Possible stupid question of the day candidate:
At what point\date are the BBCOR's mandatory for select ball?
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If they play by NFHS rules it would be Jan 1 2012.. but each league/tournament might have a different implementation date.
I'm sure most if not all HS teams will start using the BBCOR bats this fall to get their teams used to swinging them, even if the BESR bats are permitted until Dec 31, 2011.
Not sure what all summer teams will be required to use, I'm sure coaches will have to do some inquiring before enrolling in some tournaments.
Not sure what all summer teams will be required to use, I'm sure coaches will have to do some inquiring before enrolling in some tournaments.
Perfect Game's BCS Championships are requiring the use of BBCOR bats this year.
BCS Finals to use BBCOR bats
BCS Finals to use BBCOR bats
[QUOTE]Originally posted by six2four2three:
Perfect Game's BCS Championships are requiring the use of BBCOR bats this year.
You know, PG does not want the liability, associated with BESR, at this point and time.
Perfect Game's BCS Championships are requiring the use of BBCOR bats this year.
You know, PG does not want the liability, associated with BESR, at this point and time.
Start swinging them as soon as possible, regardless of league rules. It will be a big sweet spot adjustment for everyone. If you've got holes, they'll be magnified. Plus, scouts/recruiters will only want to evaluate ability with BBCOR. Anything else will now be suspect.
Better yet, to get adjusted to the new bats, swing wood.
Better yet, to get adjusted to the new bats, swing wood.
So with the new bats is this a great time to be a pitcher? Looks to be alot of traffic at first these days with the reduction in extra base hits and likely increase in bunting. I guess my son better work on his pick-off moves!!!...and hope our catchers are on their games too!
quote:Originally posted by sayhey:
Start swinging them as soon as possible, regardless of league rules. It will be a big sweet spot adjustment for everyone. If you've got holes, they'll be magnified. Plus, scouts/recruiters will only want to evaluate ability with BBCOR. Anything else will now be suspect.
Better yet, to get adjusted to the new bats, swing wood.
Hold off as long as you can, use what you have now.
Bat manufacturers scrambled to develop and make available what is currently out there on the market, (sub-standard). The R&D departments of these same manufacturers have been working on getting more performance out of their products. The results of the new bats will be progressively better and will be out on the market mid-summer....wait at least until fall before buying if you can.
Use the wood.....
....thats what she said.
BBCOR bats are required this summer. All HS players will have to buy new bats before summer ball. New DeMarini Voodoo BBCOR bats began shipping April 15.
I think we have awhile...until 1 Jan 2012 I thought.
NFHS Rules-Compliant Bats Listed on the Internet
A searchable bat model link is made available by the Washington State University – Sports Science Laboratory (WSUSSL). The WSUSSL summarizes bats that have been submitted for and passed the Ball-Exit Speed Ratio (BESR) and Batted-Ball Coefficient of Restitution (BBCOR) certification tests for the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The certifications are intended to limit bat performance at or near the maximum performance limits of a wood bat, thereby minimizing additional risks and promoting the sound traditions of the sport.
The WSUSSL does not test bats specifically for the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS). Their results, however, provide an opportunity for interested parties to check if a particular bat is compliant with NFHS high school playing rules.
The NFHS has banned hollow composite bats unless they remain BESR-compliant after undergoing the Accelerated Break-In (ABI) protocol. The ABI is intended to confirm that as such bats break-in, their performance does not improve beyond the BESR ball exit speed limit. For the 2010-2011 academic school year, and through December 31, 2011, the following types of bats are legal:
1.Any aluminum BESR bat (listed as Barrel Classification A on the WSUSSL site),
2.Any aluminum barrel BESR bat (listed as Barrel Classification A on the WSUSSL site),
3.Any non-hollow (filled core) composite BESR bat (listed as Barrel Classification D
4.on the WSUSSL site),
5.Certain approved hollow composite BESR baseball bats (found on the NFHS website at http://www.nfhs.org/content.aspx?id=4155),
6.Any solid (one piece) wood or wood laminate bat (listed as Barrel Classification
7.B on the WSUSSL site),
8.Any aluminum or composite BBCOR bat (anticipated delivery timeframe to retail stores and online outlets late winter/early spring).
The WSUSSL list is located at http://www.mme.wsu.edu/~ssl/ce.../besr/certified.html. For bats that meet NFHS high school playing rules until December 31, 2011 and after January 1, 2012, go to the top row to search for your specific bat product that meets the NFHS high school bat rule. To show only the selected column limiting data, use the scroll boxes above to select and then use the Button to display only the selected data. Or select one of the column labels below to display all data sorted using that column. The WSUSSL is responsible for updating and maintaining the list. Other leagues or rules organizations may not require the ABI process or adopt the NFHS position on banning hollow composite bats.
NFHS Rules-Compliant Bats Listed on the Internet
A searchable bat model link is made available by the Washington State University – Sports Science Laboratory (WSUSSL). The WSUSSL summarizes bats that have been submitted for and passed the Ball-Exit Speed Ratio (BESR) and Batted-Ball Coefficient of Restitution (BBCOR) certification tests for the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The certifications are intended to limit bat performance at or near the maximum performance limits of a wood bat, thereby minimizing additional risks and promoting the sound traditions of the sport.
The WSUSSL does not test bats specifically for the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS). Their results, however, provide an opportunity for interested parties to check if a particular bat is compliant with NFHS high school playing rules.
The NFHS has banned hollow composite bats unless they remain BESR-compliant after undergoing the Accelerated Break-In (ABI) protocol. The ABI is intended to confirm that as such bats break-in, their performance does not improve beyond the BESR ball exit speed limit. For the 2010-2011 academic school year, and through December 31, 2011, the following types of bats are legal:
1.Any aluminum BESR bat (listed as Barrel Classification A on the WSUSSL site),
2.Any aluminum barrel BESR bat (listed as Barrel Classification A on the WSUSSL site),
3.Any non-hollow (filled core) composite BESR bat (listed as Barrel Classification D
4.on the WSUSSL site),
5.Certain approved hollow composite BESR baseball bats (found on the NFHS website at http://www.nfhs.org/content.aspx?id=4155),
6.Any solid (one piece) wood or wood laminate bat (listed as Barrel Classification
7.B on the WSUSSL site),
8.Any aluminum or composite BBCOR bat (anticipated delivery timeframe to retail stores and online outlets late winter/early spring).
The WSUSSL list is located at http://www.mme.wsu.edu/~ssl/ce.../besr/certified.html. For bats that meet NFHS high school playing rules until December 31, 2011 and after January 1, 2012, go to the top row to search for your specific bat product that meets the NFHS high school bat rule. To show only the selected column limiting data, use the scroll boxes above to select and then use the Button to display only the selected data. Or select one of the column labels below to display all data sorted using that column. The WSUSSL is responsible for updating and maintaining the list. Other leagues or rules organizations may not require the ABI process or adopt the NFHS position on banning hollow composite bats.
quote:Originally posted by Natural:
BBCOR bats are required this summer. All HS players will have to buy new bats before summer ball. New DeMarini Voodoo BBCOR bats began shipping April 15.
Got the new Voodoo for my HS team and I really like the feel of them. Did not like the Omaha's at all!
The date is Jan. 1st, so anyone using NHFS should abide by the January 1st date...does not mean they will. Each tourney could be different.
Natural sounds like a Demarini rep
quote:Originally posted by Natural:
BBCOR bats are required this summer. All HS players will have to buy new bats before summer ball. New DeMarini Voodoo BBCOR bats began shipping April 15.
Where is your information coming from...? 1/1/2012 is the official date that the BBCOR rule. Now I can not speak for individual leagues...
If you are playing in front of college coaches this summer and you want to be recruited you had better be swinging either BBCOR or wood.
And no, I am not a Demarini rep...just happen to know when their new bats ship. Easton coming out with new bats in September. Louisville Slugger is way behind - just ask University of Texas who had to switch to Demarinis this year because new TPX bats were slow in coming out.
And no, I am not a Demarini rep...just happen to know when their new bats ship. Easton coming out with new bats in September. Louisville Slugger is way behind - just ask University of Texas who had to switch to Demarinis this year because new TPX bats were slow in coming out.
Anyone used the Marucci?