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@infielddad posted:

Oh ho hum. Just a heart infection. Everyone knows that.  I read back through this thread and didn't see it mentioned in relation to the "flu," "car accidents" etc.  To acknowledge it is an elevated risk for athletes due but then downplay it makes no sense. Very few know this, especially the athletes and their parents or families who will deal with it.

I would be willing to link the coroner's report from the first death where COVID was actually found in the heart muscle and was noted to have stressed the muscle to the point of rupture (along with other organ impact). Not sure anyone wants to read it though because it would show this infection "ain't the flu" and it is tough to read.

Ho Hum. Nope. not a good idea.

You selectively read.  I do acknowledge it is an elevated risk as you point out but I also explain that there is a known correlation between viruses and myocarditis and that docs are trained to look for it and screen for it.   So my point is elevated risk but with known mitigation techniques.  If the Big 10 doesn't want to play football due to their assessment of those risks that is up to them.   My position seems reasonable to me but perhaps not to you but that's what makes a market man.  Just wanted to be clear(er) on my position.

Right now they are not travelling - what is going to happen when they put a whole football team on a plane, to get to a ridiculously far-off conference opponent?  Or, two or three planes, to allow for distancing?  And then buses to and from the airports?  They can see what will happen, and why pay all that money for travel, hotels, etc., only to be shut down after a couple of games anyway? 

They should have scrapped conference play, and only played local. 

The money spent on flights and hotels won't put a dent in the money they make from the tv revenue. Playing 3 games is better than playing 0. 

I think football should be played. But I also agree that they should play locally. Penn St can't travel 100 miles to Pitt, but they can hop on a flight and play Nebraska? 

South Carolina can't play Clemson but they can play Texas A&M? 

This is why people question the validity of the rules put into place. They don't make sense a lot of the time. What sounds good is done, not what makes sense. 

@22and25 posted:

Yep, definitely the adult in the room.  Tell us what else we don't deserve daddy🙄

Serious q - do you not understand the relationship between our failure to get this under control and the cancellation of the CFB season? Do you not understand that our collective failure to follow guidance on masks etc and indulge in conspiracy theories has made the pandemic worse?  

@infielddad posted:

Oh ho hum. Just a heart infection. Everyone knows that.  I read back through this thread and didn't see it mentioned in relation to the "flu," "car accidents" etc.  To acknowledge it is an elevated risk for athletes due but then downplay it makes no sense. Very few know this, especially the athletes and their parents or families who will deal with it.

I would be willing to link the coroner's report from the first death where COVID was actually found in the heart muscle and was noted to have stressed the muscle to the point of rupture (along with other organ impact). Not sure anyone wants to read it though because it would show this infection "ain't the flu" and it is tough to read.

Ho Hum. Nope. not a good idea.

So what you are saying is, that if a kid decides to play his chances of getting covid, and developing a heart condition are greater than if he stays home? Because if he stays home he's not going to hang with friends, go to bars/parties, etc. Because college age kids don't do those things right? Prove to me that their chances of getting sick are greater at school than at home. 

@OskiSD posted:

Serious q - do you not understand the relationship between our failure to get this under control and the cancellation of the CFB season? Do you not understand that our collective failure to follow guidance on masks etc and indulge in conspiracy theories has made the pandemic worse?  

Serious question back at you....out of control says who?  What, specifically, is out of control?  Infection rates, hospitalizations, deaths?  We, myself included, have taken steps to mitigate spread.  It was done to flatten the curve (remember that?), which was the last reasonable goal anyone has set.  We achieved that goal.  Hospitals are well within capacity, death rates are declining despite exponentially more confirmed positive cases.  Treatments are improving, mortality is less than 1% and falling and a fraction of a percent for people under 50 years old.

So tell us sir, in your world, what does under control look like?  

 

And you will have to enlighten me on the conspiracy theories, which ones are you attributing to me exactly ?

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