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I'm sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool
I didn't know
Love could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done


(I'm sorry) I'm sorry
(So sorry) So sorry
Please accept my apology
But love is blind
And I was to blind to see
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

I'm sorry, so sorry
Please accept my apology
But love was blind
And I was too blind to see
(Sorry)
Okay here's the score so far:

TRhit, 5 posts in two hours. Nothing since then.
5 posts that agree with TR
10 posts that disagree with TR
6 posts that appear to be sarcastic (probably disagree?)
5 posts that are neutral (or I have no idea what they said)
17 posts that are just goofy pictures that add very little to the discussion, however, are much more fun than the original discussion.

So in the end, what is determined here? I don't know.

And for that, I am truly sorry.
Of late I have noticed posters making posts and stating what they believe and then when another poster questions them they apologize for fear that they have offended them

I want to go on record that I do beleive in the above point that was made.

D A M N IT when you say something you believe in stand by it---if the other person is that sensitive then they need not be posting here or on any other site and this site is easier and more friendly than most
I want to also point out that I do not agree with the above statment.

I also apologize for any confusion that may have occured.

Biggerpapi, make that half and half for me on teh two part statment! crazy
thEH's replay of the Brenda Lee classic made me also think of this one by the Beatles:
quote:
Were so sorry uncle albert
Were so sorry if we caused you any pain
Were so sorry uncle albert
But theres no one left at home
And I believe Im gonna rain
Were so sorry but we havent heard a thing all day
Were so sorry uncle albert
But if anything should happen well be sure to give a ring

Were so sorry uncle albert
But we havent done a bloody thing all day
Were so sorry uncle albert
But the kettles on the boil and were so easily called away...
From one of my favorite bands, Chicago:

"Everybody needs a little time away," I heard her say, "from each
other."
"Even lover's need a holiday far away from each other."
Hold me now.
It's hard for me to say I'm sorry.
I just want you to stay.

After all that we've been through,
I will make it up to you. I promise to.
And after all that's been said and done,
You're just the part of me I can't let go.

Couldn't stand to be kept away just for the day from your body.
Wouldn't wanna be swept away, far away from the one that I love.
Hold me now.
It's hard for me to say I'm sorry.
I just want you to know.
Hold me now.
I really want to tell you I'm sorry.
I could never let you go.

After all that we've been through,
I will make it up to you. I promise to.
And after all that's been said and done,
You're just the part of me I can't let go.

After all that we've been through,
I will make it up to you. I promise to.

You're gonna be the lucky one.
Bum,
I think my family missed the war of 1812. But they did manage the rest plus Korea, Iraq and fought for the Republic of Texas to boot. One of my ancestors went out and got drunk with Sam Houston after mustering out of the army of the republic. That was pretty good of him considering some blamed Houston for my ancestor spending a couple years in a prison in Mexico. BTW, my ancestors did a lot worse things than booze, guns and illegal prize-fights so I apologize. Smile
CADad
Interesting thread indeed (sorry if others don't find it interesting) ... but it made me remember something one of my (many) therapists said years ago ...

YOU MAY NOT HAVE MEANT TO STEP ON MY TOE BUT IT HURT NONETHELESS !!!

We all make mistakes in the way we state our opinions at times and if someone is offended by the way we have stated something, I believe an apology is indeed in order. I believe that a lot of people try to get others to accept their rudeness by saying they are just being honest, or frank, or whatever their choice of word is. [I used to work with someone like that, a guy who was always expecting everybody else to accept his rudeness because he was just being frank/honest/himself (pick the euphamism) and I hated it and finally expressed my opinion, in a kind and gentle way, of course.]

I do not believe we ever need to apologize for what we are feeling or for our opinions, but I do believe we need to be sensitive to others and not step on toes, intentionally or unintentionally.

JMHO FWIW
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Originally posted by PGStaff:
I Would like to take this time to apologize to everyone for everything I've ever done or said.

I Would also like to say I'm sorry for anything I might say or do in the future.

PG again you are a genius

This disclaimer should be attached to every new members first post or even easier be a checkbox on the "do you agree to these terms" page. As a result we would eliminate the need/desire to apologize til the end of time.

Julie is this possible? Big Grin
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CA Dad,

My "great-great-great.." fought in the War of 1812 and was there at Fort McHenry when Francis Scott Key wrote the Star-Spangled Banner. He was hit with a cannon ball, was disabled, and spent years appealling to the U.S. Government for a military pension of $4 a month. Not sure if he ever got it.
We've even got our own historical site in Pennsylvannia somewhere.. haven't seen it.. ruins of an old Tavern. Dad flew over Hiroshima a few days after they dropped the big one.

So we've done our part for freedom. To ensure American has the right to be a shallow, unapologetic pain-in-the-arss. Big Grin
Slugger ...

I am pretty sure I know what you are talking about ... pitcher's mom and all. Hardest times for me were/are when he is doing well on the mound and I want the coach to take him out before he flubs it. Worst time ... pitching a shut out in college with only 3 hits going into the 9th ... defense played their hearts out for him and made plays they might not normally have made. I was sitting at the top of the stands (this college had a canyon for a field with seats very steep into the hillside), hardly able to breathe. (I realize now it must have been all my lung problems and here I thought it was just momma nerves. )

TR ...

You are so right and I will never make the mistake of trying to joke with you again.
I guess this isnt consistent with the topic - but on the nervousness thing - I can honestly say I really dont feel it anymore - and never really did as a parent.

I had no idea how they were going to do in any given situation - didnt know if they would fail miserably or succeed greatly. I certainly hoped for the best - but never felt that feeling I felt as a player.

The days of butterflies ended when I stepped off the football/baseball fields and boxing ring. I just watch now - and have for quite some time - and hope they do well. If they dont - so be it - it was meant to be IMO.

I guess the only time - and it was every time - I felt nervous - (not really butterflies) but just scared - was when my younger son used to pitch against $400 metal rocket launchers.

I held my breath on every single pitch.

They shouldnt be allowed anywhere at anytime. IMO.
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Originally posted by OLDSLUGGER8:
Does anyone want to apologize for having that "feeling" everytime your kid steps in the batters box or takes the mound ????

You know what I am saying. The butterflies in the belly, the wish for GOOD, the slight increase in blood pressure...............the Excitement Cool


I don't apologize for those feelings either. I want to switch with someone who has a position player, I always thought it was a pitcher's parents thing. Smile
It's good to know I am not the only one.
Bum,
A granduncle was on the Bataan death march, an uncle was in a concentration camp here in the US and then went on to be one of the first to serve in Korea.

The one who was captured by Santa Anna's army was part of the black bean incident where the Mexican officers put about 18 black beans and 170 white beans in a gourd and made the prisoners draw them. Everyone who drew a black bean was shot. They were being merciful as Santa Anna had insisted that they all be killed. He was later a Texas Ranger and took part in genocide, but it was considered acceptable behavior at the time. He managed to have a couple wives at the same time. The first one, my ancestress, sued him and he won the case and got custody of the kids. I think he married his last wife right after the Civil War when he was in his 50s and had 8 or 9 more kids with her. I'm not sure but I believe he's mentioned in a book called great lovers of the old west.

Some might say that the ancestor from Alabama who scouted for the Union and got a pension did bad stuff.

Somewhere back there during the revolutionary war an ancestress had her house burned down after she was found to have gone to warn her husband's brigade about British troops in the area.

And if you want to go back far enough my ancestors founded Hallet's cove, which later became Astoria. Wonder how much it is worth today?

What does any of this have to do with baseball? Confused

OK, your turn. Smile But it would be hard to beat being there for the writing of the Star Spangled Banner.

BTW, I apologize for all this.
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Getting a little more serious there are times when apologies are appropriate even if you didn't intentionally say anything wrong.

When I was in my 20s I was kidding around with a friend of mine from work who is Black and said something like "You can't help the way you look." In my mind, I was kidding around and calling him ugly, which was OK because he certainly wasn't. His face took on a very angry look and I quickly realized what I had done. I pretended I didn't know what had happened and I never apologized. Well he was a better man than I, and we remained friends until I left the area for another job. To this day I regret not apologizing on the spot. If you're out there Jim Hardy, I'm sincerely sorry.
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by It's re: Clay/Ali:
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee ... Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see.

I was fortunate to catch a MOST EXCELLENT Costas interview of Angelo Dundee and Bert Sugar Sunday (co-authors of "A View from the Corner: A Life in Boxing")

totaly entertaining & I'll soon have the book
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quote:
Woody,

The full quote from Muhammad:

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see.


Woody,
I know you are from the 'burbs. If you would like to meet the gentleman who gave Ali the first line of that famous quote, go to Kyoto's in Crystal Lake. It is a Japanese steakhouse and the owner is a former Judo champ who trained Ali in Japan. He has a few great pictures on the wall by the bar and some great stories.

He may have been lying, but I would never argue with a former Judo champ, even at age 60. The man has a bull neck and looks capable of stopping an elephant with his bare hands. Plus he is very nice and I am a non violent kind of guy.

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