Apologies

TRhit, I tend to agree. Part of the great thing about this forum is the diversity of ideas, knowledge and thoughts. If we all have to agree it destroys part of its purpose. As long as people respect each others right to disagree and present other perspectives this is what its all about.

Sorry TRhit....Didn't mean to offend....

Kumbaya................

99% of posts are wrong according to 1%

BLUEDOG

Please do not apologize to me---I am not offended in the least by anything here

Come on Feb.22. The NCAA gurus should be forced to read the posts we have had to resort to because of their lovely new start date idea!!! THEY need to apologize!!!!

It must all be simply a case of bad Karma.

Wasn't Apollogize a 3 man spacecraft?

TRhit-

You're a real pri**.

Sorry

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Originally posted by Bee>:
please forgive the correction OS ...

no offense, but you seem to have your percentages backwords (I think)

So you are saying..........

I AM WRONG............LOL

What is this new thing--close the thread---??? these are adults who enter into discussion and debate---if the heat gets too much they can leave--


Bring back the Duels that Beenthere and I used to have--- nothing inflammatory but it did get heated but never offensive to either of us---and today we are what I consider good friends in the real world not the virtual world of cyberville

Sorry to intrude here gentlemen, but I have a score update... Apollonia 6 Talent 0

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Of late I have noticed posters making posts and stating what they believe and then when another poster questions them they apologize for fear that they have offended them

D A M N IT when you say something you believe in stand by it---if the other person is that sensitive then they need not be posting here or on any other site and this site is easier and more friendly than most


Just my thoughts----

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Actually good point, however I just apologized to someone, not for my opinion but that how it was stated may have been hurtful.

That's just called common courtesy and decency, IMO.

This has turned into an awesome thread. Everyone can just get it all out of their system. Go for it!

No need to apologize slugger.

Another apology----I say do not say it if you have to apologize for it !!!!

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Another apology----I say do not say it if you have to apologize for it !!!!

Always been one of decorum, and a opponent of Bullyism...........I choose to defer, even though I believe in my Ox comment subsequently deleted.

Point made.......move on !!

And how about all the "IMO"s and "IMHO"s?

First of all I have no power to delete posts

Secondly I need no forgiveness---never asked for not do I want it

That is precisely what I speaking about---

= EDITED:
TR THERE'S A REASON WHY WHEN YOU TRY AND TYPE THOSE KINDS OF WORDS IN A POST THAT THE AUTOMATIC TYPE EDITOR WON'T ALLOW YOU TO. PUTTING SPACES BETWEEN EACH LETTER INORDER TO SPELL THE WORD REGARDLESS OF THE RULE IS SIMPLY AN ATTEMPT BY YOU, TO BY-PASS THE RULES AND STANDARDS PUT IN PLACE BY THE OWNER OF THE SITE. AIN'T NO BIG SIN, BUT AIN'T ALLOWED EITHER. =

the torpedoes say that you are feeling and thinking ---ain't no big sin---


Lets bring the discussions back to reality not virtuality

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Originally posted by TRhit:
First of all I have no power to delete posts

I did.........no point or value

Is this topic open for discussion or argument?

I'm confused, help me here a bit.

I posted on another site about new people coming on as apologists right off the bat and procaliming themselves as "newbs" or "newbies". "Newb Here!" "Newb from Chicago new to site," "Newb has a question", etc etc. I hate those labels. It's OKAY to be new, and no need to set yourself up as a "newb" to be accepted.

I got flamed pretty hard for these feelings on the other site, so flame away if you must, but I just hate the words "newb" and "newbie" with a passion!!

Krak, It sounds like you're a raging anti-newbite!

On this site as in real life, there's many ways to express a thought. The challenge here is that you don't have facial expressions or tone of voice to help get your message across. That makes it more challenging to communicate.

I try my very best in reality and on the site to be completely honest, but not to offend or be rude. I just don't see any reason for that in real life or here. There are ways to get your point across without being obnoxious. The couple of times that I recognized I was rude (may very well be some I didn't realize), I quickly apologized to the person. My intent wasn't to be mean or rude. There's always a way to express something without arrogance, rudeness, or insensitivity. A little kindness goes a long way in the world - on the site or right where we live. Nothing wrong with apolozing - doesn't make you weak or weaken your position on something.

Another "cabin fever topic" from the North East! TRHit, there is more than one way to express yourself. What may be right for you may be wrong for another. It appears as if people in different parts of the country look at emotions and feelings differently. When traveling in the NE United States I found the people to be much more curt and appear less compassionate than those that live south of the Mason Dixon line. It's almost as if "yankees" have forgotten how to be nice. Southerners tend to over sugarcoat their point of view to avoid offending someone. Sometime I want to suggest my neighbors get to the point. Personally I appreciate the Midwesterners delivery that offers a portion of both. I think they know how to get to the point without purposely offending their audience. Personally I like proving people wrong without offending them. BUT if I do offend them in the process then so be it!
Fungo

My view is that, by and large, we are all guests in Julie's house.
Apologies can be part of common decency and respect.
They don't hurt at all, especially when they are appropriate.
Sometimes, we get ourselves into situations where we tend to lose perspective. The HSBBW benefits from the accumulation of those who come here with knowledge combined with those who come here with questions.
Between those there is plenty of room for confusion and misunderstanding. Many, many posts and threads, recently, are stark evidence.
Mistakes are made by everyone. Decency is to apologize when they are made.
We are guests here. I don't feel any of us, other than Julie, dictates the rules, especially when it comes to the benefit and decency from apologies.

lafmom is my poster child for the perfect poster!!
she says it best:

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I try my very best in reality and on the site to be completely honest, but not to offend or be rude. I just don't see any reason for that in real life or here. There are ways to get your point across without being obnoxious.

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Originally posted by Krakatoa:
I just hate the words "newb" and "newbie" with a passion!!

Helllooooo, Newban!

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these are adults who enter into discussion and debate---if the heat gets too much they can leave--

WRONG,..there are plenty of kids of all ages ( pre- highschool and highschool ) reading and contributing to this site.

Disagreements, different opinions,.. all welcome, but because of the youth, I believe we adults should at least remain civil.

And while on point of disagreements,...I couldn't disagree more with the below quote.

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if the other person is that sensitive then they need not be posting here or on any other site

Good grief.

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Originally posted by Fungo:
When traveling in the NE United States I found the people to be much more curt and appear less compassionate ........Southerners tend to over sugarcoat their point of view to avoid offending someone. ........ Midwesterners delivery that offers a portion of both.

Whats funny is our friends from the Left Coast are sitting in a fan back wicker, sipping on a chilled glass of Cabernet Sauvignon, wearing loafers, a pleated polo, and enjoying the HSBBW "battles from within".

What really bothers me is I like wicker chairs.....wine....and a nice polo My problem is the wicker is outside buried since Nov, the wine froze, and the polo.....haven't seen those for months .

rz1,
Sorry about that.

".....mmmmmmmmmALLRIGHT!!! I'll! do it"

Wow, wood, that's a lot of boots. Even Nancy would admit that.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Please do not apologize to me---

I'll bet TRhit hates grunge music too

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Originally posted by thats-a-balk!:
TRhit-

You're a real pri**.

Sorry

Darn, I was hoping for reaction to this one!

Woody, could you please bring all those boots back to my porch? It's about 45 below zero here and we really need them!

Not surprisingly, I agree with Fungo and several other very nice people above, and some quotes by lafmom and shortstopmom best sum up my thoughts on this topic:

"I try my very best in reality and on the site to be completely honest, but not to offend or be rude. I just don't see any reason for that in real life or here. There are ways to get your point across without being obnoxious. "

AND...

"...there are plenty of kids of all ages ( pre- highschool and highschool ) reading and contributing to this site.

Disagreements, different opinions,.. all welcome, but because of the youth, I believe we adults should at least remain civil."

Exactly right. Although I am the current house-mother and try to help the moderators enforce some positive standards of behavior, it definitely did not start with me. This website has been different from the beginning, with official Board Manners posted on the door. I think that is at least one big part of what makes this "house that Bob built" more enduring than many other sports-related websites.

One more quote from SSmom...

"And while on point of disagreements,...I couldn't disagree more with the below quote:
if the other person is that sensitive then they need not be posting here or on any other site "

Correct, according to the rules of this site, the blatantly insensitive stuff can be posted on another site, not here...

Julie

Fungo, I'll take a bit of that Southern charm any day of the week. I scratch my head wondering why some people think an apology is "weak". In my opinion, if you can't laugh a bit and admit your own fault and apologize when you are wrong you are too self-absorbed.

My family dates back to and has fought in the Revolutionary War. War of 1812. Civil War. World War II. Vietnam War. Tough men who settled the West with guns, booze, illegal prize-fights and a few lucky bucks they parlayed into a dream. Entrepreneurs every one of them.. including myself.. maybe not rich but fiercely independent Western men who could always find the time to say "sorry". Tip the hat to a lady. Laugh at a salty fish-tale. It's why I love the West because a lot of us have taken the best (and the worst) traits from the rest of you!

Man, this is one wobbly rock we're all spinning around on. And in the end, we all get dizzy and fall off. Me, I'm just hanging on hoping not to step on the people next to me.

I think the key here is that some posters are very argumentative.



And that doesn't always come across well via the typed word. Facial expressions add (or take away) a lot to a conversation.



If only everyone had some of this, maybe we wouldn't have so many problems.



Now, I'd like to apologize for saying I'm sorry...IMHO.