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Anyone ever seen this?

D dave0mary10+ posts
Doing a HS game last year, the pitcher(RH) - with base runners or not - stood with both feet on the rubber, shoulders square to the plate, hand on ball in glove, took sign, paused, then stepped towards plate and delivered. No windup; and moved absolutely nothing except his head to look at 1st or 3rd, till he pulled ball out and threw as he stepped forward with his left foot. Can you picture it? Weird. NO ONE stole a base on him in the 3 innings he pitched. I think he had a runner on 1st twice and a runner on second once. I definetly can't think of any rule that he would be breaking. And - I think the runner on second had a cakewalk ... but again, he didn't go. I asked his coach after the game why he would do that; he said the kids dad taught him. Oh well.
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piaa_umppiaa_ump5,000+ posts
First off I can say that I have never seen this....it seems as if someone (DAD) has simplified the windup position and pitching motion to the very base elements....

In reading the NFHS rule 6-1 art 2 this simplified motion does not seem to violate any rule....

The reasoning for simplifing the motion escapes me unless it was to lessen his balk exposure.....in the long run the only thing I see is it is giving up the velocity advantage of a full windup...
D dave0mary10+ posts
... I am suprised no one has said "the coach must be a wimp". If I'm the coach ...
I see runners, if they are smart, getting an advantage with this pitcher. That day, no one did. I will likely see the kid this year as well - pretty sure he was a junior. BTW, I just remembered it was a summer game, so maybe it was a "try me coach". Another BTW: he threw hard, but high.
piaa_umppiaa_ump5,000+ posts
Maybe you are right...he might have been a strong armed kid who the coach?/dad wanted to see if he could pitch in a summer level game and thats the best position they could come up with....i wouldnt call a coach a wimp.....I see lots of converted position players becoming pitchers....so giving a kid a shot in a summer game could make sense...

yet, at the HS varsity level, any opposing coach who saw this would have his runners on base going all day long.....

As Dash and Jimmy state there is no advantage in using this stance to be gained and MUCH to be lost.....
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D dave0mary10+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy03:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Michael S. Taylor:
If you say it was summer ball then I assume OBR. If that is true then he can step and throw.[/QUOTE

I'm confused. From the OP: "Doing a HS game last year..."


Chicago area ball for HS's in the summer is the next spring's varsity. It was a HS team(s) playing their summer schedule. We have playoffs and all here. The only rule the coaches don't abide by is lineups, so they can rotate players in/out at will.

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