Arizona State/Arizona Walk-On

You still have time, as a pitcher, I would not just go as a walk on as pitchers are in high demand and the schools certainly would do everything they can to get good pitching in under a scholarship. You should contact them and talk to them!

One of the schools has had a reputation of over recruiting and you will not want to take the chance of not being able to have a fair shot walking on.

ASU is down to 34 on their fall squad. Looks like they already did a number on the tryout guys. One of my friends is still there.

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E-mail them.
Here ya go.

http://arizonaathletics.com/baseball/coachbio.aspx?id=1464

http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/holliday_josh00.html

Wow, just checked ASU's roster and they cut (not on the roster) several very good players!

See the entry for October 31
ASU cuts

That will sure sober you up.

Some very good players. The next few months promise to be unreal.

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Those are BIG TIME players...

If you're going to walk on a high profile school...be aware...do your homework..understand the opportunity and the risk.

Like I said...welcome to the new world of college baseball. These guys will land just fine...but they will bump others elsewhere...

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Observer is right. Some of these have been BIG-time players! Two of these kids mentioned prominently in the blog...I know them and their families quite well. Good kids, great families!

One of them was well on his way to a terrific HS career before having TJ surgery before his junior HS season. Before his injury he was ranked by PG in the national top-50 to top-100 and was the area's sophomore-of-the-year in HS. He played in the HS All Amercian Game in Albuquerque following his senior season.

The other had probably one of the top-2 HS pitching careers in Northern California in recent memory. I think in 4 years of varsity baseball his teams won 2 section titles (the highest you can get in California) and this kid lost only 1 or 2 games in his WHOLE HS CAREER! He was probably something like 30-2. He played on both the US Youth National Team (16U) and Jr. National Team (18U). He was/is a stud!

Both of these players had multiple choices for college...multiple high-D1 choices including full-rides. These two boys lived the dream through HS and beyond...no one around here would have predicted they'd be on the street looking for a college to be "placed" at this point in time.

We often talk about "fit" around here. No matter who you are, how good you are right now and no matter how much you love the way you're talked too during recruiting, MAKE SURE its a school you really want to attend and understand how the program is conducted.

NOTHING is guaranteed and these two boys are living proof of all of that.

May I ask, where these walk on players or scholarship players?

Is the reason the are out because of high roster numbers?

The two that are discussed prominently in the blog are scholarship players I am 99% certain. They were both big-time recruits.

One of the "big time" players cut from the ASU roster had already played at a different D1. Does that mean he has to go D2 or NAIA for the spring?

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Is the reason the are out because of high roster numbers?

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The two that are discussed prominently in the blog are scholarship players I am 99% certain. They were both big-time recruits

the situation you describe doesn't fit the profile of a fall squad cut

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This was posted in another thread about the ASU program by someone who knows it well:

"I will simply state this: if you are going there to play baseball, and you think you will succeed in the program, you had better be one serious S.O.B. This is not a program that tolerates mediocrity. You can either play at an extremely high level, or they will recruit over you...period. The place is not for the faint at heart."

I am pretty pretty confident that is what happened with these players from Northern CA. Does not necessarily mean they "over recruit" in terms of numbers, or that you see the normal Fall cuts, it means that if it is perceived you cannot sustain at the level set in their coaches eyes, they will bring what is perceived as "better" talent and let you know you aren't going to play and, in effect, aren't really welcome.

thanks for the follow-up, I did see that in the blog but it wasn't clear if the writer had inside info, or was astounded that these players were gone & searching for a rationale

This might give you some insight into the expectations placed on the pitching staff:
In 2005, ASU did not compete well in the 3 game series at Stanford. On Sunday, the game, a 1pm start, was in the bottom of the 5th at 4:03pm, when we left.
The reason: In the bottom of the 1st, the starter walked the leadoff hitter...pitching change.
With 2 outs in the first, the reliever walked a hitter...pitching change.
If I remember right, there had been 7 pitching changes by the 5th, whenever someone gave up a walk.
And it isn't just that. The walk to the mound as a "preamble" to that change is torture. Most instant replays in the NFL are decided more quickly than the , and with a lot more smiles.
As I suffered those 3 hours, I wondered what pitcher could succeed. But lots want to try, I guess.

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As I suffered those 3 hours, I wondered what pitcher could succeed. But lots want to try, I guess.

so it's possible that the Cal guys told Murphy to take a hike

From what I could tell and what I know, that is one Coach who does all the "telling."

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what I could tell and what I know, that is one Coach who does all the "telling."

duh ... it took awhile, but the light bulb finaly went on

those guys were NOT the new recruiting coach's guys

in some cases that can be 1 strike against you

in others it could be the 2nd strike

in this case it could'a been the 1rst, 2nd, & 3rd strike

Wow, that's some story, nothing likeshowing a little confidance in your pitchers.

Then again if you worked with those you have instead of changing them, that helps. Heard it's that way at both schools.

Anyone every wonder why Turtle Thomas headed south?