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Hi Jason,

The best place to begin with is the lower half of the body when trying to improve bat speed. There are some subtle movements that if performed correctly can make a huge difference in getting your son's core involved in his swing.

A while ago I wrote a piece with some videos to illustrate on Mantle. Might be worth a read if you're still on a mission to find out more about increasing bat speed.

Nate

Mantle Article
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Originally posted by Prime9:
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The best place to begin with is the lower half of the body when trying to improve bat speed


Agree 100%. All the comments have validity. IMO; nothing impacts power more than perfectly timed body rotation. Also agree with developing the forearms and learning how to use the top hand.


Hey, I like this guy Smile

It's best to work on large muscle groups as Prime9 states. There can always be the improvement of small muscle group, but the core and how it is engaged in the swing (through proper mechanics) will be your biggest bag for the buck, so to speak.

Nate
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Originally posted by jason145:
he is a contact hitter but wants to develop more power..His coach told him to increase batspeed


I have a feeling your coach is not talking about bulking up (although I'm not usually a mind reader Big Grin). Technique improvements will fix problems like throwing your hands or elbow disconnect issues. Gaining 10 pounds of muscle mass won't overcome these problems.
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Originally posted by patriots1980:
what kind of technique or ques do you use to fix problems like throw your hands and ecspecially elbow disconnect Sultan


"Keep your hands back" might help. Stop saying "hands to the ball", "don't drop your shoulder", etc. would likely help.

But, really, a couple of quick cues over the Internet is probably not the answer. He needs to buy into someone's rotational system and follow it.
It would definetly help. Cues are what it is all about. It is a simple question, what do you say if someone is becoming disconnected(elbow). What do you tell them to do with there hands?

The other problem is everybody is selling videos and telling you how not to do it and what not to say. But there is very little info about how to actually teach it. And we usually find this out after paying to much for someones ideas.
Hi Jason,

I'm a Dad that was a former Pan American gold medalist in judo when I was much younger. ; ) I have a 12 yo that really likes to play ball and moreover loves to hit. The one thing I loved the most back in my judo days was to "train". The highest level of ball I played was LL. With all that said, I was on a quest to improve my sons bat speed, so I did tons of research.

I am not big on folklore like "Mickey Mantle used to use a sledgehammer to crush rocks to get stronger/batspeed." Hey if they measured Mickey's mph before and after the training, I would totally be into it. I am sure it helped him, but nothing scientific to back it up, just makes it a nice story imho..

Back in the 70's Eastern block countries (mainly Russia) had huge atheletic budgets(miilions of $$$) targeted specifically at getting atheletes to peak performance wise. Out of this era came plyometrics and overload/underload training. With Over - Under training you use a bat that is light, your game bat and a bat that is heavy. The differences in weight are crucial, how all the bats are balanced is crucial, the amount of reps is crucial. It's all very scientific, but who cares, it works!

Ok, it's getting pretty long winded here. let me say this. My son and I have been using overload/underload training for little over a year now...with excellent results.

You will need a bat speed radar $79 and a specialed overload underload bat designed by (now my good friend) Jon Davis. Here's his website. Increase Bat Speed

Don't try to fake this with bat donuts and a bunch of different bats. Jon has developed exactly what you will need, don't cheap out and suffer the consequences. BTW Jon Davis is a super nice guy and will talk to you on the phone. I was a skeptic at first, so we spoke many times. ; )

The SKLZ over-under set up is a big joke, one size does NOT fit all.

You will need to buy a bat speed radar, then Jon will provide you with a very specialized overload/underload bat and several different work out regimes you can use. (in season - off season etc)

At the end of the day, you are basically taking dry swings with the 3 different weighted bats, 3 times a week. Takes about 20 - 30 minutes to do. You will have verifiable data with the bat speed meter that your bat speed is increasing. Use an excell spread sheet to track you progress. Identify, daily averages, weekley averages, highest mph swings and lowest mph swings. Very exciting stuff!

Make sure your mechanics are good before starting!
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