Can a player play D1 his freshman year, play JuCo his soph year to avoid sitting while transferring, and play D1 at his new school junior year? No circumstances, just curious.
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As far as I know, the answer is yes -- provided that the player graduates from the JUCO.
Does he have to graduate if he was a qualifier out of high school?
08,
I think you are correct, since he was a qualifier he may not have to get his AA, he does need to make acedemic progress toward his major, which is another thing to consider when transferring out of the JC.
I think you are correct, since he was a qualifier he may not have to get his AA, he does need to make acedemic progress toward his major, which is another thing to consider when transferring out of the JC.
The situation RJM is describing is a 4-2-4 transfer, which is covered in 14.5.6.
The player needs academic progress, a year elapsed since transferring from the first D1 before he is eligible to compete at the second D1, and he has to graduate from the JC.
See this thread for a more detailed account: http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616002781/m/9131077662/p/1
A player's status as a qualifier/non-qualifier comes into play in a 2-4 transfer.
The player needs academic progress, a year elapsed since transferring from the first D1 before he is eligible to compete at the second D1, and he has to graduate from the JC.
See this thread for a more detailed account: http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616002781/m/9131077662/p/1
A player's status as a qualifier/non-qualifier comes into play in a 2-4 transfer.
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quote:Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
The situation RJM is describing is a 4-2-4 transfer, which is covered in 14.5.6.
The player needs academic progress, a year elapsed since transferring from the first D1 before he is eligible to compete at the second D1, and he has to graduate from the JC.
See this thread for a more detailed account: http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616002781/m/9131077662/p/1
A player's status as a qualifier/non-qualifier comes into play in a 2-4 transfer.
I'm curious. How does one determine if they are a Qualifier/Non-qualifier?
quote:Originally posted by YoungGunDad:
I'm curious. How does one determine if they are a Qualifier/Non-qualifier?
NCAA Clearinghouse qualifier. Did he come out of HS with a Qualified rating from the NCAA Clearinghouse.
See Qualifier standards for a summary of the requirements.
3Fingered,
From what I have reviewed on this site, you seem to be the specialist with respect to the eligibility rules. Therefore, I'd like to pose a question....While I saw your response to RJM with the 4-2-4 answer with the JUCO scenario...If a player is in 4yr. NAIA program...what would hold true with him moving to an NCAA D1 opportunity. Is he then required to wait out a year due to a 4yr vs 4yr program or is it different because he would be moving from NAIA to NCAA?
From what I have reviewed on this site, you seem to be the specialist with respect to the eligibility rules. Therefore, I'd like to pose a question....While I saw your response to RJM with the 4-2-4 answer with the JUCO scenario...If a player is in 4yr. NAIA program...what would hold true with him moving to an NCAA D1 opportunity. Is he then required to wait out a year due to a 4yr vs 4yr program or is it different because he would be moving from NAIA to NCAA?
quote:Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
See Qualifier standards for a summary of the requirements.
Are all credits or class's from the 4yr school transferrable to the JC towards the AA degree.
quote:Originally posted by bbfan10:
Are all credits or class's from the 4yr school transferrable to the JC towards the AA degree.
My particular question/scenario does not involve a JC at all...it is more regarding the option if player takes a full 12 units at NAIA then has an offer to go to D1...Would he have to sit out a year?
Old Southpaw,
The D1 rules 4-4 transfer rules apply to a player who comes from any kind of 4 year school-- NCAA D1/D2/D3 or NAIA or a school with no affiliation to any sanctioning body.
So a NAIA to D1 transfer would need one academic year of residence at the D1 before being eligible to compete. There is one exception which might apply, given in Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10.1. If the player wasn't recruited to his first 4 year school, and hasn't received athletic aid from any 4 year school, then he may qualify for the one-time transfer exception. I think that is a very unusual situation, though.
The D1 rules 4-4 transfer rules apply to a player who comes from any kind of 4 year school-- NCAA D1/D2/D3 or NAIA or a school with no affiliation to any sanctioning body.
So a NAIA to D1 transfer would need one academic year of residence at the D1 before being eligible to compete. There is one exception which might apply, given in Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10.1. If the player wasn't recruited to his first 4 year school, and hasn't received athletic aid from any 4 year school, then he may qualify for the one-time transfer exception. I think that is a very unusual situation, though.
Here's another situation. My son was very accelerated in math and science and the school has no more classes to offer him for his junior year. He will need to take his junior year math/science as dual enrollment at a local college but he will still be officially in high school. The college does not allow dual enrollment for the next sequence of classes so he will be enrolled as a college freshman for his senior year of high school. When the year is over, he will graduate with his high school class and also have his freshman year of college completed.
The local college is D3 but my son has no intention of playing there, he wants to play for his high school as a senior. Will he be able to "transfer" to a different D1 college and play right away or will the trasnfer rule apply?
The local college is D3 but my son has no intention of playing there, he wants to play for his high school as a senior. Will he be able to "transfer" to a different D1 college and play right away or will the trasnfer rule apply?
There is an exception that if you did not receive financial assistance and were not recruited by the school then you can transfer and do not have to sit a year.
quote:Originally posted by Baller26:
There is an exception that if you did not receive financial assistance and were not recruited by the school then you can transfer and do not have to sit a year.
Baller26,
Read the post 2 above yours by 3FingeredGlove that explains the possible and unlikely not automatic, exception.
It isnt that much of a stretch really. A walk on that makes the team that wasn't recruited would be allowed to leave. I know a player that is in this exact situation. There is even more reason not to take a recruited walk on offer. And yes I did already discuss with the NCAA.
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3Fingered...if I may keep this ball rolling a bit more.
Say player actually finds out he was in fact a qualifier out of high school and might like to attend/play at say a D2 institution his second year instead of returning to the JUCO.
Do any of the classes he has taken during freshman year at a JUCO help/hurt him? How do they play into effect in any of this?
YGD,
D2 colleges treat JC transfers fairly leniently, provided they were a qualifier and didn't previously attend a 4 year institution. In that case, the following apply: (14.5.4.1)
(a) The student-athlete has attended the two-year college as a full-time student for at least one full-time semester or one full-time quarter (excluding summer sessions);
(b) The student-athlete has satisfactorily completed an average of at least 12-semester or 12-quarter hours of transferable credit acceptable toward any baccalaureate degree program at the certifying institution for each full-time academic term of attendance at the two-year college; and
(c) The student-athlete has presented a cumulative minimum grade-point average of 2.000 (see Bylaw 14.5.4.3.3.2).
For all other transfers (including 4-2-4 qualifiers) the player needs additionally to have attended the 2 year college for an academic year, or have graduated from the JC.
So the player needs to have taken on average 12 hours of transferrable courses per full time term, received at least a 2.0, and attended the JC for 1 year (or 1 term if he meets the terms of the paragraph above).
D2 colleges treat JC transfers fairly leniently, provided they were a qualifier and didn't previously attend a 4 year institution. In that case, the following apply: (14.5.4.1)
(a) The student-athlete has attended the two-year college as a full-time student for at least one full-time semester or one full-time quarter (excluding summer sessions);
(b) The student-athlete has satisfactorily completed an average of at least 12-semester or 12-quarter hours of transferable credit acceptable toward any baccalaureate degree program at the certifying institution for each full-time academic term of attendance at the two-year college; and
(c) The student-athlete has presented a cumulative minimum grade-point average of 2.000 (see Bylaw 14.5.4.3.3.2).
For all other transfers (including 4-2-4 qualifiers) the player needs additionally to have attended the 2 year college for an academic year, or have graduated from the JC.
So the player needs to have taken on average 12 hours of transferrable courses per full time term, received at least a 2.0, and attended the JC for 1 year (or 1 term if he meets the terms of the paragraph above).
3fg,
What are the rules around players transferring from a D1 to D2, D3, or NAIA?
What are the rules around players transferring from a D1 to D2, D3, or NAIA?