Ball going out of play

Move the runners 2 bases from TOT. Unless it was deemed to be intentional, such as he did it as he saw the ball coming to the gate, the ball went into DBT. The same as if it found a hole under the fence.

The defense had their shot at keeping the ball from going into DBT. Which is why I try to keep on them to keep the gates closed. But, you can't worry about it while a play is going on.

That would be my ruling. Luckily, I haven't had 1 do it yet. There is no rule I can think of to rule otherwise in OBR.

quote:

Originally posted by Mr Umpire:
Move the runners 2 bases from TOT. Unless it was deemed to be intentional, such as he did it as he saw the ball coming to the gate, the ball went into DBT. The same as if it found a hole under the fence.

The defense had their shot at keeping the ball from going into DBT. Which is why I try to keep on them to keep the gates closed. But, you can't worry about it while a play is going on.

That would be my ruling. Luckily, I haven't had 1 do it yet. There is no rule I can think of to rule otherwise in OBR.

Thanks, and that is my understanding of the rule as well. However, you do allow for some flexibility if he did it "intentionally" but does the rule state that? If not, that gets to the point of my original post -- if it was opened due to neglect or intention...doesn't either of those go to the responsibility of the team that did it...and would benefit from it? Thanks, again.

quote:

Originally posted by brookspw:
However, you do allow for some flexibility if he did it "intentionally" but does the rule state that? If not, that gets to the point of my original post -- if it was opened due to neglect or intention...doesn't either of those go to the responsibility of the team that did it...and would benefit from it? Thanks, again.

Well, if it is intentional, I then see it as INT by an offensive teammate. At that point, if there is a play on a runner, I have an out. If not, just "Time" and a warning. No runners advance.

Different rules apply when something is intentional vs. accidental in some cases, not all such as BI can be accidental. Same as if a helmet hits a thrown ball. If the helmet is just laying there (negligence), nothing to be called, play on unless there is a rule I am overlooking in OBR. If the on deck hitter throws his helmet at the ball, offensive INT by a teammate and someone is out or runners no longer advance with a warning at the least.