at Metro Scout League Update....

Congratulations to you guys. Sound like an incredible opportunity for the young men participating.

Keep us posted if you unexpectedly get any player openings.

Best of luck to you in your inaugural season.

$650 looks pretty cheap now.

Many thanks to all that had a hand in this event!

Thanks for looking for another opportunity to showcase North Texas talent, and as always giving back to the great game of baseball.

Sounds like another mistake "I've" made by not signing my son up for this. Looks like ya'll have done a great job!

My list includes:
Paris JC, Navarro, OU, KSU, McLennan, Midland, Odessa, and Western Texas JC. University of Evansville, Wichita State,UL-Monroe and UL-Lafayette. SFASU, Ark State (Coach Lawler) and David Pierce from Rice. I may have duplicated some of Cades, but you get the idea...These are RSVP's..There will be others that will show up. They apparently did not go to RSVP school. These lists will be over the 5 week period, not just the first day....

Just received a RSVP from the Texas Rangers Scout for the 9th.

Great concept Cade.......

I assume this league is in efforts to bring "scouts" to our area players instead of our area players continuing the never ending travels in search for them?

You are correct Ken. Also we are saving them money. Normally a team will charge around $400-$500 to play in the fall. Then they will travel to 4 or 5 colleges. This would cost around $200-$300 (gas, food, maybe hotel) per trip for dad/mom and son to go.

Did you guys invite Hardin Simmons, ACU, and Angelo State? I think coaches Coleman, Bonneau, and Brooks would all be interested in watching MSL games.

Very true Cade..........

Also, I have to think if these players get the complete coverage and exposier this fall, maybe it will keep a roster together a little better for the summer teams.

What do you think?

Oh, and good to see catcher involved too.

Ken not sure I understand your question. Sorry DBU.edu

Randy,

It would be very hard to find a college coach within 800 miles that was not invited. DIII, DII, DI, JC, NAIA, and Ivy League schools. I have called or emailed at least 200 coaches. Sam and Shayne have also done a lot. So to answer your question yes they have. The response has been great but the % you don't want to know. But in defense of the % I invited schools from all up north knowing that they would probably not come but I figured it was worth a shot.

What I'm saying Cade is..........

Because so many schools and scouts will attend this event this fall and make contacts do you think this will keep kids from going in so many different directions in the summer?

Ken,

I am assuming you mean different direction by not going to all of the paid showcases. I think that has already slowed down. DBAT did not have the problems this year that we had when you coached. I think the parents are starting to trust the organization they play for more. On a small scale the Metro League has proven that you don’t need to travel the country to get exposure. Dallas is a great town to get as much exposure needed. In the last 2 days I have had good players call me from W. Falls, Longview, Tyler, Midland, Amarillo, Shreveport, and Galveston asking how they get into the league. These parents want to come to Dallas. It is the grass is greener theory……

I just looked over the scout league rosters. I thought there were only going to be 16 on a team????
now there are 20!
wish I had asked more questions now. If everyone plays equally I will be lucky to get 4-6 innings out of the double header each week. And with games lasting from 10 in the morning to 8:30 at night how many scouts are going to stay there 10 hours on a Sunday? Hope I get the early games!

2008 Prospect, you have a pm

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Originally posted by 2008Prospect:
I just looked over the scout league rosters. I thought there were only going to be 16 on a team????
now there are 20!
wish I had asked more questions now. If everyone plays equally I will be lucky to get 4-6 innings out of the double header each week. And with games lasting from 10 in the morning to 8:30 at night how many scouts are going to stay there 10 hours on a Sunday? Hope I get the early games!

I had the same concerns but I realized it took a lot to put this league together and in the end getting this kind of exposure should be worth it.

The rosters are set by position with 4 Pitcher Only players per team plus each team has several players that also want to pitch. 4 PO's X 3 innings = 12 innings, that leaves 2 innings for the non-PO pitchers. That is not a lot of innings to go around. However the other position players will get 7 plus innings a Sunday and 3 to 4 AB's, that works almost all the way around.

If Meat is still playing at a level that gets him invited back next year we will approach it differently. He would elect to be a PO.

If this thing works maybe they will add some teams and reduce the rosters....lots of maybe's but so far it looks like a good start. I am sure these guys will figure it out as well as listen to what the Scouts tell them they want to see.

Our problem was trying to please the HS Coach and get Meat the exposure he needs.

I have always preached that it is important for a player to play to help his HS team and get seen so he can go play at the next level. Meat should be able to help his HS team with the bat and pitch but most of the advise I am getting right now is focus on him being a pitcher.

The advise is starting to sink in...something about the words "learn his craft" come to mind. But being part of the team and helping his HS team win with him at first and swinging the bat still appeals to him and to me.

Focus on one position is a theme in this league, where will the player project in College is the question that needs to be answered.

2008 prospect,

i beleive there are 18-19 per team with 4 PO's per team. If you are not happy with how things were set up, please leave me a PM with your address on it and we will give you a full refund.

we have no problem with you checking other options.

It was nice to finally meet tychco today. catcher, it was good to see you again too...it's been a while.

The guys in the red shirts mentioned something called the High School Baseball Web -- what's that???



I left today's meeting excited about the league and its potential. I wonder how a few of the rules will impact game strategies, but it should be interesting and fun to watch --- and a great opportunity for the kids.

Catcher- I have no problem with this rule, but can you go in depth on it. The number of pitches per inning rule (20+ a batter). I thought I understood, but maybe for anyone who didn't. My main confusion was if the 20th pitch was to a new batter, would a pitcher finish that batter, then another one?

As soon as a pitcher gets to pitch number 20, he may face one more hitter after that, unless the side is retired. It will help with moving the games along.

Shoot me a call if this is not clear...

We want the pitchers to focus on 15 pitches an inning as a goal...

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
It was nice to finally meet tychco today. catcher, it was good to see you again too...it's been a while.

The guys in the red shirts mentioned something called the High School Baseball Web -- what's that???



I left today's meeting excited about the league and its potential. I wonder how a few of the rules will impact game strategies, but it should be interesting and fun to watch --- and a great opportunity for the kids.

PD,

It was great to FINALLY meet you in person...JE looks like he might be able to take you in a wrestling match .

The league sounds terrific, catcher...there was some great-looking talent at the meetings today.

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Originally posted by catcher:
As soon as a pitcher gets to pitch number 20, he may face one more hitter after that, unless the side is retired. It will help with moving the games along.

Shoot me a call if this is not clear...

We want the pitchers to focus on 15 pitches an inning as a goal...

Catcher,
My son has always been taught that 12 to 15 pitches an inning would be a good goal for pitch counts per inning.

If I read this correctly and after listening to the rules yesterday, it appears that 3 outs, 4 runs or 20 pitches (whichever comes first) ends that portion of the inning. Is that correct?

catcher- pm

A pitcher can "pitch around" trouble in an inning depending on his pitch count and runners in scoring position, bases empty, etc. For instance....runners on 2nd and 3rd....current batter brings pitcher to 20 pitches.....they're trying to win the games, right? Is there incentive to challenge the hitter -- especially if the pitcher has thrown well.....say, surrending 0 runs into his 3rd inning? Surrendering a walk is better than giving up a hit in this situation. No one benefits except those watching the scoreboard.

I understand the concept....this will avoid long innings. With the kids swinging wood, the 4-run rule will be invoked infrequently.

The first week of most HS fall programs, along with the MSL, take place during an NCAA baseball "quiet period". Although coaches can attend and watch games, they cannot make contact with recruits during the period 9/1 - 9/13, unless they occur on the school's campus. Good news for UTD coaches next Sunday.

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
The first week of most HS fall programs, along with the MSL, take place during an NCAA baseball "quiet period". Although coaches can attend and watch games, they cannot make contact with recruits during the period 9/1 - 9/13, unless they occur on the school's campus. Good news for UTD coaches next Sunday.

PD,
Correction...According to NCAA recruiting rules, the "Quiet Period" is defined as follows: "The college coach may not have any in-person contact with you or your parents off the college's campus. The coach may not watch you play or visit your high school during this period. You and your parents may visit a college campus during this time. A coach may write or telephone you or your parents during this time".

This first week will be a good opportunity to work out the kinks and for UTD to get a good look at these athletes.

Can someone explain to me UTD- Richardson and UTD? On the schedule, there are 2 different names.

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Originally posted by Dtiger:
Can someone explain to me UTD- Richardson and UTD? On the schedule, there are 2 different names.

DTiger,
You can get there from the following link. The campus is just east of Coit off of Campbell.

http://www.utdallas.edu/directions/

Good catch Shuttle -- I didn't read the rules thoroughly.

Shuttle- I get that, but are there 2 different UTD's or is one UD- University of Dallas?

There is only one University of Texas @ Dallas (UTD). I do not see the University of Dallas on the schedule.

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Originally posted by Dtiger:
Shuttle- I get that, but are there 2 different UTD's or is one UD- University of Dallas?

Dtiger,
If you would have spent your career as a Mustang instead of a Tiger you would have known there is only one UTD. Sam has many of his tryouts and games there.

It's never too late, eh Kyle?

I for one am thrilled that these three organizations have put their reputations on the line to promote our sons.

It looks like every attempt will be made to showcase each of these boy's skills over the 5 week period.

Ya'll are making my point...

On the first line (first set of games) it says
Location UT-Dallas Richardson

and then on the last (scheduled times) games it says
Location UT-Dallas.

My confusion was in the Richardson. I've had basketball camp at UTD for the past four years, I know where it is, AND that the mound is (was) HUGE! I thought maybe there was a mix up, or maybe the Richardson is meant to clarify.

Just so we are all on the same page...

The University of Texas at Dallas
800 West Campbell Road
Richardson, TX 75080-3021

So basically we're playing at UTD twice? That is what I should've asked in the first place.

YES

catcher, ya'll probably need to check the SAT scores and the clearinghouse registration from some of these guys before you take their money.