team mates.
I am surprised we haven't seen the Fairfax County Youth Football League mor einvolved.
This is absolutely horrible. What kind of lessons is that dad teaching his son, that he should be entitled to a certain position and not have to earn it?!?!? That he is more important than anyone else on the team?!?! At least the child sounded like he had things in perspective, saying that he wouldn't have wanted his dad to interfere because it wouldn't have been fair. Sounds like daddy could learn a lot from his son.
Scott is the son of the fool/jerk.
Michael is the teammate who said he would not want his dad to do that.
Scott's dad needs to have his "behind" thoroughly kicked by some dads - and then he should refund money and publicly apologize to the coach. Of course he should step down from being commissioner, but shame is a foreign word to people like him. In his mind (what little there may be), he did nothing wrong.
Michael is the teammate who said he would not want his dad to do that.
Scott's dad needs to have his "behind" thoroughly kicked by some dads - and then he should refund money and publicly apologize to the coach. Of course he should step down from being commissioner, but shame is a foreign word to people like him. In his mind (what little there may be), he did nothing wrong.
quote:Originally posted by Redhead:
Scott is the son of the fool/jerk.
Michael is the teammate who said he would not want his dad to do that.
Opps...thanks for clearing that up Redhead. Looks like I misread the article
"He also said his fellow players feel bad for Hinkle's son because he is well liked and worked hard. Michael added that he is sure the boy didn't know that his father had dictated what position he would play."
Hinkle's son has a preposterous pinhead for a dad, but it sounds like the boy has some very level-headed friends.
Hinkle's son has a preposterous pinhead for a dad, but it sounds like the boy has some very level-headed friends.
Cong's tagline "In a child, sports build character. In adults, sports reveal character" could never be more true than in this situation.
the thing that gets me is this guy thinks he's right!!giving him some room, he said it once. maybe out of anger, however misguided. but wouldn't you have enough sense to back off? and the one who will pay forever is the son.
some people shouldn't reproduce for what they do to thier kids.
some people shouldn't reproduce for what they do to thier kids.
Isn't it odd how often the kids are not a problem?
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Isn't it odd how often the kids are not a problem?
I find it odd when the kids ARE the problem.
Ah come on...you all are bein' too rough on this poor dad. Geez, cut him some slack. At least he waited till his son was in Jr. HS.
I got my kid's t-ball coach fired...didn't play him at pitcher like the script said.
I got my kid's t-ball coach fired...didn't play him at pitcher like the script said.
Biggest problem with youth sports is....the adults.
Why don't they play the game anyway?
So he's commissioner of the league or whatever. If everyone else involves tells him to stuff it and hits the field anyway, what's he going to do about it?
I'll bet his wife would drive his son to the game!
Next year, someone else will start another organization and the whole thing will move away from this one guy.
So he's commissioner of the league or whatever. If everyone else involves tells him to stuff it and hits the field anyway, what's he going to do about it?
I'll bet his wife would drive his son to the game!
Next year, someone else will start another organization and the whole thing will move away from this one guy.
Just saw an update on this story (CNN)
The other commissioners of the W VA football league organized a make-up play-off game for the Raptors, who ended up winning that game to take the championship.
The commissioner's son did not play in the game. Poor kid.
The other commissioners of the W VA football league organized a make-up play-off game for the Raptors, who ended up winning that game to take the championship.
The commissioner's son did not play in the game. Poor kid.
Obviously they read my suggestion above and knew sage advice when they saw it!