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MLB cleanses Colon?
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A colonoscopy reveals all!
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A colonoscopy reveals all!
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Did Colon get a web site going?
Apparently the testosterone suppliers work both sides of the Golden Gate Bridge.
Apparently the testosterone suppliers work both sides of the Golden Gate Bridge.
The article is somewhat misleading. Colon actually got caught with overdosing on donuts - he was just using the PEDs to wash them down.
Hopefully the MLB is not profiling central american players. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. 
Profiling? Do tell! With all the random testing programs in place and conducted by outside medical support staff. You can’t be serious...
FYI - Colon is not from Central America...
FYI - Colon is not from Central America...
quote:Hopefully the MLB is not profiling central american players.
I really dont think this is the issue at all!!!!
For some reason I found this to be hilarious.
quote:MLB cleanses Colon?
Hilarious!
Comments pretty funny.
Seriously, do you all think that it's just 2 guys who are using PEDS?
Seriously, do you all think that it's just 2 guys who are using PEDS?
If baseball was serious about testing, they would test 5 times a season and twice during playoffs for those still playing. Those that get caught with the current system are just unlucky.
I think they are profiling...how could they ever consider an overweight, don't give a hoot about anything pitcher, still throwing in the 90's, well into his 60's, a PED user?
Melky Cabrera suddenly is hitting way over his established head, and you couldn't find Colon in the stats a couple of years ago because the printer would run out of ink before it got to his name, and suddenly he's dominating again...
Dang profilers.
Melky Cabrera suddenly is hitting way over his established head, and you couldn't find Colon in the stats a couple of years ago because the printer would run out of ink before it got to his name, and suddenly he's dominating again...
Dang profilers.
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
Comments pretty funny.
Seriously, do you all think that it's just 2 guys who are using PEDS?
I think lots are still using and I think Bud Sekig should be fired. The Ryan Braun fiasco conveniently helped out the Milwaukee Brewers. Sure, lets go after all the aging Latino guys Bud
The idea seems to be to find lesser players while protecting the "so-called" stars.
They should test the coaches who throw batting practice everyday. 50 year old men throwing 500 balls a day?
Test them now for the good of the game!!
Test them now for the good of the game!!
I still wonder if it would be better if there was a legal, medical doctor supervised protocol for running steroidal substances. Risk would be very diminished (for safety), the game would get some of the benefits it enjoyed during the "steroid era," and we wouldn't feel like people are cheating.
It's not that we "feel" like athletes are cheating, ther ARE cheating! And they are abusing their bodies and decreasing their life expectancy. I do not want my son to be in a position where he feels a need to choose between potential financial riches to the detriment of his life and potential family!
It is still a dream he and others are chasing, let's encourage our athletes to utilize their work ethic and skills to advance in this game. Not chemistry!
It is still a dream he and others are chasing, let's encourage our athletes to utilize their work ethic and skills to advance in this game. Not chemistry!
A friend of ours is a bubble player. In AAA, in the bigs. Repeat.
Guys like him are the ones that are hurt when players cheat.
Guys like him are the ones that are hurt when players cheat.
And I thought the Oakland Athletics were so successful because of "Moneyball." Sabermetrics on roids!
I got an out of the box idea. MLB should set up a steroid pool and distribute them so that the teams with the lesser salaries get to use the most PEDs. Now that would level the playing field.
As far as Colon is concerned, he gets a pass. Wiki says he grew up in a house without electricity, running water or indoor plumbing. He should get credit for just figuring out how to be successful in America. Cheat your a$$ off.
Now you want to stop it. Forfeit every game a player participated in if found to be doping. That way the later in the season it is, the more unlikely PEDs are being used.That's 10 wins for Colon that go to the loss column. Drops them right into last place and out of the race for the wildcard. Ouch!
I got an out of the box idea. MLB should set up a steroid pool and distribute them so that the teams with the lesser salaries get to use the most PEDs. Now that would level the playing field.
As far as Colon is concerned, he gets a pass. Wiki says he grew up in a house without electricity, running water or indoor plumbing. He should get credit for just figuring out how to be successful in America. Cheat your a$$ off.
Now you want to stop it. Forfeit every game a player participated in if found to be doping. That way the later in the season it is, the more unlikely PEDs are being used.That's 10 wins for Colon that go to the loss column. Drops them right into last place and out of the race for the wildcard. Ouch!
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FYI - Colon is not from Central America...
So WHO'S actually profiling here?
PED = Performance Enhancing Donuts
quote:Originally posted by biggerpapi:quote:
FYI - Colon is not from Central America...
So WHO'S actually profiling here?
Not me, i was merely pointing out the inaccuracies of a post claiming the MLB was profiling. Took me 30 seconds to figure out (wiki) that he is from the Dominican Republic. Quite frankly, I thought the "profiling" comment was a bit... uneducated and childish. If he was in fact using PED's, his nationality should matter to no one, including me. Just my 2 cents.
quote:Originally posted by Doughnutman:
They should test the coaches who throw batting practice everyday. 50 year old men throwing 500 balls a day?
Test them now for the good of the game!!
Is this really a thing?
quote:Originally posted by biggerpapi:
PED = Performance Enhancing Donuts
I know some California Highway Patrolmen who should be tested.
quote:Originally posted by PA Dino:
Now you want to stop it. Forfeit every game a player participated in if found to be doping.
I like it! An elegantly simple way to stop teams from looking the other way when they see a player outgrow his hat and jersey between seasons.
quote:Originally posted by bballdad2016:quote:Originally posted by biggerpapi:quote:
FYI - Colon is not from Central America...
So WHO'S actually profiling here?
Not me, i was merely pointing out the inaccuracies of a post claiming the MLB was profiling. Took me 30 seconds to figure out (wiki) that he is from the Dominican Republic. Quite frankly, I thought the "profiling" comment was a bit... uneducated and childish. If he was in fact using PED's, his nationality should matter to no one, including me. Just my 2 cents.
Oh, I'm with you. My comment was directed elsewhere.
quote:quote:
Originally posted by PA Dino:
Now you want to stop it. Forfeit every game a player participated in if found to be doping.
I like it! An elegantly simple way to stop teams from looking the other way when they see a player outgrow his hat and jersey between seasons.
PADino & '15Dad,
I was thinking the same thing yesterday when I had some windshield time, and I heard the news. If a team has to forfeit every game, then they will have some skin in the game and take an interest if one of their players may be cheating. 50 games doesn't appear to be a big enough deterrent. There needs to be a "hammer of a punishment" on the first offense and a lifetime ban on the second offense IMHO.
Maybe after a player gets caught cheating the penalty should be - 1 full year unpaid suspension , 200,000 $ fine and drug test once a week during season . If you fail again , banned from the game .
quote:Originally posted by bballdad2016:quote:Originally posted by biggerpapi:quote:
FYI - Colon is not from Central America...
So WHO'S actually profiling here?
Not me, i was merely pointing out the inaccuracies of a post claiming the MLB was profiling. Took me 30 seconds to figure out (wiki) that he is from the Dominican Republic. Quite frankly, I thought the "profiling" comment was a bit... uneducated and childish. If he was in fact using PED's, his nationality should matter to no one, including me. Just my 2 cents.
Actually my comment was "tongue in cheek" because I truly believe at least 50% of MLB are using performance enhancer drugs of some type.
If you ban a player for lifetime, fine him $1,000,000, and strip any awards he received this would send a strong message to cheaters.
It would also level the playing field (pun intended) and allow those working hard to make it to the MLB a better chance.
1st offense - wear a neon 'cheater' sticker on your forehead for one season.
Maybe the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo could take care of that for him?
One potential issue with testing...
Some steroids, nandrolone being a main one because it is often found where it doesn't belong, stay in your system for a very long time. Michael Morse is someone I recall testing positive for the same nandrolone ingestion multiple times. There was a time when nandrolone was tainting different kinds of supplements just because it was hard to clean off of manufacturing equipment. Could issues like this muddy the waters when we insist on retesting? Do we care?
You should all check out Victor Conte's twitter. He is more insightful than anyone when it comes to drug testing and he speaks very frankly about it. You may think he's just a crook, but he's now a sought out consultant in the anti-doping field. He has stated that the MLB policy makes it very easy to take steroids if you know what you are doing.
One issue is the test:epitest ratio, the only thing they initially test urine for. Too high of a ratio of test:epitest indicates that there may be synthetic testosterone. Unfortunately, you can manipulate these ratios in a very short time frame (within a day) and there are many steroids that are undetectable within days...meaning that if you were to take steroids during a non-testing period, you'd be just fine. All this and I still don't believe MLB has a testing policy to address HGH -- it should be said, though, that there is some doubt as to exactly how much performance advantage is gained from HGH use in a healthy athlete.
Some steroids, nandrolone being a main one because it is often found where it doesn't belong, stay in your system for a very long time. Michael Morse is someone I recall testing positive for the same nandrolone ingestion multiple times. There was a time when nandrolone was tainting different kinds of supplements just because it was hard to clean off of manufacturing equipment. Could issues like this muddy the waters when we insist on retesting? Do we care?
You should all check out Victor Conte's twitter. He is more insightful than anyone when it comes to drug testing and he speaks very frankly about it. You may think he's just a crook, but he's now a sought out consultant in the anti-doping field. He has stated that the MLB policy makes it very easy to take steroids if you know what you are doing.
One issue is the test:epitest ratio, the only thing they initially test urine for. Too high of a ratio of test:epitest indicates that there may be synthetic testosterone. Unfortunately, you can manipulate these ratios in a very short time frame (within a day) and there are many steroids that are undetectable within days...meaning that if you were to take steroids during a non-testing period, you'd be just fine. All this and I still don't believe MLB has a testing policy to address HGH -- it should be said, though, that there is some doubt as to exactly how much performance advantage is gained from HGH use in a healthy athlete.
Another high profile suspension coming soon I'm hearing through the grapevine. It will make all too much sense considering this player's late career resurgence. Here's hoping my source is wrong.
Are these suspensions good for the game?
Are these suspensions good for the game?