Is it me or do most posts (I'd say 70-80%) by parents pertain to pitchers? Any insight as to why?
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Hmm, I'll take a stab at it.
Position players have to work every day, while pitchers work about once a week. That leaves a lot more time for posting on message boards.
Plausible?
Position players have to work every day, while pitchers work about once a week. That leaves a lot more time for posting on message boards.
Plausible?
Position player here and I hope you were kidding but the pitchers I know work almost everyday, just different from position player.
quote:Originally posted by Rob Kremer:
Hmm, I'll take a stab at it.
Position players have to work every day, while pitchers work about once a week. That leaves a lot more time for posting on message boards.
Plausible?
What?
It is obvious that when given the "ball" they like to be the center of attention.
4thGen is a SS in College. Now he has to listen to his two roommates who are pitchers talk all the time about what great hitters they were in HS.
He also says that their practices are either running and throwing or just running.
He also says that their practices are either running and throwing or just running.
Funny RK. But I was speaking more about parents who are on this site. Bumpin 90 isn't the only way to get to college 
From my observation; the participants in this forum have numbers consistent with most rosters. 50% position and 50% pitchers.
Oh, there are lots of us out there
Some of our most prominent members here (those who post a lot) have excellent pitching sons. I think that is a coincidence however. I have never felt our site was skewed toward pitching, but lets be frank, pitching will always be the most important part of the game. If you don't have it, you simply cannot win. If you don't believe me, check the Texas Rangers odds of winning the game the next time Cliff Lee pitches
Some of our most prominent members here (those who post a lot) have excellent pitching sons. I think that is a coincidence however. I have never felt our site was skewed toward pitching, but lets be frank, pitching will always be the most important part of the game. If you don't have it, you simply cannot win. If you don't believe me, check the Texas Rangers odds of winning the game the next time Cliff Lee pitches
Here's one.
But there is something about the fact, if you don't score, you can't win the game....
quote:Originally posted by floridafan:
Here's one.
Wrong
Of those I know, I'd say that there just as many position player parents as pitcher parents that post here.
Floridafan, Cleveland Dad, itsinthegame, infielddad, Coach May, nhmonty, jemaz, TRHit, redbird5, Fungo, Ryanrod, Coach Merc, CenPAPete, Rob Kremer, Pop Up Hitter dad, Baseballdad1228, TxMom, and many, many more. I even have a son who was a position player.
Sorry I can't come up with all of the names right now. There are a lot more.
Also, Bob Howdeshell, the man who started this great site was/is a position player parent. Maybe, it's all MnMom's fault... Her son was a pitcher.
One thing I have noticed over the years. Lots of very talented and successful players have parents who participate here. No you don't have to play preofessionally to be an obvious success. Success is not determined by baseball ability or accolades. It is determined by character and what kind of person one is. All good people are a success even though they might not realize it yet.
That is my sermon for the year.
In between any of the bickering that goes on here, there is a lot of experience, knowledge and great people from all over the place.
Floridafan, Cleveland Dad, itsinthegame, infielddad, Coach May, nhmonty, jemaz, TRHit, redbird5, Fungo, Ryanrod, Coach Merc, CenPAPete, Rob Kremer, Pop Up Hitter dad, Baseballdad1228, TxMom, and many, many more. I even have a son who was a position player.
Sorry I can't come up with all of the names right now. There are a lot more.
Also, Bob Howdeshell, the man who started this great site was/is a position player parent. Maybe, it's all MnMom's fault... Her son was a pitcher.
One thing I have noticed over the years. Lots of very talented and successful players have parents who participate here. No you don't have to play preofessionally to be an obvious success. Success is not determined by baseball ability or accolades. It is determined by character and what kind of person one is. All good people are a success even though they might not realize it yet.
That is my sermon for the year.
In between any of the bickering that goes on here, there is a lot of experience, knowledge and great people from all over the place.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Maybe, it's all MnMom's fault... Her son was a pitcher.
I definitely agree with that! Much of the blame begins with her
And who's behind every pitchers success???????
Why of course it's the catcher! Parent of a catcher here. Sometimes it does seem the pitchers get all the glory but some of their success is a great catcher calling a great game. Ingredients for success.
Why of course it's the catcher! Parent of a catcher here. Sometimes it does seem the pitchers get all the glory but some of their success is a great catcher calling a great game. Ingredients for success.
I never gave positions a thought as it relates to posters. My son plays outfield and pitches in high school. He prefers to be an outfielder in college. Even more he prefers to play. He'll play where needed whether in the field or on the mound.
quote:Originally posted by CaBB:
And who's BEHIND every pitchers success???????
A Shortstop!!!
My son is a two way player in HS (SS/P). He would like to pitch in college.
What I have always found interesting about the posters' here is that all of the pitchers are extremely successful with tiny ERAs and WHIPs while the position players all hit .400+...
What I have always found interesting about the posters' here is that all of the pitchers are extremely successful with tiny ERAs and WHIPs while the position players all hit .400+...
3 boys; 3 different positions: mif, of, c
Hey, if the shortstop kicks one it costs a base. If a centerfielder kicks one it may involve circling the bases.quote:Originally posted by biggerpapi:quote:Originally posted by CaBB:
And who's BEHIND every pitchers success???????
A Shortstop!!!
Glad to see everyone chime in. My son OF/MIF!
I never really considered the pitcher vs position player dynamic on this site. But I guess there is a notion that one can get slighted over the other depending on which side of the fence your sitting on.
There is no doubt pitchers always want the ball, and probably never bothered to notice there are people behind them in the field. Position players are always thinking about how hard they work to keep their fielding and hitting skills sharp. If they make an error, they will always hear about it. Position players don't get coddled like pitchers, but they do get the benefit of getting dinged up every game. Again it is an interesting thought...... ;-)
There is no doubt pitchers always want the ball, and probably never bothered to notice there are people behind them in the field. Position players are always thinking about how hard they work to keep their fielding and hitting skills sharp. If they make an error, they will always hear about it. Position players don't get coddled like pitchers, but they do get the benefit of getting dinged up every game. Again it is an interesting thought...... ;-)
Not a Pitcher, but dont know what position he plays anymore.His bat is his path to the lineup card.
Mine is P/OF or OF/P...
(depending on the day)
(depending on the day)
Catcher/Utility... literally played every position on the field as a freshman on HS varsity last season except LF.
oh and pitched too.... sometimes I hate that he can throw strikes!
oh and pitched too.... sometimes I hate that he can throw strikes!
quote:Originally posted by 2013 Dad:
Is it me or do most posts (I'd say 70-80%) by parents pertain to pitchers? Any insight as to why?
Seems to me to be a good mix of parents involved in both hitting and pitching topics. It could be that Pitchers, and their Parents, just like to talk more! just joking lol.....
My position player, College Freshman, has 3b dugout clean-up position nailed and working on expanding his skills!
Mine are both outfielders, mostly centerfield but both pitched also in high school.
I never really noticed a disparity in pitchers vs. position player postings.
My son is a 1B and a 100$. If he hit the ball as well as he tries spend money he would have been drafted last year!
My son is a 1B and a 100$. If he hit the ball as well as he tries spend money he would have been drafted last year!
my son was a HS SS/P who was recruited as a SS. Played SS as a freshman, 3B as a sophmore, 2B/1B as a junior, 1B and Catcher as a Senior....
I think that qualifies him as a position player.....
I think that qualifies him as a position player.....
quote:Originally posted by BOF:
Mine is P/OF or OF/P...
(depending on the day)
Same with my kid...and where he'll play at the next level depends on the school he signs with...
My older boy caught and played SS in high school. Caught and played SS in the Industrial League (pitched one long inning and they are still looking for some of the balls that they hit ).
Primarily catching in college, though he takes infield reps at SS with the second team at his school. He plays "wherever they put me and let me hit."
). Primarily catching in college, though he takes infield reps at SS with the second team at his school. He plays "wherever they put me and let me hit."
quote:Originally posted by fillsfan:
My son is a 1B and a 100$. If he hit the ball as well as he tries spend money he would have been drafted last year!
That was really funny.
I never thought that there were more pitchers parents here than position players, not sure where the OP got that idea from.
Fanofgame got it right, doesn't matter which position you play, you got to hit the ball to stay in the lineup.
quote:Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
...I have never felt our site was skewed toward pitching, but lets be frank, pitching will always be the most important part of the game. If you don't have it, you simply cannot win.
My (pitcher) son once had a (well known) coach who told his pitching staff one day, 'You pitchers aren't real baseball players, geesh!...if I could figure out how to the play the game without you I would!"
On the other hand...in the true tradition of pitchers (and their parents) who think they really can hit...my (pitcher) son his .375 in double-A this past season. Does that qualify me to talk about hitting?
Mine is a Middle Infielder. He's played the hot corner when called upon.
quote:but lets be frank, pitching will always be the most important part of the game.If you don't have it, you simply cannot win.
But if nobody has any pitching, somebody will win.
quote:Originally posted by CaBB:
And who's behind every pitchers success???????
Why of course it's the catcher! Parent of a catcher here. Sometimes it does seem the pitchers get all the glory but some of their success is a great catcher calling a great game. Ingredients for success.
Here here!
Ken and CaBB,
No question in my mind that the success of a team is ONLY as good as the catcher. Good catchers make great pitchers look "greater" and average pitchers look good. Catching is a thankless job. When I coach a game, the opposing catcher is the first player I'm looking at for leadership and baseball skills. Catchers rock!
And this is coming from the father of pitchers......
No question in my mind that the success of a team is ONLY as good as the catcher. Good catchers make great pitchers look "greater" and average pitchers look good. Catching is a thankless job. When I coach a game, the opposing catcher is the first player I'm looking at for leadership and baseball skills. Catchers rock!
And this is coming from the father of pitchers......
Position player here. Son plays SS and can utility any position on the infield.
2013Dad,
You know that is a really good question although I do not think the percentages are that high. It is also a difficult one to answer but I will give it a shot.
In talking about playing baseball in general I think overall the spotlight and the pressure is mostly centered around the bump. That is where the game begins. They set the pace for the game. At the younger ages everyone is in the game if the pitcher is throwing strikes, if he is not they tend to drift off and perform poorly when the opportunities come (Both the players when they get a chance to make a play and the Parents in how they respond to game situations.)
This always leads to a lot of emotions whether it be
Excitement,Frustration,Pride,Worry or whatever even sometimes all of those combined. This tends to lead to a lot of reason or need for expressing sentiment and what better way than to have an outlet such as this forum to express it?
As a pitcher you can be on the top of the world on one outing and then at the bottom of the heap the next. A pitcher who goes 5-10 would not be considered a top flight player but a hitter that goes 5-10 and can field his position is considered a stud. I think a position player gets more opportunity to be measured on the long term performance which leads to less drastic swings in emotional response to immediate performance unlike a pitcher and that is why you see more posts regarding pitching when things are going well because it is for most pitchers a fleeting experience.
You know that is a really good question although I do not think the percentages are that high. It is also a difficult one to answer but I will give it a shot.
In talking about playing baseball in general I think overall the spotlight and the pressure is mostly centered around the bump. That is where the game begins. They set the pace for the game. At the younger ages everyone is in the game if the pitcher is throwing strikes, if he is not they tend to drift off and perform poorly when the opportunities come (Both the players when they get a chance to make a play and the Parents in how they respond to game situations.)
This always leads to a lot of emotions whether it be
Excitement,Frustration,Pride,Worry or whatever even sometimes all of those combined. This tends to lead to a lot of reason or need for expressing sentiment and what better way than to have an outlet such as this forum to express it?
As a pitcher you can be on the top of the world on one outing and then at the bottom of the heap the next. A pitcher who goes 5-10 would not be considered a top flight player but a hitter that goes 5-10 and can field his position is considered a stud. I think a position player gets more opportunity to be measured on the long term performance which leads to less drastic swings in emotional response to immediate performance unlike a pitcher and that is why you see more posts regarding pitching when things are going well because it is for most pitchers a fleeting experience.
Mine...RHP/1B, but has always been told he'll be a pitcher at the next level. HOWEVER, the schools that have shown interest, so far, are looking at him as a two-way player...
Catcher/OF.
I heard one D1 coach state that most of the players they recruit play up the middle in high school: C/P/SS/CF. They move them to the other positions in college - his veiw was the best atheletes usually play these positions in HS. Exceptions are generally big time hitters.
Not saying it is true across the board, just saying as the guy listed his position players/starters for the prior season and gave their hs positions, most were SSs in high school.
I heard one D1 coach state that most of the players they recruit play up the middle in high school: C/P/SS/CF. They move them to the other positions in college - his veiw was the best atheletes usually play these positions in HS. Exceptions are generally big time hitters.
Not saying it is true across the board, just saying as the guy listed his position players/starters for the prior season and gave their hs positions, most were SSs in high school.