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Appeal question

RT Rob T5,000+ posts
Want to tell my kid how to handle this in the future...

Runners on 2nd and 3rd. My son is pitching. Batter hits a shot into the C/R gap.

Knowing the runners on base are going to score he watches the B/R to judge where he should set up to back up the throw in.

He watches the B/R miss 1st as he heads for second.

After he gets the ball back, he says to the FU that he wants to appeal that the runner missed 1st. He throws over and the base is tagged. The FU then signals safe and says, "That's not my call to make".

My son then turned to the PU and tried to begin the whole appeal again but was told, "You only get one chance to appeal, and you appealed to the wrong umpire."

The problem is then aren't the players being asked to know the mechanics that the crew is using on every play? In the future should he just ask who is responsible for a call before making the appeal?

In this situation should the FU have said that's not my call before ruling on the appeal?

Our HC went out discuss the call, and the PU confirmed that he saw the runner miss the bag, but since it wasn't appealed to him, the call stands.
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MU Mr Umpire100+ posts
Yeah, this was botched from the word go. With multiple runners on, it can be difficult to see all touches. But, not knowing whose responsibility it is in the first place is just wrong.

The only thing they got right is you can only appeal a runner's miss of a base once. You can appeal the same runner at other bases or multiple runners at the same base. But, you cannot appeal the same runner at the same base.

The only suggestion I can give is to ask whose responsibility it is to make the call. If they won't answer or look at each other like they don't know what to do, then you know you have a bad crew for appeal calls.
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D dash_riprock1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Mr Umpire:


The only thing they got right is you can only appeal a runner's miss of a base once. You can appeal the same runner at other bases or multiple runners at the same base. But, you cannot appeal the same runner at the same base.

Only one appeal was made (twice). It was improperly denied (twice). The umps got nothing right.
MU Mr Umpire100+ posts
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Originally posted by dash_riprock:
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Originally posted by Mr Umpire:


The only thing they got right is you can only appeal a runner's miss of a base once. You can appeal the same runner at other bases or multiple runners at the same base. But, you cannot appeal the same runner at the same base.

Only one appeal was made (twice). It was improperly denied (twice). The umps got nothing right.
No, if a team errs when making an appeal, they cannot appeal it again. According to this crew's messed up logic that the appeal must be made to the correct umpire to be valid, they were correct. They were correct that you only get one chance at an appeal.

But, we know they were not correct in the original attempt. PU should have made a ruling and not the BU if it is not his call. The first appeal was done correctly and the crew botched that.
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