what are average and good bat speeds for a high school player. Thanks
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Tiger;
why do you ask the question?
Bob Williams
why do you ask the question?
Bob Williams
I was just wondering how my 8 year old son compares to High School players, yesterday we were in a sporting good store that had a bat radar and it measured his swing at 52 mph using a 33 inch bat that was a minus 3 high school bat. We knew the 20 year old that worked in the store and using the same bat he could swing it at 64 mph.Hope that answers your question Bob. CT
cullmantiger
You have to be kidding!!!!
Comparing an 8 yr to a HS player
Let the boy be a boy and enjoy the sport before you put him in the pressure cooker
You have to be kidding!!!!
Comparing an 8 yr to a HS player
Let the boy be a boy and enjoy the sport before you put him in the pressure cooker
Who said anything about a pressure cooker, I didn't. But just so you know my son doesn't play travel ball, he doesn't practice and play from January to July, then take a break until September. He doesn't go to the local baseball academy to practice in the off season, he doesn't take part in a 18 week pitching camp.These are all things that parents have their kids his age do, Instead he plays park and rec and does just fine. Why is it everybody wants to read more into my post than is there. I took him to a sporting good store to get a new batting helmet since the old one didn't fit, while there he took a few swings with a bat, then I wondered what a high school kid could do.Do you need anything else?
Measuring bat speed IN A STORE! Wouldn't want to be in that store with kids (many not baseball players) swinging lumber at 100% effort.
Don't know about bat speeds but hit balls can travel up to 100 mph in HS
Can your son hit balls 350 feet? That will tell you how he compares with a pretty strong HS player? LOL
Don't know about bat speeds but hit balls can travel up to 100 mph in HS
Can your son hit balls 350 feet? That will tell you how he compares with a pretty strong HS player? LOL
God am I ever sorry I used the word compare, didn't realize it was some kind of buzzword for idiot on this board.
Your a new member so we will let the "nasty" comment slide. What will you get from this site? Alot of really good information. Learn and chat but don't go down a name calling road right off the bat.
The context of the word idiot was addressed to myself, in other words everybody else here seems to think I am an idiot for using the word compare w/ an 8 year old and a H.S. player. I didn't call anyone else a name and I w/o doubt used the wrong word in my previous post. Thank you
Would suggest you forget about bat speed for the time being and focus your training on developing bat quickness. Being able to swing a bat a 100 mph is meaningless if the barrel enters the hitting zone as the catcher is throwing the ball back to the pitcher 
Thank you for your response NYdad, I was just wondering what speed a high school kid can swing a baseball bat.I'm not too concerned with training my son right now, after all he is just 8. Sorry that I haven't stated myself clearer.
Agree allaboutbaseball.
I'm more mad about a store that measures bat speed except in the most protected of areas. One slip and a slugger could launch a heavy bat 150 feet at lethal speed.
Some benchmarks for HS:
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Throwing speed: 80 mph
Throwing distance: 250 feet
Hitting distance: 300+ feet
Max Bat speed (my guess): 90+ mph
60 yard sprint: 7-8 seconds
Take your son to see a HS game. Both of you will probably be very impressed by the quality of play.
I'm more mad about a store that measures bat speed except in the most protected of areas. One slip and a slugger could launch a heavy bat 150 feet at lethal speed.
Some benchmarks for HS:
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Throwing speed: 80 mph
Throwing distance: 250 feet
Hitting distance: 300+ feet
Max Bat speed (my guess): 90+ mph
60 yard sprint: 7-8 seconds
Take your son to see a HS game. Both of you will probably be very impressed by the quality of play.
quote:I was just wondering what speed a high school kid can swing a baseball bat
The answer to that question varies so greatly it's serves no purpose.
Good point about the store,
I take my son to 9th grade games,jv games, varsity games, jr collage, collage and AA games. I take every opportunity I can to show him good clean hard working H.S. kids.
I take my son to 9th grade games,jv games, varsity games, jr collage, collage and AA games. I take every opportunity I can to show him good clean hard working H.S. kids.
Cull, exposing him to quality baseball at all levels at such a young age is a good thing 
If I've offended anyone with my answers then I am sorry, if you look at some of the answers I got then maybe you can understand my feelings. I take great pains NOT to place my son in the pressure cooker at age 8.For someone to suggest that I have based on one question is unfair. And while he cannot hit a ball 350',I wouldn't think that would be a fair comparison either. He is what I would call a natural hitter, a 200' shot would not completely surprise me. But this 350' comparison was what another poster jokingly suggested.Finally, I certainly never in my mind got "nasty" towards another poster.
I did ask one simple question and I did get one answer to my original question and that is all I asked for. Thanks
I did ask one simple question and I did get one answer to my original question and that is all I asked for. Thanks
Cullman..what you'll soon realize is that some people on here take everything we say very seriously... I myself read what you said and took it as pure curiousity. There's nothing wrong with that and I would encourage you not to shy away from questions like the one you posted.. As for my answer to your question. I'm a high school senior and am signed to a D1 school and my bat speed is 94 according to one of the Perfect Game showcases I went to.
cullmantiger,
I think what you’ll find out after you’ve been hangin’ around a long as some of us have is, you’ll see how often idle curiosity, which is a great thing in and of itself, often turns into something much more involved.
I’m not saying you’d do this, but it happens more than you’d think where dad sees the 8YO with bat speed 30MPH slower than the average HS player, or throws the ball 30MPH slower then the average HS pitcher, an suddenly they lose all concept of what they’re looking at.
When that happens, often all of a sudden the dad starts trying to get the kid to that magic number by spending money on every video he can find, countless hours of PCs, getting on every bulletin board he can find, picking up every piece of equipment that will give the kid a 100% improvement, and generally, ruining his child’s time in the sun.
Unless they die or have some kind of unfortunate circumstance happen to them, kids will always get better as they grow older if they keep playing, so it isn’t fair to start comparing little kids to what are almost mature adults.
In short, curiosity is a good thing, overreacting is a very bad one.
I think what you’ll find out after you’ve been hangin’ around a long as some of us have is, you’ll see how often idle curiosity, which is a great thing in and of itself, often turns into something much more involved.
I’m not saying you’d do this, but it happens more than you’d think where dad sees the 8YO with bat speed 30MPH slower than the average HS player, or throws the ball 30MPH slower then the average HS pitcher, an suddenly they lose all concept of what they’re looking at.
When that happens, often all of a sudden the dad starts trying to get the kid to that magic number by spending money on every video he can find, countless hours of PCs, getting on every bulletin board he can find, picking up every piece of equipment that will give the kid a 100% improvement, and generally, ruining his child’s time in the sun.
Unless they die or have some kind of unfortunate circumstance happen to them, kids will always get better as they grow older if they keep playing, so it isn’t fair to start comparing little kids to what are almost mature adults.
In short, curiosity is a good thing, overreacting is a very bad one.
It's good and it got the cat!
It's pretty sad commentary when any dad feels he needs to apologize for allowing his kid to play too much baseball. Especially on a baseball site.
quote:Cullman..what you'll soon realize is that some people on here take everything we say very seriously
Maybe a little too seriously.
Welcome to the forum, Cullmantiger. Don't let 'em scare you off.
quote:Originally posted by SBK:
It's pretty sad commentary when any dad feels he needs to apologize for allowing his kid to play too much baseball. Especially on a baseball site.
Mebbe I’m misunderstanding your post, but I don’t remember anyone in any way chastising anyone else for simply playing baseball. But, I do believe parents can and do allow their kids to play too much baseball, and that its up to old coots like us to warn them that what they’re doing may not be in anyone’s best interest.
My post was simply trying to explain why some folks jump to conclusions when they see a post like the original one. It’s the same kind of thing as when someone asks about pitching velocities or anything else that requires the comparison of a kid to levels its impossible for him to hope to compete in as an equal.
TR’s 1st reaction was pretty close to what mine would have been if I’d seen the posts before him. Then in rapid succession came a bunch of posts and replies by cullmantiger, and in fairness, I know exactly how he felt being a new guy on a strange board and unfamiliar with much of what goes on here daily. The feeling is overwhelming!
It was just a bad question to ask on a site like this, that doesn’t deal a whole lot with prepubescent players. Its one that would be much more likely to not be attacked on a board like eteamz, or infosports where the main focus is on that level of play.
quote:Originally posted by cullmantiger:
Good point about the store,
I take my son to 9th grade games,jv games, varsity games, jr collage, collage and AA games. I take every opportunity I can to show him good clean hard working H.S. kids.
Anyone with a tiger in their name is always welcome on the HSBBW.
I am going to quote one of my fav websters "you learn alot by OBSERVING". Take your son to as many live games as you can and enjoy!
Hey Guys,
I offered an apology if I offended anybody in my responses, no other reason. Kartmart4 is closest to understanding the intent of my question. It may not be the best question for this board but the question was about High School players and not 8 year olds. I as much as anyone else here understands burning kids out,the town I live in is ranked in the latest top 50 H.S. poll I saw linked here on this site.I know what its like to have a son the same age as the very successful High School coach and see All the parents trying to impress him with their kids. I've seen the politics, unfairness and personalities involved in baseball for young kids.
I have chosen not to be involved with that part of baseball...to protect my kid.
I asked what I thought was a simple question, I'm sure some of my responses confused the intent, but if I misunderstood the purpose of this board then so be it and I can move along.
I offered an apology if I offended anybody in my responses, no other reason. Kartmart4 is closest to understanding the intent of my question. It may not be the best question for this board but the question was about High School players and not 8 year olds. I as much as anyone else here understands burning kids out,the town I live in is ranked in the latest top 50 H.S. poll I saw linked here on this site.I know what its like to have a son the same age as the very successful High School coach and see All the parents trying to impress him with their kids. I've seen the politics, unfairness and personalities involved in baseball for young kids.
I have chosen not to be involved with that part of baseball...to protect my kid.
I asked what I thought was a simple question, I'm sure some of my responses confused the intent, but if I misunderstood the purpose of this board then so be it and I can move along.
quote:Originally posted by KayMart4:
I'm a high school senior and am signed to a D1 school .....
Out of curiosity, if you don't mind telling, which D1?
cullman,
IMO - just a little advice.
You can ask whatever questions you want here. That is one of the great things about the HSBBWEB.
Some people will answer - some will write a novel - and some will post pictures of monkeys (like me). You get the drift?
You take the good - with the bad - and occasionally with the inane.
As long as you dont slander people - or talk bad about individual kids - its all pretty good.
Evaluate the advice - ignore the bad stuff - and enjoy the occasional pictures of the animals.
Its all good.
Welcome!
IMO - just a little advice.
You can ask whatever questions you want here. That is one of the great things about the HSBBWEB.
Some people will answer - some will write a novel - and some will post pictures of monkeys (like me). You get the drift?
You take the good - with the bad - and occasionally with the inane.
As long as you dont slander people - or talk bad about individual kids - its all pretty good.
Evaluate the advice - ignore the bad stuff - and enjoy the occasional pictures of the animals.
Its all good.
Welcome!
Kmart headed to Virginia Tech next year!
When I was new to this board, I joined in a discussion about American Idol TV show and it was implied that I was a bigot from the South. Is it a coincidence that the same person who is disrespecting you gave me the same treatment?
Nope.
It is not you, it is him.
Nope.
It is not you, it is him.
I always wondered why some posters get psychoanalized when they ask certain questions. If you know the answer to the question post it. If you don't, don't start hammering the person who asked the question.
I second the motion.
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Being a huge proponent of bat speed in being successful at the plate, I will lend this one man's opinion on how to measure whether the bat is moving fast enough....
No matter what age... no matter what level of play...
If the bat goes whoooosh when it's swung.... you're getting there....
Now maybe this thread should end, and we should get on to positive discourse....
cadDAD
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Being a huge proponent of bat speed in being successful at the plate, I will lend this one man's opinion on how to measure whether the bat is moving fast enough....
No matter what age... no matter what level of play...
If the bat goes whoooosh when it's swung.... you're getting there....
Now maybe this thread should end, and we should get on to positive discourse....
cadDAD
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quote:Originally posted by AcademyDad:
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Being a huge proponent of bat speed in being successful at the plate, I will lend this one man's opinion on how to measure whether the bat is moving fast enough....
No matter what age... no matter what level of play...
If the bat goes whoooosh when it's swung.... you're getting there.....
ACDad
You're right. If it goes whoosh crack or ping, you're there.
Tiger Paw got it right... I'm going to Virginia Tech next year.
Every once in a while, and it seems it usually happens to a new poster, they say the "wrong" thing and a very, very minority of posters jump on their case and accuse them of anything from, wearing their kid out to living vicariously through their kid. Often a couple of others jump aboard. The result is often the new poster goes underground and other posters are afraid to talk about their involvement with their kid.
The "wrong" thing is usually something along, "My kid is 9 years old and I have him on a travel team and throw batting practice to him every day", or something like that. Pretty soon you hear from people that 'you are wearing him out" and 'let him be a kid".
I'm not saying their may be some parents who get a little carried away but it hardly child abuse. However "too much" baseball is hard for some of us to comprehend. If anyone remembers the olden days, many of us played baseball from morning till night. When we got done, we'd watch games on tv or listen on the radio.
Today things are different. Most kids only play when there are organized games. I can't imagine only playing baseball a couple hours a day, a few days a week. If I were a kid today, I would be appreciative if I had a parent who created opportunities for me to play "too much" baseball. Even if this "too much" baseball of today is only half of what we used to play when we were kids.
With all the trouble kids are getting into nowadays and the many parents who don't give a darn, let's applaud the parents who are allowing their kids to get too much baseball.
Or if you can't do that,,,, at least don't chastise them for it.
PS Congrats to KayMart4
The "wrong" thing is usually something along, "My kid is 9 years old and I have him on a travel team and throw batting practice to him every day", or something like that. Pretty soon you hear from people that 'you are wearing him out" and 'let him be a kid".
I'm not saying their may be some parents who get a little carried away but it hardly child abuse. However "too much" baseball is hard for some of us to comprehend. If anyone remembers the olden days, many of us played baseball from morning till night. When we got done, we'd watch games on tv or listen on the radio.
Today things are different. Most kids only play when there are organized games. I can't imagine only playing baseball a couple hours a day, a few days a week. If I were a kid today, I would be appreciative if I had a parent who created opportunities for me to play "too much" baseball. Even if this "too much" baseball of today is only half of what we used to play when we were kids.
With all the trouble kids are getting into nowadays and the many parents who don't give a darn, let's applaud the parents who are allowing their kids to get too much baseball.
Or if you can't do that,,,, at least don't chastise them for it.
PS Congrats to KayMart4
quote:Originally posted by SBK:
I'm not saying their may be some parents who get a little carried away but it hardly child abuse. However "too much" baseball is hard for some of us to comprehend. If anyone remembers the olden days, many of us played baseball from morning till night. When we got done, we'd watch games on tv or listen on the radio.
Today things are different. Most kids only play when there are organized games. I can't imagine only playing baseball a couple hours a day, a few days a week. If I were a kid today, I would be appreciative if I had a parent who created opportunities for me to play "too much" baseball. Even if this "too much" baseball of today is only half of what we used to play when we were kids.
I’m one who remembers vividly playing from mornin’ ‘til night, then as you say watch or listen to games. But the secret word, and you mention it, is ORGANIZED ball. Us kids were the organizers, the umps, the players, the groundskeepers, and the fans, all rolled into one, and IMHO that’s what gave us the love for the game to want to be out there playing forever. Heck, I played ball for at least 5 years before I put on a uniform!
What kids play today is simply not the same. Here’s what I don’t get. Parents who get their kids in organized sports seem to do it because they don’t believe the kids would have a fun and a good time. Picture gramma and grampa telling mom and dad how they’ll have fun. Isn’t that why we all leave home?
Kaymart my man!!!
I must have missed it. Huge congrats on VT!
A very good friend of ours is Sean O'Brien - who has been a Hokie for a few years.
Best of luck and congrats again!!!
I must have missed it. Huge congrats on VT!
A very good friend of ours is Sean O'Brien - who has been a Hokie for a few years.
Best of luck and congrats again!!!
cullman, you ask a very reasonable question in a very reasonable way. I am amazed at many of the responses that I view as very unfriendly if not outright nasty. Most of the top high school players I have encounted and who I have seen measured have bat speeds in the mid 90s, some a little higher and some a little lower. I also think it is fine to compare your 8 year old son to these players. Sounds as if he is off to a great start.
I'm glad to see it was a future Hokie who provided a reasonable response.
By the way, great congratulations, KayMart4. I am a Hokie, Class of 1977. My wife is a Hokie, Class of 1980. The oldest of my three sons is a Hokie, Class of 2005 and an All Big East Academic selection as a scholarship baseball player. My daughter-in-law is a Hokie, Class of 2006 and a scholarship volleyball player. And, finally, my new grandson is wearing hardly anything but Hokie gear, even at three months of age. If I am very lucky, my youngest son, now a hs frosh will follow his brother as a Hokie baseballer. If you have questions about Virginia Tech or Blacksburg, send me a PM.
I'm glad to see it was a future Hokie who provided a reasonable response.
By the way, great congratulations, KayMart4. I am a Hokie, Class of 1977. My wife is a Hokie, Class of 1980. The oldest of my three sons is a Hokie, Class of 2005 and an All Big East Academic selection as a scholarship baseball player. My daughter-in-law is a Hokie, Class of 2006 and a scholarship volleyball player. And, finally, my new grandson is wearing hardly anything but Hokie gear, even at three months of age. If I am very lucky, my youngest son, now a hs frosh will follow his brother as a Hokie baseballer. If you have questions about Virginia Tech or Blacksburg, send me a PM.
Way to go KayMart4...that's great news...congratulations!
Look for our store opening next fall on the Virginia Tech campus.
Look for our store opening next fall on the Virginia Tech campus.