Landstown and Kellam postponed after 1 inning with Kellam leading 3-0.
Nick Walker with a 3-run homer in the 1st inning for Kellam.
Game resumed on Wednesday.
Bball_lifer
The game does not resume. The game starts new 0-0. Thankfully it does not resume, because the stats are not counted, so the blast to left is negated and the first pitch swinging pop out to 1b by Landstowns 3 hitter with a man on 1b is taken out too. I think as several have mentioned, the lead off hitter for Landstown is the real deal. He looks like a leader. The other guys who you mentioned that are "pre season all beach" by VA preps is not very accurate. I guess its because they all went to many show cases during the summer/fall and made a healthy showing at them. If they perform so well during the showcases why cant they do the same against so called "less talented" players during a season where there is less pressure?
Only reason why I ask is because I'm not understanding how that works? Again, no slight on the kids, just not too sure because I look at many other teams in several districts and its the same, other than the kids who are under the eye or have signed.
Was at the Maury Granby game and Maury was losing 3-0 in the 2nd, anyone have the final?
The game does not resume. The game starts new 0-0. Thankfully it does not resume, because the stats are not counted, so the blast to left is negated and the first pitch swinging pop out to 1b by Landstowns 3 hitter with a man on 1b is taken out too. I think as several have mentioned, the lead off hitter for Landstown is the real deal. He looks like a leader. The other guys who you mentioned that are "pre season all beach" by VA preps is not very accurate. I guess its because they all went to many show cases during the summer/fall and made a healthy showing at them. If they perform so well during the showcases why cant they do the same against so called "less talented" players during a season where there is less pressure?
Only reason why I ask is because I'm not understanding how that works? Again, no slight on the kids, just not too sure because I look at many other teams in several districts and its the same, other than the kids who are under the eye or have signed.
Was at the Maury Granby game and Maury was losing 3-0 in the 2nd, anyone have the final?
quote:Originally posted by Larry Roundhouse:
Bball_lifer
The game does not resume. The game starts new 0-0. Thankfully it does not resume, because the stats are not counted, so the blast to left is negated and the first pitch swinging pop out to 1b by Landstowns 3 hitter with a man on 1b is taken out too. I think as several have mentioned, the lead off hitter for Landstown is the real deal. He looks like a leader. The other guys who you mentioned that are "pre season all beach" by VA preps is not very accurate. I guess its because they all went to many show cases during the summer/fall and made a healthy showing at them. If they perform so well during the showcases why cant they do the same against so called "less talented" players during a season where there is less pressure?
Only reason why I ask is because I'm not understanding how that works? Again, no slight on the kids, just not too sure because I look at many other teams in several districts and its the same, other than the kids who are under the eye or have signed.
Was at the Maury Granby game and Maury was losing 3-0 in the 2nd, anyone have the final?
as to all of this preseason hype i don't like i buy into , because people emerge almost every year to steal a couple spots. in regards to Faison , the leadoff hitter, he is responsible for being the spark to the team. Hinton, the 4 hitter is also having a decent season so far, and according to the pilot , went 3-6 the first game against tallwood with the 2 go ahead rbi's to win them the game. Ferrante on the other hand, has had a rough start but after one game, I think it is a little early to be on the kid's case this early in the season. Has been extremely jittery at the plate and hasn't been too smart with his selection which has led to a few bad at bats. But that's why the game is played on the field and not on paper, so we'll just have to see....
Hellosir,
I agree. I did not mean in any way to slam their 3 hitter in any way. He probably is legit, just weird how I have heard all of this stuff around the parents and I dont see the proof in the pudding? I enjoy Landstown games because I live close and dont want to get the impresion that I am dowing them in any way. I will be a true Landstown person next year. Just my opinion and I am probably way off because I am an outside observer. I will be knee deep into it next year as my friends son comes to this school, that is the only reason why I am a bit critical and should not be. I will keep on the record that their SS is the real deal. If he is a JR as I have been told and read, I can't wait to see him lead next year with Ruther, my friends son coming in. Their SS and him will be great leaders as well as positive work ethic as I have seen in their SS. I wish the team the best, but I will not go back on my work regarding their SS! I want to join their baseball team, do they have a booster club or website to join??
I agree. I did not mean in any way to slam their 3 hitter in any way. He probably is legit, just weird how I have heard all of this stuff around the parents and I dont see the proof in the pudding? I enjoy Landstown games because I live close and dont want to get the impresion that I am dowing them in any way. I will be a true Landstown person next year. Just my opinion and I am probably way off because I am an outside observer. I will be knee deep into it next year as my friends son comes to this school, that is the only reason why I am a bit critical and should not be. I will keep on the record that their SS is the real deal. If he is a JR as I have been told and read, I can't wait to see him lead next year with Ruther, my friends son coming in. Their SS and him will be great leaders as well as positive work ethic as I have seen in their SS. I wish the team the best, but I will not go back on my work regarding their SS! I want to join their baseball team, do they have a booster club or website to join??
If the 3 hitter for landstown is a short stocky Asian kid, he'll be fine at the end of the day. Seen the kid play many times last summer for mckinneys pirates. Kid can hit and will hit. The lefty p/of blankenship had great game at the plate against tallwood had a triple and a double with 3 or 4 RBI. Landstiwn ss is very good and probably one of if not the hardest working kid in the beach look forward to watching him at NSU! Anyway, It's waaaay to early for a thread like this guys lets get 5 or 6 games.
I'm not understanding something...the 3 hitter went 2 for 6 in game 1 and that's considered a slow start?!? Are you guys nuts?? Did any of you hit in the 3 hole?!?
The season is only 1 game old. Give the kid a break. He deserves to be there and can hit.
The season is only 1 game old. Give the kid a break. He deserves to be there and can hit.
quote:Originally posted by redbird5:
I'm not understanding something...the 3 hitter went 2 for 6 in game 1 and that's considered a slow start?!? Are you guys nuts?? Did any of you hit in the 3 hole?!?
The season is only 1 game old. Give the kid a break. He deserves to be there and can hit.
Amen!
quote:Originally posted by wgarlick:
rainoutsux
The Pre-Season teams have nothing to do with registration on the site. The team was selected from the 2011 All-District team, preview sheets returned by the Beach coaches, as well as info from scouts/Travel coaches.
Not every Beach coach returned a survey.
wgarlick,
Since I'm not registered on your site or have a need to be, how many kids on vapreps pre-season list for the beach are registered on the site?
quote:Originally posted by redbird5:
I'm not understanding something...the 3 hitter went 2 for 6 in game 1 and that's considered a slow start?!? Are you guys nuts?? Did any of you hit in the 3 hole?!?
The season is only 1 game old. Give the kid a break. He deserves to be there and can hit.
See Redbird, .333 and folks think that is bad/struggling. This is ridiculous after one game. That kid will probably hit in the .330-360 range for the season. Maybe a little higher since pitching is down this season (not as many standouts as last year.)
Now for worthwhile talk, Kellam vs Salem is Tuesday at Kellam I believe. Both lefties should be starting. Now that could be a good one to watch. Difference might be the middle infield. Think Kellam is better up the middle this year than Salem.
quote:Originally posted by rainoutsux:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by
Now for worthwhile talk, Kellam vs Salem is Tuesday at Kellam I believe. Both lefties should be starting. Now that could be a good one to watch. Difference might be the middle infield. Think Kellam is better up the middle this year than Salem.
I agree but will go further and say kellam is better defensively across the board. I think the key will be hitting and I think they are even in that categorie. You think Moynihan or Sinnen is going to pitch? Either one I think match up to statsky.
quote:Originally posted by rainoutsux:
wgarlick,
Since I'm not registered on your site or have a need to be, how many kids on vapreps pre-season list for the beach are registered on the site?
rainoutsux
I have no idea how many kids are registered on the site. Registration is done with the host site Yahoo.Com and is a financial transaction between the customer and Yahoo. I do not have access to that information; I only cover the Region for Virginiapreps.Com.
I did not send out emails to every parent stating if they want their son to be on a Pre-Season team then sign up for a subscription. Again, the selections were made from the 2011 All-District team, preview sheets returned by the Beach coaches, as well as info from scouts/Travel coaches.
Also, since you are not registered on the site or have a need to be, how are you such an expert on how the team was selected after I told you the criteria?
quote:Originally posted by wgarlick:quote:Originally posted by rainoutsux:
wgarlick,
Since I'm not registered on your site or have a need to be, how many kids on vapreps pre-season list for the beach are registered on the site?
rainoutsux
I have no idea how many kids are registered on the site. Registration is done with the host site Yahoo.Com and is a financial transaction between the customer and Yahoo. I do not have access to that information; I only cover the Region for Virginiapreps.Com.
I did not send out emails to every parent stating if they want their son to be on a Pre-Season team then sign up for a subscription. Again, the selections were made from the 2011 All-District team, preview sheets returned by the Beach coaches, as well as info from scouts/Travel coaches.
Also, since you are not registered on the site or have a need to be, how are you such an expert on how the team was selected after I told you the criteria?
I can hardly wait for the expert reply.quote:Originally posted by wgarlick:quote:Originally posted by rainoutsux:
wgarlick,
Since I'm not registered on your site or have a need to be, how many kids on vapreps pre-season list for the beach are registered on the site?
rainoutsux
I have no idea how many kids are registered on the site. Registration is done with the host site Yahoo.Com and is a financial transaction between the customer and Yahoo. I do not have access to that information; I only cover the Region for Virginiapreps.Com.
I did not send out emails to every parent stating if they want their son to be on a Pre-Season team then sign up for a subscription. Again, the selections were made from the 2011 All-District team, preview sheets returned by the Beach coaches, as well as info from scouts/Travel coaches.
Also, since you are not registered on the site or have a need to be, how are you such an expert on how the team was selected after I told you the criteria?
Sheesh wg..I asked a simple question and get the typical "how are you such an expert" reply? I can tell you I know most of the kids on the 2011 list. And since many were Seniors last year, I know that didn't help build the pre-season list to completion. You stated not every coach turns in a survey. You said scouts/travel coaches and I'm sure just like last year, their will be kids who don't play showcase ball over the summer or travel ball who will be on the list and are better ball players then some of the "pre-season" listed. My point in the beginning is I don't like "pre-season" lists composed of incomplete data associated with paid sites. I'll provide a good example where I do know a little. Your list has 3 OF's. Two are registered on prep site not sure of the 3rd. I am not familiar with the Cox player but do know the other two and have seen them play more than a couple times. Both are good players and Hinton is probably the better overall player. But neither is as good an athlete as the CF I saw play last year for Salem. And I believe he is a SR this year and being looked at by D1 schools. Incredible speed, above avg bat, glove, and arm. So how does a list miss a kid like that? Because it's made from incomplete data, that was my point. I no longer have the interest to entertain your replies unless you can provide how many kids on your list have paid profiles on the site.
quote:I no longer have the interest to entertain your replies unless you can provide how many kids on your list have paid profiles on the site.
Rainout, I do not believe that Virginiapreps has "paid profiles" on their site. Is it your position to blast the reporting of any list or coverage in the newspaper if the parent of that player happens to have subscribed to the newspaper? Folks on here are negative on the Pilot's lack of coverage. Yet, when another part of the press, an "e-paper," covers the sport and the players, it is derided also.
I do agree that the CF for Salem is a good player. Enjoyed watching him in the Beach tournament last year against Ocean Lakes.
Wgarlick, does Virginiapreps.com have "paid profiles?"
quote:Originally posted by WB Reporter:quote:I no longer have the interest to entertain your replies unless you can provide how many kids on your list have paid profiles on the site.
Rainout, I do not believe that Virginiapreps has "paid profiles" on their site. Is it your position to blast the reporting of any list or coverage in the newspaper if the parent of that player happens to have subscribed to the newspaper? Folks on here are negative on the Pilot's lack of coverage. Yet, when another part of the press, an "e-paper," covers the sport and the players, it is derided also.
I do agree that the CF for Salem is a good player. Enjoyed watching him in the Beach tournament last year against Ocean Lakes.
You make a good point WB. I just hate pre-season list for this stuff. You are very correct that the Pilot does a horrible job in most cases covering local hs baseball. Guess better to have something provided with best they can do with the information they have then being ignored totally by local paper.
And I don't disagree on the subject of preseason lists. As far as accolades are concerned, let the players earn them during the season for what they do, not for what they are expected to do based upon what they did last season. However, one benefit of preseason lists is it does get folks interested in particular games. For example, based upon the little I saw of the Beach last year and the considerable hype this year, I would love to bail out of work and go watch the Salem / Kellam game. Beach games are just way too early in the business day. (Yea, I know, no lights on the field.)
Rainout, I am very familiar with the players you have called out and both Hinton and the CF for Salem are very good players. You must remember that this is a preseason list and that and $2.25 will get you a cup of coffee somewhere. I do know and it has been verified by several scouts that Hinton is an exceptional athlete with verified (laser timed) sub 6.6 sixty times at various track conditions (Wet/loose) and a 3.88 Hm-1B from the right side with a 30 inch vertical, and has driven balls 380+ feet with a wood bat on MILB fields. Hinton has turned down a couple D1 offers as well as being is still being actively recruited by other D1 schools now. For a 210 lb 6'1" 17 year with that kind of speed and potential I would include him on a preseason list as well but to each his own.
quote:Originally posted by RedRaider87:
Rainout, I am very familiar with the players you have called out and both Hinton and the CF for Salem are very good players. You must remember that this is a preseason list and that and $2.25 will get you a cup of coffee somewhere. I do know and it has been verified by several scouts that Hinton is an exceptional athlete with verified (laser timed) sub 6.6 sixty times at various track conditions (Wet/loose) and a 3.88 Hm-1B from the right side with a 30 inch vertical, and has driven balls 380+ feet with a wood bat on MILB fields. Hinton has turned down a couple D1 offers as well as being is still being actively recruited by other D1 schools now. For a 210 lb 6'1" 17 year with that kind of speed and potential I would include him on a preseason list as well but to each his own.
Easy Red, I wasn't trying to call any kid out. I think both L's OF's are talented and said Hinton was the better of the two. Those are impressive stats and some outstanding detective work to have such specifics on a player. I can't provide anything to even compare the Salem kid. How do you even begin to know those kind of numbers. Would love to see the two of them head to head in some of those test. That would be fun. I hope Hinton signs with a great school and has Wright/Upton/etc type of success in the future. He's a great kid and he would be on my "pre-season" list too, if I believed in those things.
quote:Originally posted by WB Reporter:
And I don't disagree on the subject of preseason lists. As far as accolades are concerned, let the players earn them during the season for what they do, not for what they are expected to do based upon what they did last season. However, one benefit of preseason lists is it does get folks interested in particular games. For example, based upon the little I saw of the Beach last year and the considerable hype this year, I would love to bail out of work and go watch the Salem / Kellam game. Beach games are just way too early in the business day. (Yea, I know, no lights on the field.)
I am definitely finding a way to sneak out and catch some of that one. I hope both those lefties are starting!
I am definitely finding a way to sneak out and catch some of that one. I hope both those lefties are starting![/QUOTE]
No doubt! do they play twice this year or only once?
No doubt! do they play twice this year or only once?
quote:Originally posted by playright:
I am definitely finding a way to sneak out and catch some of that one. I hope both those lefties are starting!
No doubt! do they play twice this year or only once?[/QUOTE]
Hopefully they do, i will definitely be at both games. I've heard that the probable starters for the day are Moynihan vs. Stasky . A GREAT game should be ahead
They only play once, in the regular season anyway.
http://www.beachdistrictva.org...ient.cgi?G5genie=356
http://www.beachdistrictva.org...ient.cgi?G5genie=356
Guys,
I can stand it no longer. My son is on the Pre-season list, he is not a member of Virginia Preps, he went to a couple of local showcases this fall but did not play on any showcase teams. He was injured in the fall of his junior year so we didn't go out until this fall. The list is one man's view of the players he's seen and has some experience with in one way or another. There are other great players. Not every great player can play(or be on the list) at the same time. Some have to sit the bench but will get their turn. I know we all think our favorite player should be out there, but everyone sits on the bench now and then. My son works very hard at his game, hitting on his own after practice, taking batting lessons and meeting other players on weekends to hit or throw. I'm sure there are many other hard-working players out there. They do this to help the team do their best, not for recognition by anyone.
I can stand it no longer. My son is on the Pre-season list, he is not a member of Virginia Preps, he went to a couple of local showcases this fall but did not play on any showcase teams. He was injured in the fall of his junior year so we didn't go out until this fall. The list is one man's view of the players he's seen and has some experience with in one way or another. There are other great players. Not every great player can play(or be on the list) at the same time. Some have to sit the bench but will get their turn. I know we all think our favorite player should be out there, but everyone sits on the bench now and then. My son works very hard at his game, hitting on his own after practice, taking batting lessons and meeting other players on weekends to hit or throw. I'm sure there are many other hard-working players out there. They do this to help the team do their best, not for recognition by anyone.
Any scores from today in the beach district??? Who won the Kellam/Salem showdown???
quote:Originally posted by rainoutsux:quote:Originally posted by RedRaider87:
Rainout, I am very familiar with the players you have called out and both Hinton and the CF for Salem are very good players. You must remember that this is a preseason list and that and $2.25 will get you a cup of coffee somewhere. I do know and it has been verified by several scouts that Hinton is an exceptional athlete with verified (laser timed) sub 6.6 sixty times at various track conditions (Wet/loose) and a 3.88 Hm-1B from the right side with a 30 inch vertical, and has driven balls 380+ feet with a wood bat on MILB fields. Hinton has turned down a couple D1 offers as well as being is still being actively recruited by other D1 schools now. For a 210 lb 6'1" 17 year with that kind of speed and potential I would include him on a preseason list as well but to each his own.
Easy Red, I wasn't trying to call any kid out. I think both L's OF's are talented and said Hinton was the better of the two. Those are impressive stats and some outstanding detective work to have such specifics on a player. I can't provide anything to even compare the Salem kid. How do you even begin to know those kind of numbers. Would love to see the two of them head to head in some of those test. That would be fun. I hope Hinton signs with a great school and has Wright/Upton/etc type of success in the future. He's a great kid and he would be on my "pre-season" list too, if I believed in those things.
Rain,
I know some folks who pay their bills by knowing the specifics of High Potential Players and some of those numbers can be found online rather easily. Nothing like having some lively banter amongst followers of the game.
quote:Originally posted by Peter Franchise:
Any scores from today in the beach district??? Who won the Kellam/Salem showdown???
That will be in the Beach District - 'Week 2' thread. Nobody's posted it yet.
I understand that Diamond Stalker, I was merely trying to change the topic and lighten the mood a little bit. All the while, trying to find out some scores
quote:Originally posted by Peter Franchise:
I understand that Diamond Stalker, I was merely trying to change the topic and lighten the mood a little bit. All the while, trying to find out some scores
oh, and I thought that I was the only one that portrayed sarcasm with script.... never works for me neither.
rainoutsux
I cant tell you how many "paid profiles" we have because we do not have any. Rivals profiles do not cost anything.
The Salem coach did return a survey and listed Jamaal Windon and he indicated he was going to Potomac State and he hit .310. Jamaal even participated in the Best of the 757 event which I covered so if anything he should have been the outfielder.
I agree Windom is one of the best outfielders in the Beach but I felt Hinton was a better prospect so that was my decision.
The Preseason lists are created to generate discussion which this has. I agree with you that they mean absolutely nothing. We do these for the other sports just to get discussion going.
You said your point was about incomplete data but you end it with "paid profiles on the site". How do you know if Windom doesn't have a profile? He was a very good football player (DB) for one of the best teams in the Beach. Also what about Connor Statskey, Kurt Sinnen, and Mitch Moynihan? Is the only reason they made it is because of "paid profiles"?
I cant tell you how many "paid profiles" we have because we do not have any. Rivals profiles do not cost anything.
The Salem coach did return a survey and listed Jamaal Windon and he indicated he was going to Potomac State and he hit .310. Jamaal even participated in the Best of the 757 event which I covered so if anything he should have been the outfielder.
I agree Windom is one of the best outfielders in the Beach but I felt Hinton was a better prospect so that was my decision.
The Preseason lists are created to generate discussion which this has. I agree with you that they mean absolutely nothing. We do these for the other sports just to get discussion going.
You said your point was about incomplete data but you end it with "paid profiles on the site". How do you know if Windom doesn't have a profile? He was a very good football player (DB) for one of the best teams in the Beach. Also what about Connor Statskey, Kurt Sinnen, and Mitch Moynihan? Is the only reason they made it is because of "paid profiles"?
quote:Originally posted by WB Reporter:quote:I no longer have the interest to entertain your replies unless you can provide how many kids on your list have paid profiles on the site.
Rainout, I do not believe that Virginiapreps has "paid profiles" on their site. Is it your position to blast the reporting of any list or coverage in the newspaper if the parent of that player happens to have subscribed to the newspaper? Folks on here are negative on the Pilot's lack of coverage. Yet, when another part of the press, an "e-paper," covers the sport and the players, it is derided also.
I do agree that the CF for Salem is a good player. Enjoyed watching him in the Beach tournament last year against Ocean Lakes.
Wgarlick, does Virginiapreps.com have "paid profiles?"
Hello WBREPORTER
and you are right we do not have "paid profiles". Not sure what that is.quote:Originally posted by wgarlick:
rainoutsux
I cant tell you how many "paid profiles" we have because we do not have any. Rivals profiles do not cost anything.
The Salem coach did return a survey and listed Jamaal Windon and he indicated he was going to Potomac State and he hit .310. Jamaal even participated in the Best of the 757 event which I covered so if anything he should have been the outfielder.
I agree Windom is one of the best outfielders in the Beach but I felt Hinton was a better prospect so that was my decision.
The Preseason lists are created to generate discussion which this has. I agree with you that they mean absolutely nothing. We do these for the other sports just to get discussion going.
You said your point was about incomplete data but you end it with "paid profiles on the site". How do you know if Windom doesn't have a profile? He was a very good football player (DB) for one of the best teams in the Beach. Also what about Connor Statskey, Kurt Sinnen, and Mitch Moynihan? Is the only reason they made it is because of "paid profiles"?
You make a very valid point WG, what about those players? And I agree with Hinton as a top beach OF. Maybe one of those you mentioned should have been one of the three, we'll see after they play all year where everything falls out. And I was wrong with comparing paid for profiles with paid for access to all the site. I humbly admit my mistake. But it was still fun watching the attack from everyone, lol. And I still don't agree with or like pre-season lists.
quote:Originally posted by rainoutsux:
You make a very valid point WG, what about those players? And I agree with Hinton as a top beach OF. Maybe one of those you mentioned should have been one of the three, we'll see after they play all year where everything falls out. And I was wrong with comparing paid for profiles with paid for access to all the site. I humbly admit my mistake. But it was still fun watching the attack from everyone, lol. And I still don't agree with or like pre-season lists.
Yes the discussion started to get interesting, lol. I really liked the first post by bbmomofboys; the wrath of a mom. Seems she had enough and told us guys to chill out.
All this talk about Hinton has sparked my interest in seeing a Landstown game sooner than later. I try to see all 39 Region teams every year. Hope we didn’t put a magnifying glass on Hinton but I'm happy we are generating interest for ER baseball.